Steelyuhas
Member
People defend it because it means the game gets monthly updates with new maps and modes at no extra cost. Charging for new maps and modes is a broken sustain model for a multiplayer game.
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Gears of War 4 has microtransactions for cosmetic loot crates
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People defend it because it means the game gets monthly updates with new maps and modes at no extra cost. Charging for new maps and modes is a broken sustain model for a multiplayer game.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Yo if character skins, OG COGS and Locust are tied to this the Coalition can eat a dick.
I understand why these models work, because idiots with more money than sense throw dollars at them. But if I have to put 1000s of hours into this game to get all the skins then I'm out.
I'm a grown man, I got shit to do.
Fuck it, if these updated consoles are real I think it may be high time to grow up and stop playing games. No point whining, but the direction were heading ain't for me.
I understand why these models work, because idiots with more money than sense throw dollars at them. But if I have to put 1000s of hours into this game to get all the skins then I'm out.
I'm a grown man, I got shit to do.
Fuck it, if these updated consoles are real I think it may be high time to grow up and stop playing games. No point whining, but the direction were heading ain't for me.
TheFurizzlyBear
Member
Isn't the counter that if it takes 1000s of hours to unlock the skins that it has way more skins than the previous Gears? Gears has always had long grinds for things in their games.
Reach Level 20 in the beta.
Coffee Dog
Banned
We have to make money back somehow, how else are we supposed to make up for the insane budget (we set for ourselves)?
rakkadakka
Member
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This is really the end of it, microtransactions pay for development of new maps that everyone can enjoy. As long as they don't give a competitive advantage then I have no issue with them if it means more, free, shit.
Oh so everyone should just use indie budgets for their games?
Things to do like playing games and going on the Internet to complain about games you don't want to play because you have things to do ...
breadtruck
Member
Nah, its cool. If someone wants to pay $3 for a Gnasher that has a lightning storm going on it, then whatever. I dont have a problem with the CSGO and Killing Floor 2 (or whatever other game may do it now) style of non-essential weapon skins and crate drops.
Paying for maps that divide a community? Then Ill agree with you. Dont do it, stop paying for it.
NullPointer
Member
Has it though?
Are the Gears maps really free? Seems like they are being rotated in and out and still sold.
Has Halo 5 seen a solid addition of Arena maps?
I mean, cosmetic DLC for free mulitplayer maps sounds great, but are things really working out that way?
Halo gets 2 maps a month plus a new gametype.
NullPointer
Member
Two maps and a new mode every month? Seriously? I haven't kept up with the game's post launch support but that sounds far too good to be true.
How many Arena maps have they added since launch? How many besides Forge or Forge remixes?
Edit: My Google fu is showing me four Arena maps since launch: Tyrant, Torque, Riptide and Overgrowth, along with other modes and Warzone maps. Damn impressive and seems to line up with or exceed expectations if they went with a premium map pack model. Sounds great and makes me more optimistic for what Gears could see down the road.
(source: Forbes contributor ;p because I couldn't find a master list on Halo Waypoint)
Goose_Se7en
Banned
Why is this disgusting? I think this is a good compromise as long as the microtransactions don't split the player base and/or give an unfair advantage to those players who choose to buy these card packs.
Nirolak makes a good point.
I love cosmetic microtransactions. Much much better than fracturing the community over maps. Speaking of, Splatoon handled map rotation pretty damn well IMO. Sure it rotated every three hours or so (I forget) but if gears has more than three maps in the pool it's fine, you get a whole new group of maps to play next. I think that's neat. Having the maps "on demand" is semi reasonable to ask, because previously you had to pay to play them at all.
IF the maps are good, and there's a large pool on tap each wave, it'll be rad. Can't you and your friends just play privately on the maps currently in rotation? If you REALLY like one specific one, is buying that *one* map for horde really that bad?
I actually really hate the point where every match of an fps is *that* really popular map. I like the idea of the whole pool rotating tbh, and it being free is rad, and paying for a pink Marcus fenix is fine.
IF the maps are good, and there's a large pool on tap each wave, it'll be rad. Can't you and your friends just play privately on the maps currently in rotation? If you REALLY like one specific one, is buying that *one* map for horde really that bad?
I actually really hate the point where every match of an fps is *that* really popular map. I like the idea of the whole pool rotating tbh, and it being free is rad, and paying for a pink Marcus fenix is fine.
Riptide and Ovegrowth are remixes(not Forge remixes/remakes). Torque remix is on the way, and probably Rig remix in June update.
Reason I like free maps is not only because they're free, but because you're not forced to buy content you don't need. For example, one Reach DLC had one 4v4 map, one BTB map and one Firefight map. I didn't play much of BTB or Firefight, so 2/3 of that DLC was worthless to me. On the other hand, Halo 4 had themed DLC, either only BTB maps or 4v4 maps. I didn't play BTB, so I had to wait 5 months until DLC that had maps I wanted.
Judgment also suffered from this, it had both Overrun and regular PvP maps in each map pack.
Maps SHOULD be free regardless.
Jasper Avenue
Member
Cool. As someone who doesn't have as much time, I actually enjoy purchasing packs/crates.
Lol it's really good. And they add a good amount of new weapons vehicles, armor, assassinations, stances, visor colors and other things. They have found a good model.
They are currently doing a firefight beta.
Also infection and 2 new maps this month.
No no see, buying random cosmetic DLC is engaging!
If game entertainment is mainly about owning a list of things instead of the actual process of playing them, I can't relate.
Is it unreasonable to say extra maps should require money from somewhere, because they take time and effort to create by people who need to pay for their livelihood?
Exploratory
Banned
If it keeps maps free I really don't care. I don't spend money on this type of stuff anyway.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Nah. But I've poured thousands of hours into Gears since 06. Having multiplayer skins has been a staple of the series since day one. If now, 10 years later the only way to realistically get the skins is microtransactions then that's wack.
Gun skins emblems and all that I don't care about.
Although they haven't specified if character models are included in this system so I should probably just wait and see.
And no. My enjoyment does not come from skins. I don't enjoy things that have always been free suddenly become accessible by paying only.
But like I said, ill wait for clarification first.
Same here. As long as it stays cosmetic.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
None of this is pay only, they specified you can earn in-game currency to buy
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
So like Gears 3 but with packs. As long as its cosmetic. I'm a-ok.
ManUnkindH
Member
That rotating maps stuff is one of the most idiotic idea I've heard in quite a long time.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Yeah not so pleased with that. Splatoon did a shitty map rotation system that made me stop playing, I'm worried this will too.