God of War isn't the kind of game where you're going to notice that you're doing better with a new version of a weapon that does slightly more damage or a set of armor that gives you a 5% damage resistance. You simply won't have any appreciation from that. However, your kid starting with a shitty bow and arrow or dagger and upgrading him to be a bigger aid to you will be a much greater impact. This is especially so since Kratos can still be Kratos.
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God of War details, in-depth RPG systems, No load screens, plus more
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God of War isn't the kind of game where you're going to notice that you're doing better with a new version of a weapon that does slightly more damage or a set of armor that gives you a 5% damage resistance. You simply won't have any appreciation from that. However, your kid starting with a shitty bow and arrow or dagger and upgrading him to be a bigger aid to you will be a much greater impact. This is especially so since Kratos can still be Kratos.
I can see the franchise going both ways, either continuing with Kratos or his son, and I'd be happy with both. More so with the former, though. I like the idea of the boy being there assisting Kratos throughout their entire journey, not just because he's his son, but for his presence, which for me, will ground Kratos to his humanity and kind of serve as his tether and prevent him from going back to just slaughtering gods and titans, and everything else around him.
Oh, that would be pretty cool and fitting. It could be similar to Far Cry 3 where he gets more tattoos and stuff, yeah. I would imagine specific upgrade paths, such as exploration and archery, as seen in the trailer. We get EXP for each of those paths, which we could then spend towards new tattoos, maybe? It would be more appropriate than just leveling up then choosing something he didn't have any experience with, like melee combat if he's never done that before.
Shit sounds dope. From the sound of it, I'm fairly certain now that the combat will have more depth than the previous games. I don't think it'll be flashier, because it's hard to top that classic God of War combo, but it just might have more depth.
Oh, that would be pretty cool and fitting. It could be similar to Far Cry 3 where he gets more tattoos and stuff, yeah. I would imagine specific upgrade paths, such as exploration and archery, as seen in the trailer. We get EXP for each of those paths, which we could then spend towards new tattoos, maybe? It would be more appropriate than just leveling up then choosing something he didn't have any experience with, like melee combat if he's never done that before.
Shit sounds dope. From the sound of it, I'm fairly certain now that the combat will have more depth than the previous games. I don't think it'll be flashier, because it's hard to top that classic God of War combo, but it just might have more depth.
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Why do you think he has lost his powers?
Corey Barlog still says that he is a god and that his son is a god [godlike being, possibly both being immortal]. Belief that power corrupts and that they will live forever pushes Kratos into action, into trying to educate kid to not be like him. To learn him to be better.
["You must be... better."]
Omegasquash
Member
I take the ending of GoW 3 to be him wanting to end the cycle of revenge and violence. He even says that his vengeance is complete.
Lots of reflection and time may have given him a new perspective on power and responsibility, along with a solid beard.
He still had his demi-god powers being the son of Zeus
but im talking abut his God powers...the one he got when Athena made him God of War at the end of the first game...remember he could grow huge, than zeus drained that with the blade of olympus
muyricosuave
Member
Am I the only one not in love? I already have a ton of third paerson RPG like games to play. But God of war was non stop adrenaline guy stuff such a fun guilty pleasure now I have to baby sit. Kratos is neutered caring for his son. The game is still violent I guess but the dynamic had changed completely.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Same here.
More_Badass
Member
Is it "babysitting" if the son can handle himself and is basically another weapon for you to use in combat?
Kratos will do no babysitting
his son is a god as well so he can handle himself as well
In the same way Joel "babysat" Ellie in TLOU as she busted some enemy in the head with a brick I suppose.
It's okay with me if you'd like to leave this style of game to those of us who are intrigued. There's more to life than "non stop adrenaline guy stuff", thank goodness.
If you think caring for another human being is boring, easy, or uninteresting I don't know what to say. It adds so much more depth to what has previously been rather shallow. At some point if you're not going to depart significantly from what you've already done then there's not much point in making another cookie-cutter sequel. I think it's a breath of fresh air and has the potential to be so much more than the series was.
0ptimusPayne
Member
There was never a dedicated "Ellie button" for her actions like there is for Kratos' son. I feel like The son will be an extension of combat combo moves that you'll be able do, as you progress and gain new abilities for both you and him. Excited for the potential
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thelastword
Banned
So you rather awful loadtimes like in Witcher 3? So you rather watch a static screen than play the game, btw puzzles, rafts and ladders have always been part of tps games, even fps like Halflife and halflife 2 had lots of puzzles, pushing boxes etc..yet the loading times were not as good. I really think you're trying to undermine some genuinely good tech here. The rafts and ladders you lugged weren't just there to mask, neither were the puzzles. So I wonder what you will say about Horizon Zero Dawn which has no loadtimes as well, I'm not seeing much in the way of raft pushing.
Lets be fair here, a lot of games suffer because of bad loadtimes. Witcher on consoles, Just Cause 3, Even Bloodborne would have been nigh on perfect if FROM used some of that loadtime techniology.
its better than having load screens in my opinion
Yeah, of course not having loading screens means we'll have puzzles like that. That makes total sense and is 100% logical.
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It's becoming a little annoying how closed some fans are to the idea of change. God of War has had six games already, all sticking to the same formula. Most were great, but it was getting stale. You can always replay the games if you want that same gameplay. I mean, after all, 3 was somewhat recently remastered, right? And no offense, but I think it's really foolish to not want any character development or gameplay changes. Yes, every new game in the franchise introduced some new things, but nothing really changed. Where's the fun in that? This one is a massive change, I know. That's why it's exciting, though. If it's really not to your liking, then just let it go. As for the character, there is absolutely nothing interesting with a one-note character who just does the same thing again and again and does not develop as a character in any sort of way. That's like being such a hard headed person not willing to grow up and learn things. It's just, well, being close minded.
Personally, I think it's really exciting that Kratos won't just be killing and killing and killing. I love the idea that he has a companion now, one he cares for and will assist him in their journey. That there will be much more to the game than just hacking and slashing and the occasional puzzle and collectible. Plus, gameplay-wise, it'll be really useful to have a context-based assist tool. Players who don't want the assist and insist on doing everything themselves because that's hardcore and whatever the fuck else, well, I'm sure you don't have to press Square.
makes you wonder what the reaction to the announcement of RE4 was and then when the game came out everyone loved it
Callibretto
Member
People shouldn't be down on ai partner in new gow. It could be really cool if done right. Kratos and Deimos vs Thanatos is one of the coolest boss battle in GoW series, and that is with psp hardware. Imagine if they expand on that with ps4 power
I absolutely agree that it's a breath of fresh air. I think it's brilliant. But you're not wrong. There's always a point in making cookie cutter sequels - people love them. Not to mention that sometimes people appreciate shallow escapism.
Ame
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It was to honor his brother who had a similar birthmark.
bigboss370
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dat craftsmanship
Shadowheart
Member
Maybe the three nail holes on the stem of the axe are to indicate upgrade levels? I like the idea of the indicators be on the weapon itself rather than on a HUD like how some games show bullet count on the weapon itself.
Some new (the third one, at least) information courtesy of Spanish website Level Up, via GameSpot:
That's the thing, though, the rage isn't because of the Olympians. It's an innate part of him. That was mentioned in an interview, I think, and how Kratos is trying to control that rage. Knowing when and where to unleash it. I think the Spartan Rage was a great way to display that. His rage was building up, and he (or rather, the players, as Kratos) chose when to unleash it.
Speaking of the Spartan Rage, I'm really curious as to how it works. Does it allow us to instantly finish off enemies when their health is at a certain level? But then, Kratos didn't finish the troll off. He dealt some massive damage then held him down for his son to finish it off.
- the game will be single-player only
- the game will run at 30 FPS
- this will not be Kratos' last game
That's the thing, though, the rage isn't because of the Olympians. It's an innate part of him. That was mentioned in an interview, I think, and how Kratos is trying to control that rage. Knowing when and where to unleash it. I think the Spartan Rage was a great way to display that. His rage was building up, and he (or rather, the players, as Kratos) chose when to unleash it.
Speaking of the Spartan Rage, I'm really curious as to how it works. Does it allow us to instantly finish off enemies when their health is at a certain level? But then, Kratos didn't finish the troll off. He dealt some massive damage then held him down for his son to finish it off.
dat craftsmanship
Oh! I never realized that the frost coated the axe like that. I really like that. Looks really good. I really think that yellow orb thing where the ice came from will be replaceable with different elements. They did talk about elements a bit. Go to Muspelheim, and maybe we'll get a fire orb-thing. Yeah. A flaming mjolnir-like axe. I like.
I'm pretty sure it's simply "God of War." No subtitle. I wouldn't want one either.
That would be pretty nice, and would work fine with the new logo (snake in place of omega symbol). But it's a AAA first-party game, it'll have a subtitle.
dat craftsmanship
This looks incredible...looks better than Uncharted 4 already with probably a year to go
Don't get me wrong, I adore Naughty Dog...but i always felt that Santa Monica seem like they were always one up when it came to graphics
I don't think it does. They both look as good as each other IMO
true..their both very close
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
I've never been excited for a God of War game, I'm all sorts of excited for this.
Sounds and looks like Dark Souls, TLoU and God of War all melded into one amazing one-shot experience.
Sign me up Sony!
Sounds and looks like Dark Souls, TLoU and God of War all melded into one amazing one-shot experience.
Sign me up Sony!
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Aces&Eights
Member
I'm not convinced that we won't end up being the boy. Why does he get experience points, etc if he is just a "hit square" companion? I'm waiting for the bomb to drop in that Kratos dies really early on in the game and his son becomes the new God of War.
Regardless, I'm liking the direction they are taking with the game. As long as they dont make the crafting and gathering become monotonous shite like in most games, I will be happy. Really need to see more indepth combat, too.
I know that sometimes you need to change thing's to keep things fresh but I think they've gone too far.
The fact that so many people have pretty much stated that they normally dislike god of war games but like the look of this speaks volumes.
This doesn't look like a god of war game to me at all.
Creating a new I.P would have been more beneficial I feel.
I'd have been happy with more of the same with fancy graphics. They could have just added some new moves or some new mechanics. But they seem to have changed genres instead.....
The fact that so many people have pretty much stated that they normally dislike god of war games but like the look of this speaks volumes.
This doesn't look like a god of war game to me at all.
Creating a new I.P would have been more beneficial I feel.
I'd have been happy with more of the same with fancy graphics. They could have just added some new moves or some new mechanics. But they seem to have changed genres instead.....
Why would SSM totally reinvent Kratos just to kill him off early and have his son that nobody really knows be the main protagonist?
Primethius
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I don't think that's an entirely accurate assesment since there's many reasons for why someone who didn't like GoW but loves the look of this.
The gameplay changes are probably a distant second to Kratos not being a piece of shit, one-dimensional character anymore for most I'd wager.
It would not have mattered as much to people if it's brand new in that they don't know the characters and world so have zero attachment. In addition to that, Sony Santa Monica wanted to further Kratos' story. He deserves the change and character development. After all, he's such an iconic character, and yet he's 99% rage.
This, very much. Also, Barlog said that it's not Kratos' last game, so I kind of doubt that.
Yeah I'm a huge GoW fan and I'll go to bat for Ascension all day. I'm still really glad about this shift.
Why I do like the change
I think I'm getting somewhat tired of this sentiment...
I hate the idea that every character has to be developed and multi-layered....there is nothing wrong with just having a crazy raged protagonist for a game, especially a game like god of war
why i do like the change for Kratos there was nothing wrong in how he was portrayed in the first 6 games
More_Badass
Member
Did he ever loose the ashes?
More_Badass
Member
People seem to forget that the first God of War was actually praised for its story too, and was a pretty good example of a classic Greek tragic hero done for modern times. God of War 2 and 3 were the games that turned Kratos into a psycho one-dimensional "character".
dat craftsmanship
It's been said already, but man, this game looks u-n-b-e-l-i-e-v-a-b-l-e! That axe is just as detailed as earlier Kratos models in the GoW games. Insane.