dr_rus
Member
RTSS you mean. Their UWP crap prevents this from happening I'm afraid. And I'm not so sure that this stutter would be even fixed with RTSS limiter.
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Gears of War: UE PC performance thread
- Thread starter icecold1983
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RTSS you mean. Their UWP crap prevents this from happening I'm afraid. And I'm not so sure that this stutter would be even fixed with RTSS limiter.
There isn't a standard to argue against or anything, so whatever, I'll shut up. A 970 is good enough for medium texture settings now in a game with muddy textures at its highest settings. I guess I should be happy.
Correct. My mistake.
dr_rus
Member
The difference between a 1080p framebuffer and a 4K framebuffer is about 150MBs. If a game is running fine in 1080p on 2GB chances are that it will fit into 2GBs in 4K as well.
SliChillax
Member
Just finished the game and my eyes hurt so much from all the stuttering. What a shit show.
Celcius
°Temp. member
I just realized that I actually wasn't running the highest settings all this time, I just put it on "high" overall and thought I was good 
I'm still wondering about the textures that took a while to load in though...
Downloading msi afterburner as I type this. I'll see how running textures at highest, high, and medium affects vram usage on my 3GB gtx 780 ti and report back with my findings.
I'm still wondering about the textures that took a while to load in though...
Downloading msi afterburner as I type this. I'll see how running textures at highest, high, and medium affects vram usage on my 3GB gtx 780 ti and report back with my findings.
SliChillax
Member
I thought afterburner didn't work on games from the W10 store?
Dictator93
Member
It can still read your statistics (like GPU utilisation or VRAM utilisation) but without the OSD. You have to alt tab out. It is monitoring the GPU there, not the game.
Celcius
°Temp. member
Ok guys, I have my results:
highest = 2976mb (vram maxed out)
high = 2925mb (vram maxed out)
medium = 2732mb
I think the textures failing to load in or taking a long time to load in was due to lack of vram. Strangely when vram is maxed out then the game doesn't stutter for me... I just see missing / slow loading textures sometimes as I'm going forward to new areas. With the textures on medium then they all appeared to load normally, but when I had them on high or highest then a van would have the "UE3 texture still loading" texture, and if I stood next to it and zoom in so that that's all that was on the screen then it would slowly load the correct texture. Then if I zoomed back out, spun around, and fire some bullets and then looked back, the "missing" texture would be back on the van.
edit:
Sometimes even on medium some textures take a while to load... maybe it's just UE3 being UE3
highest = 2976mb (vram maxed out)
high = 2925mb (vram maxed out)
medium = 2732mb
I think the textures failing to load in or taking a long time to load in was due to lack of vram. Strangely when vram is maxed out then the game doesn't stutter for me... I just see missing / slow loading textures sometimes as I'm going forward to new areas. With the textures on medium then they all appeared to load normally, but when I had them on high or highest then a van would have the "UE3 texture still loading" texture, and if I stood next to it and zoom in so that that's all that was on the screen then it would slowly load the correct texture. Then if I zoomed back out, spun around, and fire some bullets and then looked back, the "missing" texture would be back on the van.
edit:
Sometimes even on medium some textures take a while to load... maybe it's just UE3 being UE3
Pretty much everyone on PC is above average haha. Community is so different from consoles.
ya haha they take it very seirously...its insane.
edit: ya i think i am playing against either a team or people that have a lot of experience..point blank headshots, fast as shit, lol its amazing.
It's because of centre screen aiming in this game, it makes blind fire really really easy with a mouse.
Though I will stand by what I've said for the past decade i.e. the fast movement of Gears, which is majority of the game rather than actually aiming, is something that seems like it is more suited to an analogue stick than a keyboard. And this holds true even more for the later games that are even more movement based than Gears 1, although they never made it to PC.
icecold1983
Member
are you playing with a controller? because they wont be. if you are its no surprise youre getting crushed
TheChewyWaffles
Member
How can I determine FPS?
Celcius
°Temp. member
There's a built-in benchmark until "Extras" in the main menu
Triscuitable
Member
Learn popshotting with the gnasher and you'll find yourself surviving more battles and downing more players.
Basically, when you shoot, quickly aim and fire. That's all there is to it. Otherwise, remain unaimed so you can maintain mobility in gunfights.
Perhaps but you can actually do very well with a controller in Gears, depending on what your playstyle is...you could potentially even find yourself to be at an advantage over KB/m players.
SliChillax
Member
So what might be causing the game to stutter 90% of the time with a 6gb 980ti? Texture streaming? Game is installed on an ssd. I really don't get it.
have you turned off the framerate lock?
SliChillax
Member
Yes, game is unplayable with it.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
What does frame rate lock do? It isn't quite clear.
Dictator93
Member
Roadie Run gnasher spam seems like a sound GOW 1 controller strat.
I feel like one of the few people this fuck up actually works for. I can't play multi tho. have you got anything on your global settings that might be doing something? try putting power management mode on maximum performance if you havent already.
just makes everything go to shit as far as I can figure :/
BF4 on Ultra at 1440p on a 980Ti runs at 80+fps. That game has a much bigger amount of action going on while at the same time also having a superior level scale with more effects.
My 970 runs BF4 on Ultra (w/o deferred AA) at 80+fps at 1080p. So when a game like GoW UE with less overhead thanks to DX12 comes along that does less in terms of scale, things happening on screen etc. you would expect it to run at least as good. Instead while having every reason to perform better it runs much worse.
Compared to other demanding games that runs and looks better in all departments that are also using a slower API there really isn't anything that justifies the performance in GoW UE.
Lightmass probably adds a fair bit of memory overhead for the lighting too.
holygeesus
Banned
Isn't it locking to 30fps?
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
My benchmark.
Does this game on max settings use higher resolution textures than the Xbox One version, out of curiosity?
BF4 makes smart use of detail textures to hide lower-resolution assets. This game, otoh, looks like it's kinda balls-out high res textures all over the place? I think people would typically consider this an art direction thing, but it's a pretty good example of how inseparable art and tech are in spite of how we like to talk about them.
Only going by screens of Gears UE though, so my guess could be way off.
BF4 makes smart use of detail textures to hide lower-resolution assets. This game, otoh, looks like it's kinda balls-out high res textures all over the place? I think people would typically consider this an art direction thing, but it's a pretty good example of how inseparable art and tech are in spite of how we like to talk about them.
Only going by screens of Gears UE though, so my guess could be way off.
Visibly so.
holygeesus
Banned
My benchmark.
How are you running it with an unlocked framerate? Even turning off the frame limiter I still am v-synced to 60fps.
The game is only unlocked to the extent of your monitor's refresh rate.
Vsync is always on.
curiouscharles
Member
I haven't been able to try the single player yet, but MP runs at a near-constant 100fps on my 980ti and 4770k.
I tried SP before, but the stutter was pissing me off.
I've since turned off g-sync in my nvidia control panel though, which fixed any issues I had with this game.
Haven't tried SP again since though, but MP runs a dream.
I'm in disbelief at how much fun I'm having with this game!
I tried SP before, but the stutter was pissing me off.
I've since turned off g-sync in my nvidia control panel though, which fixed any issues I had with this game.
Haven't tried SP again since though, but MP runs a dream.
I'm in disbelief at how much fun I'm having with this game!
holygeesus
Banned
I see. So I'm hosed then if gaming on a TV? The stutter seems very random in this - sometimes it is when new areas are loading, sometimes when achievements pop and even sometimes when loading in new sound effects. Very odd.
abracadaver
Member
How do you take screenshots?
Sora the Cat
Member
Not everyone is a native english speaker.
holygeesus
Banned
Game DVR in the xbox app?
Yes the stutter can be pretty random. I toned down textures down to high from ultra and it no longer stutters when loading new assets. It seems like 4gb is not enough for the maximum texture setting in this game.
The performance/visuals ratio of this game is nothing to write home about. Some would even go as far as to say it's poor and I'm not certain I could come up with a quality counter argument. It does not offer anything impressive anno 2016 yet can drop below 60fps (yes, I know 60fps never comes for free) on top end cards.
I'm sorry Microsoft and The Coalition but this is not the kind of showing which will instill confidence in DX12 even though the API itself is not to blame.
At least there is Ashes of Singularity which is monstruously impressive graphics wise. Now that is a high-end PC game.
Triscuitable
Member
Non-native English speakers typically don't use contractions, in my experience. They're extremely confusing to people educated in other languages. Hence, an error like "shouldn't of" is typically something only a native English speaker (who wasn't properly educated on contractions) would make.
Irrelevant, but I'm just saying.
abracadaver
Member
No, I have that disabled
pantsattack
Member
Sorry to those of you that are having hard times playing this. However, I find the extremetech video with the game hitching and the music and gunshots having full reverb pretty humorous.
8-Bit Sunset
Banned
There has to be some kind of XBO emulation process happening in the back ground that we don't know about.
It is the only explanation I can think of that would demand some much"Ummmph" from higher end graphics cards!
As others have said it is a nice looking game but certainly doesn't seem that demanding from what I've seen. Even VR games require less demanding specs than this!
It is the only explanation I can think of that would demand some much"Ummmph" from higher end graphics cards!
As others have said it is a nice looking game but certainly doesn't seem that demanding from what I've seen. Even VR games require less demanding specs than this!
Like most games do you mean?
Dictator93
Member
Yes - medium would be xb1 textures apparently according to MS.