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Gamereactor Sweden Removes Ellie (TLOU) From Cover
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CharmingCharlie
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The only reason I could think of is that they might have feared a "negative" reaction to a young frightened girl being on the cover. I am not saying I agree with what they have done, I am just saying that media tend to be a bit skittish about children and how they are portrayed especially when there is a bloke there with an axe in his hand.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
A lot of people in this thread seem to think Ellen Page plays Ellie.
Those people: you're thinking of Beyond: Two Souls.
Those people: you're thinking of Beyond: Two Souls.
They changed her model a long time ago.
The were going for this but it got censored
9/10
Triggerhappytel
Member
I think you grossly overestimate how much voice actors get paid. Like, probably by about four thousand percent.
Ellie should be on the cover, but the developer & publisher have no say in cover art composition. That's 100% an Editorial decision and it's a little bit gross to seeing someone on the other side trying to direct what should and shouldn't be included.
It's no different than someone saying "You didn't mention this game feature we discussed in your preview." The answer is "You don't get to decide what I include in my preview."
Cover art is... art. It's subjective. My guess is whoever designed it felt the composition of the image was more striking/looked better with a lone Joel standing there.
orrrr maybe it's just sexist. *shrug*
It's no different than someone saying "You didn't mention this game feature we discussed in your preview." The answer is "You don't get to decide what I include in my preview."
Cover art is... art. It's subjective. My guess is whoever designed it felt the composition of the image was more striking/looked better with a lone Joel standing there.
orrrr maybe it's just sexist. *shrug*
T-they could be joking.....
TimeEffect
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Wait, Ellen Page plays both Ellie AND Jodie from Beyond: Two Souls??
Edit: Beaten.
Edit: Beaten.
SolidSnakex
Member
No, it's just a really tired and boring meme that some people can't let go.
Still looks a bit like Ellen Page. That was even the first thing my gf said about the game.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
It's actually a free magazine...
Chuck Norris
Banned
Even free magazines need circulation
EmCeeGramr
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Lazy Jones
Member
I´m outraged by this. I won´t be able to sleep tonight, I will just think of this horrible injustice.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Huh, weird. It's a good thing most serious gaming fans don't actually read that magazine, I guess.
I do think they have a say in as far as they can give the magazine several options that they can choose to use for their cover art. There is an implicit agreement that the magazine logo and text will be over-layered.
I don't know the terms of the agreement, but in regular copyright terms, just because you give someone permission to distribute you do not also give the permission to alter, and then distribute.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
The editor and head of design of Gamereactor is kind of a pompous asshole. I live in the same city and know of a lot of people who have crossed his path.
thesuperfunk
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I kind of like the doctored Gamereactor image ... I'm sure stuff like this goes on all the time anyways.
EdibleExplosives
Member
What the fuck?
Anyone got the original?
Anyone got the original?
zeopower6
Member
I think that Naughty Dog probably supplied them with the original art for the cover as an 'exclusive' but uh... they removed Ellie before publishing?
If the publisher is directly providing the art assets, does the magazine have the right to completely edit things out of it? Honest question, it just seems kind of disingenuous as the developer to provide a specific piece of artwork only to have one of the two characters on it completely removed, and (apparently) not even in a way where they just cropped the image or there was cover text or something. Seems almost misrepresentative of the game/art.
Isn't this copyright infringement, of the kind copyright was originally (before all this profiteering crap) designed to stop.
Altering the image in any way would be a derivative work and thus require separate approval from the rights holder. (no expert on Swedish law, but in most countries this is not okay)
Copyright is about preserving artistic/authorial intent, above all else. This clearly violates that.
Altering the image in any way would be a derivative work and thus require separate approval from the rights holder. (no expert on Swedish law, but in most countries this is not okay)
Copyright is about preserving artistic/authorial intent, above all else. This clearly violates that.
Fixed it.
ElectricBlue187
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I dun want no females in mah vidjahgames
PrintedCrayon
Banned
Why even bother doing something like this though. It was only ever going to cause some kind of issue.
Gamereactor can't honestly think Ellie is going to cause some negativity to the game. She's central to the whole experience!
Gamereactor can't honestly think Ellie is going to cause some negativity to the game. She's central to the whole experience!
Fudgepuppy
Banned
Petter Hegevall, who's in charge of graphical design, is a huge fan of the "Chin down, eyes up"-look. He puts the boxart from Crysis as the best boxart ever.
He tries to spin it by talking about composition and colours, but most of the times the stuff he likes are traditional minimalism or the typical action-covers, such as this.
He's gonna make a statement about how it looks better when Joels centered, because "That's how good covers look".
He tries to spin it by talking about composition and colours, but most of the times the stuff he likes are traditional minimalism or the typical action-covers, such as this.
He's gonna make a statement about how it looks better when Joels centered, because "That's how good covers look".
Oppo
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Fudgepuppy
Banned
They're actually from Östersund.
The Grim Heaper
Member
Killed me.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
http://www.gamereactor.se/blog/petter/556631/
They actually have users vote for what cover they want. He also claims he wouldn't be able to edit the picture from a technical standpoint and that they would sue their asses off if he did.
They actually have users vote for what cover they want. He also claims he wouldn't be able to edit the picture from a technical standpoint and that they would sue their asses off if he did.
PolarGamer
Member
Probably not keen on the kids and violence combo. I can respect that.
Shop request. The child soldier from Beyond: Two Souls + Ellie on the cover.
Shop request. The child soldier from Beyond: Two Souls + Ellie on the cover.
Deified Data
Banned
I'd personally reserve my judgement as far as sexism goes. Removing her is dumb, I agree, but they could be doing it because she's a kid. Not that her involvement in the game's storyline is a big secret...
There you go, uproar denied.
The Omega Man
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7.5/10
I laughed out loud. Well done sir.
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