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GoldenEye did not age well
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matrix-cat
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EEEYESS! I AM EENWEENCIBULL!
ThatGayWolf
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I don't know what you're talking about, that scene is amazing.
jts
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It's the cheap/very dated greenscreen. There's no sense of immersion at all. It feels disconnected. A movie about native americans and cowboys could as well be running outside the car to the same effect.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Not really.
The only similarity between Alex and Raul is that they were both OOs.
Other than that, Alex was a double-agent who personally betrayed Bond since Bond was basically his mentor, while Raul was set up as the Bond-before-Bond who went evil and basically was a Bizarro Bond (all the way up to the man-liking).
GameGuru59
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Eh, it's a Bond film. It's supposed to be fun and it was.
Resident4t.
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I thought the movie was terrible. Famke whatshername was crazy hot, though.
speculawyer
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It was so disappointing because he seemed like such a great Bond and GoldenEye was so good . . . but it was all downhill after GoldenEye. The other films have some moments but a lot of bad writing, cheese, and bad casting (Sure, Denise Richards is super scientist.).
vagabondarts
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Truth.
It's great to see what movies used to look like without color grading. And we all knew where to look without making ORANGE=what you look at, TEAL=background/non important stuff.
I admit I haven't watched the whole movie in years. I don't even remember this scene now.
HuskerDutheDu
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The problem with Brosnan Bond is he tried to play it straight and campy at the same time. The other bonds have a distinct feel. Connery is classic. Moore is camp. Dalton is..brooding I guess? And Craig is a straight up brute. Brosnan never really found his thing. Which is disappointing because he probably should be the best bond ever. He just happened to come to the franchise at the worst time when theu struggled to find something "modern" about it.
Goldeneye is his best by far. It's not bad, but it has its problems (this is true of literally every bond movie though). But solid bond. That music is the worst though.
Goldeneye is his best by far. It's not bad, but it has its problems (this is true of literally every bond movie though). But solid bond. That music is the worst though.
MisterFalcon
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billy beane
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I'm gonna go on record and say I do not like Pierce Brosnan James Bond.
Unknown Soldier
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Goldeneye was by far the best of the Brosnan Bond films and it's one of the better Bond films in general.
The rest of the Brosnan era was completely awful though. I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did, Die Another Day was like a parody of Bond films.
ThoseDeafMutes
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I love the existential crisis the Bond writing staff has after the cold war ends. Tomorrow Never Dies had a newspaper mogul trying to start a war to initiate a leadership coup to get press rights in China.
Dorsal Axe
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Holds up better than most other Bond films IMO. The score was considered... odd... even at the time (the producers knew they made a huge mistake and just had to roll with it).
No mention of Natalya, A.K.A. Izabella Scorupco A.K.A. cutest and hottest and bestest bond girl ever and my waifu, GAF you have failed. Get out.
shes fuckin smokin
Chuckie
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travisbickle
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Isn't the music composed by Eric Serra? Thought he'd be considered a God on GAF.
Pause at 1:36 to see the laziest makeover of a stand-in stunt driver ever committed to celluloid.
Commander Jameson
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There was a lot to love about GoldenEye back then and now; the amazing dam bungee dive stunt, Brosnan himself, Tina Turner's belting out a proper James Bond theme song, a great cast of characters that you actually remember (what other Bond film since has characters that you can remember?), one of the best, most physical, Bond fights in the telescope since the classic Bond/Grant fight in From Russia With Love. I'm not even counting how perfect Famke is a Bond villain.
There are problems, of course; the plot is a Goldfinger clone, the score, although still fun, definitely places it in the early 90s.
But it feels like a Bond film and I would much rather watch GoldenEye than the three dull messes that came afterward which just wasted all of Brosnan's talent.
There are problems, of course; the plot is a Goldfinger clone, the score, although still fun, definitely places it in the early 90s.
But it feels like a Bond film and I would much rather watch GoldenEye than the three dull messes that came afterward which just wasted all of Brosnan's talent.
yeah. that's porn-funk.
CheDominik
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Coudn't have said it any better. I think it has been at least 10 years since I last saw this movie and I still remember a lot of details. The same can't be said about a ton of Bond movies.
Yeah it feels like a relict form the cold war and has some weaknesses but at least it's memorable.
Mr. Pointy
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What a lot of people don't realise is that Goldeneye was supposed to be a Dalton movie.
That's why it's good.
That's why it's good.
FairFriend
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SpoonyBard
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Yep. Dalton is the best Bond and you all know it.
Stereogatari
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When did 1997 become the 1960s.
XANDER CAGE
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Overall I'd agree but I actually think that race scene is great. The writing is spot-on suave cheesy Bond goodness, too.
"I enjoy a spirited drive as much as the next girl, but - who's that?"
"The next girl."
That exchange is perf.
"I enjoy a spirited drive as much as the next girl, but - who's that?"
"The next girl."
That exchange is perf.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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This definitely wasn't his best effort, although I really like the "Goldeneye Overture". Atmospheric and electronic while still sounding like something from a Bond movie. It's a shame that Bond scores have played it safe since then, I'd like to see them mix it up a bit more.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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People talking shit about Goldeneye, the best Bondfilm? Get the fuck out!
Best intro stunt ever!
I love the story behind this as well. It was the longest bungie jump ever attempted when they filmed it. The stunt man had to remember to pull out the grappling hook gun during the same shot, and just about managed to do so before he passed out!
Unknown Soldier
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The World Is Not Enough involves the daughter of an oil magnate who tries to detonate a nuclear device in Istanbul to destroy an oil pipeline so she can profit from her oil pipeline which doesn't pass through Istanbul.
I'm really glad they sorted out the legal issues and are bringing SPECTRE back because Eon was so lost without those guys to serve as villains. I mean they invented Quantum just because they needed a stand-in for SPECTRE.
GoldenEye 007
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I mean Fox News basically gets this criticism. At least as far as poisoning the political atmosphere of the U.S. I think what has turned out doesn't seem as much of a stretch as it was in 1997.
Gambit 1138
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Brosnan Bond is Definitive Bond
This scene is great, brings me back... The music is obviously of the time, but I think it conveys the playfulness of what's happening on screen well. Pierce Brosnan is the most charming Bond.
Whoever posted about Brosnan never quite finding his form as Bond is spot on. Bond never cared for what he did in the books, like they wrote Craig's Bond. They try to give him a more serious edge in GoldenEye, but only for a few scenes. The rest is Moore level campyness meets Connery sexmonster at times.
Goldeneye, The Fifth Element and Léon (aka The Professional aka Léon: The Professional) all have the same composer: Eric Serra.
Pwong.
so, i'm watching Goldeneye right now (for the first time since idon'tknowhowlongit'sbeen) and the EMP actually just blew up the satellite controll centre...
I'm also still giggling because of the look Prochnow gives Janssen's character when she's almost climaxing while shooting the station's personnel.
I'm also still giggling because of the look Prochnow gives Janssen's character when she's almost climaxing while shooting the station's personnel.
so, i'm watching Goldeneye right now (for the first time since idon'tknowhowlongit'sbeen) and the EMP actually just blew up the satellite controll centre...
I'm also still giggling b/c of the look Prochnow gives Janssen's character when she's almost climaxing while shooting the station's personnel.
Science has proven that things behave differently than they should when the script calls for it.
fengshuifever
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Fuckin' right. Been saying it for YEARS and everyone thinks I'm crazy.
Also, wait Goldeneye was meant to be Dalton, you say?
Well.
That just furthers it along as one my favourite Bond flicks of all time.
On topic, I guess SOME aspects haven't really aged well (being a movie that's almost 20 years old, you'd expect some things to not hold up) but it still totally captured what made a good Bond entry, not just as a good flick.
Dalton was a badass. He was the first Bond-actor to not outright accept the role. He did eventually accept on the condition that they would write the character more like the novels, much like they did with Casino Royale 25 years later. One of the few Bond actors to not suck Broccoli dick.
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