Gotdatmoney
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Naw fam, not until every Horizon copy is burned or traded in to never be bought again can I feel happy.
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Germany Top 20 - March 2017: Zelda BotW beats Horizon, Ghost Recon and Mass Effect
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Naw fam, not until every Horizon copy is burned or traded in to never be bought again can I feel happy.
Yes, since it tracks KH 1.5+2.5 this month (which released march 31st) and didn't track HZD last month (which launched March 1st). So, it tracks at least March 1st through March 31st.
Skittzo0413
Member
It's a Simpsons reference (I assume).
Anyway good for Zelda, I'm very interested in seeing the official worldwide numbers at the end of the month.
Being in second place in a sales chart doesn't necessarily mean you're competitive with the number one release in the sense that that poster who made the comparison meant it. If #1 sold one million, and #2 sold 100k, then no, #2 is not "competitive." Now I'm sure the two titles are close as of right now, but I'm just pointing out the flaw in this analogy and in using this kind of chart, with no numbers, to make such a comparison.
Hoho for breakfast
Member
Yeah I was like...what? I dont know why that game is so high on Amazon well before it even releases but I edited in the link in the last post. Maybe I'm just underestimating how well it's going to do, or maybe Amazon had a price error at some point? I don't know.
Yeah, we can use amazon.de for a rough ballpark, and HZD outsold Zelda Switch on there, so it stands to reason that the two are reasonably close together. Great results for both, as they both outsold ME:A and GR:W.
Seeing as MK8D is still generally charting first in the hourly sales chart on amazon.com at the full RRP, I think you simply underestimated it.
Edit: Here's a link for the German hourly chart: https://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/videogames
The same thing can be seen in practically all other amazon charts (except Japan, Italy and UK) and everywhere it is close to the top, so it definitely seems to be a beast.
What a weird turn this thread is making.... Don't you guys realize that both Horizon and Zelda achieved something great here? Germany loves Ubisoftgame and for them to both beat Wildlands is just fantastic. Don't forget that Germany also still got a healthy PC retail market, which should have helped Wildlands even more.
I'm sure both Nintendo and Sony are absolutely thrilled by those results.
I'm sure both Nintendo and Sony are absolutely thrilled by those results.
The Last One
Member
Yes, and we're talking basically about the only really good option for Switch owners, no competition at all. Good stuff, Guerrila.
There's your key to the ridiculousness. It's pretty sad.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is going to be a monster. The fact its out 2 months after launch is gonna propel it far more than MK8 vanilla. Also the platform its on doesnt suck ass.
It's one of the greatest games of all time tho so it surely helps. Otherwise Switch would be dead.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Wrong I played bomberman at a buddy's house. All you ppl with switches what's wrong with you buy this game
You think any company, athlete or whatever looks around and doesn't think the people in second place are a competitor? It's the 'strive to gain or win' that defines the competitor, (and even more so if they are a close threat), not actually winning. A company that can put out something like Horizon in their first crack at a much-used genre and slide into second place behind Zelda is absolutely worth watching, and almost certainly what both Sony and Nintendo consider a valid competitor in capturing people's imagination with open-world adventuring.
Both are amazing games, I don't really see the need to piss on anyone's achievements here. Horizon has the advantage of an install base 20+ times higher and BotW the advantage of a staff with years of experience in the genre and an established fanbase. Neither make them an automatic, easy success, games have flopped with all of those advantages in the past, both games represent success following years of hard work.
You say that but...
Salty Rice
Member
I always have to roll my eyes when i still see FIFA.
True words.
Well Horizon also released to a far greater active user base, so I think that's a wash.
Agreed. Slightly disappointing given the install base.
Wouldn't have helped it in this chart though, PC gaming is almost exclusively digital. Digital
hysical split should be somewhere around 90/10 or so.The selection in your average MediaMarkt/Saturn is way better than anything the US has to offer, but steam still stomps.
RichiRamjag
Member
Lol I wish triggered zelda fans would stop losing their minds when something positive is said about horizon.
This is how we got here, one user congratulated GG achievement, and we were off to the races.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Does this track digital sales as well, or physical only?
Unknown?
Member
One platform also has far, far more big games releasing at the same time with more on the way(Persona). Seriously both the games have been a big success. Why belittle one success?
Yeah, I don't really care.
I'm just laughing so hard because everyone got so sensitive from me pointing out a fact.
PeskyToaster
Member
GTA V what the hell
Dark Cloud
Member
I like how it's not "ok" to belittle Horizon when that never happened. That person brought up Horizon and Zelda, but it's ok to crap on the Switch and say Zelda only sold well because it's the only game. Then I guess someone can point out the big PS4 install base...
Btw TalentAlwaysWins was in BotW and Horizon topics while the games were launching. He or she was negative towards BotW and pretty positive in the Horizon topics.
Anyways no need to derail anymore. I'll leave it at that.
Btw TalentAlwaysWins was in BotW and Horizon topics while the games were launching. He or she was negative towards BotW and pretty positive in the Horizon topics.
Anyways no need to derail anymore. I'll leave it at that.
geordiemp
Member
I assume this is Physical only, and some titles will have a 30 % to 95 % possible digital amount, and some less so.
So the overall winner is hard to tell, could even be a PC title like Ghost recon or MEA with steam and Digital Ps4, which would be funny considering the Zelda vs Horizon discussions
So the overall winner is hard to tell, could even be a PC title like Ghost recon or MEA with steam and Digital Ps4, which would be funny considering the Zelda vs Horizon discussions
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Thread bouta be locked because of one small lil harmless statement my god. Stop being on go mode all the time.
Congrats to everything!!!
Congrats to everything!!!
Read his posts again. He said unless you come out on top you are not really in a competition, because someone else won.
He wasn't talking about numbers or sales, his only reasoning was that Horizon was second in the chart, therefore, it failed when compared to Zelda.
I really want to see the charts when RDR2 comes out.
Dieses Zelda! 😁
Unknown?
Member
Dude did you read his comment? He stated it being a jackass. You can say stuff the same thing several times and have different meanings every time. The guy who originally pointed out Horizon doing well never mentioned Zelda being a failure.
Saying something in second place doesn't sound like an achievement is an opinion not a fact.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Remember when people said Zelda games don't sell anymore lol.
Especially impressive considering the tiny Switch install base. What is it in Germany like 20:1 in favour of PS4?
Especially impressive considering the tiny Switch install base. What is it in Germany like 20:1 in favour of PS4?
Heckler456
Banned
Hehe, who do you think you're fooling exactly?
Sad result for ME:A. I hope this downturn results in them upping their game, instead of the entire Montreal arm of Bioware to either be relegated to support for the other studios, or axed entirely. Next month's results should be even more telling.
Well, as others have said, it's essentially the sole game people buy a Switch for. Wouldn't surprise me if the attach rate for that game is 90%+. On the other hand, Horizon sold 2.5 million copies on a 50 million userbase, so that's like a 5% attach rate.
Your analogy still doesn't work. You can be in second place and still not be competitive with first place in the sense that we usually mean it (and how the poster who originally used it in this thread obviously meant it). A baseball team who gets second place in the division was not competitive with the first place team if they ended the season 12 games back.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Germany knows what's up.
Dark Cloud
Member
He never mentioned Zelda? So what 20+ year franchise was he talking about? Lol
GregLombardi
Member
Well there is a difference between Zelda games, and almost unanimously the best Zelda game since Ocarina of Time or ever, and possibly one of the best games of all time.
Unknown?
Member
Edited to say not belittling Zelda. My God you guys are so defensive. Lol
well, one has a much larger install base.
Does anyone have numbers for Skyward Sword?
I'm pretty sure that one sold well too.
Fredrik
Member
Lol easy now, we've only seen talk about how Zelda fans gets pissed when there is talk about how great Horizon ZD is yet, we need to get to the other side of the argument too where Horizon fans gets pissed when there is talk about how great Zelda is too
Pro tip, just stay out of it and enjoy both games. Top 2 games this generation imo.
Dark Cloud
Member
It's no big deal. I'm just saying I've seen his/her post history and how he/she acts in the BotW topics compared to the Horizon topics. And I can understand someone seeing his/her comment as a slight to BotW. That's all I'm saying. Lol
Principate
Saint Titanfall
If you guys are really going to argue over the semantics about the word compete then think about this.
Zelda came first, it was the system seller of a new console even though it had a version on the Wii U.
It was pretty much the underdog because the PS4 had a much larger install base by millions.
The fact that Zelda came first meant that Horizon wasn't that competitive.
Are you really going to look back 20 years from now and say, "Remember when Horizon came second at launch in Germany? What a great achievement."
That's why it's so hilarious. That's being called a great achievement when Zelda was the underdog and came first.
Zelda came first, it was the system seller of a new console even though it had a version on the Wii U.
It was pretty much the underdog because the PS4 had a much larger install base by millions.
The fact that Zelda came first meant that Horizon wasn't that competitive.
Are you really going to look back 20 years from now and say, "Remember when Horizon came second at launch in Germany? What a great achievement."
That's why it's so hilarious. That's being called a great achievement when Zelda was the underdog and came first.