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GoldenEye did not age well

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Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
amnesiac said:
Best Bond film! Yeah, a little cheesy and dated, but it is still as fun as ever.

If you want to see dated Bond movies go watch the Sean Connery ones. Now those are extremely dated.
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well no shit, they're 60s movies, but I don't find them particularly dated. Dr No and Goldfinger hold up extremely well IMO
 
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raindoc

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Wasn't Dalton the 2nd choice after Brosnan, because the latter was busy filming Remington Steele? I remember reading something like that.

D's my favourite too. I'm going on a Bond Marathon today.


Currygan said:
well no shit, they're 60s movies, but I don't find them particularly dated. Dr No and Goldfinger hold up extremely well IMO
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Absofuckinglutely.
 
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fengshuifever

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Truant said:
Dalton was a badass. He was the first Bond-actor to not outright accept the role. He did eventually accept on the condition that they would write the character more like the novels, much like they did with Casino Royale 25 years later. One of the few Bond actors to not suck Broccoli dick.
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That pretty much skyrockets my respect for Dalton, even though it's totally not unexpected.
I always imagined he always seemed to play Bond with the angle "this is how I perceive how the original Bond character was and that's how I'm gonna portray him, so fuck you".
So good.
I've had this same conversation with multiple people and my reasoning is always this.
Pre-Craig, which Bond would you call that would actually get shit done and efficiently?
Answer was always Dalton.

Man....Licence to Kill was such a fuckin' amazing entry.
 
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Humidex

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Eric Serra? Poor choice of composer - it's a dire one by Bond standards.

The final track, The Experience of Love, is even worse. Half the time you can't hear the damn lyrics.

Score-wise Tomorrow Never Dies, the first from David Arnold, was better.
 
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eot

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Discoid said:
1995!? Shit, I thought this came out in the 70's. I saw it once a few years ago and thought it was just some cheesy old shit that I was too young for.
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The 70's? Bloody hell.
You think the internet was around in the 70's?
 
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Neff

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Bond was never what I'd call genuinely good (Skyfall notwithstanding, it broke tradition spectacularly), but it's always extremely entertaining.
 
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Humidex

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raindoc said:
I'm also still giggling because of the look Prochnow gives Janssen's character when she's almost climaxing while shooting the station's personnel.
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That was Gottfried John. Sadly passed away earlier this year.
 
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Truant

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Neff said:
Bond was never what I'd call genuinely good (Skyfall notwithstanding, it broke tradition spectacularly), but it's always extremely entertaining.
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CR is a genuinely good film, I'd argue. It has some Bond-tropes, but it modernizes them and makes them feel fresh.
 
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chalkitdown1

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I genuinely love Goldeneye and it has nothing to do with my nostalgia for the game or anything else. The fight scene at the end at the bottom of the Satellite is one of the series' best. I love how grounded and realistic it is, no OTT stunts or acrobatics, just two guys beating the shit out of each other in a cramped space.
 
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Guerrillas in the Mist

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raindoc said:
Wasn't Dalton the 2nd choice after Brosnan, because the latter was busy filming Remington Steele? I remember reading something like that.

D's my favourite too. I'm going on a Bond Marathon today.
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He was considered years earlier to replace Sean Connery, but he felt he was too young to take on the role and turned it down.

I would have loved a slightly harder edged Goldeneye with Dalton, and it's already one of my favourite Bond films.
 
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KittenMaster

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fengshuifever said:
Fuckin' right. Been saying it for YEARS and everyone thinks I'm crazy.
Also, wait Goldeneye was meant to be Dalton, you say?

Well.

That just furthers it along as one my favourite Bond flicks of all time..
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Yep. You can tell it was basically meant to be The Living Daylights 2.0, but a several year delay introduced a lot of changes to make it 1995 relevant.
 
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raindoc

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Guerrillas in the Mist said:
He was considered years earlier to replace Sean Connery, but he felt he was too young to take on the role and turned it down.

I would have loved a slightly harder edged Goldeneye with Dalton, and it's already one of my favourite Bond films.
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nope.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierce_Brosnan#James_Bond_.281994.E2.80.932005.29

http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Pierce_Brosnan

In 1986, with Roger Moore's retirement from the role, Timothy Dalton was offered the role of James Bond once again after previously having turned it down when Sean Connery vacated the role in 1967. The 1986 film adaptation of Brenda Starr, however, kept Dalton from being able to immediately accept the role. A number of actors were then screen-tested for the role, notably Sam Neill, but ultimately were passed over by Cubby Broccoli. Brosnan (whose Remington Steele series had just ended), was offered the role, but publicity revived the Remington Steele programme and forced Brosnan to back out of the role due to his contract with the show. Dalton then became available and accepted the role. Dalton's second turn as 007 Licence to Kill (1989), was a disappointment at the American box office, and legal squabbles about ownership of the film franchise resulted in cancellation of a proposed third Dalton film in 1991 (rumoured title: The Property of A Lady) and would put the series in a six-year hiatus. During that time, Dalton acted upon a clause in his contract and resigned, which left the door open for Brosnan, in 1994].
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LeeRoyBrown

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Long Johnson said:
No mention of Natalya, A.K.A. Izabella Scorupco A.K.A. cutest and hottest and bestest bond girl ever and my waifu, GAF you have failed. Get out.

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Fucking Word.

She's ages pretty well also.

Apparently 44....apparently.

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Fucking side boob, beg for butter milk.

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War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
Man God said:
Also the most useful, least defenseless Bond Girl. She's central to the plot, not really a damsel in distress, and is the one that really saves the day.
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Not at all. Camille in Quantum of Solace or Halle Berry in DAD are more appropriate for that description.
 
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BertramCooper

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GoldenEye has always been overrated. It's a completely average Bond film. It's easily the best Brosnan Bond film, but that's not saying much.

And yeah, the score is pretty much unlistenable.
 
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Duress

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A lot of Bond films didn't age well. They're Bond films. If you expected something, not so cheesy, then you are looking at the wrong movies. You have to look at it in terms of the time period they came out.
 
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isny

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abracadaver

abracadaver

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Betta Lines said:
GoldenEye is definitely not as cheesy as the Moore era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzCIbhLUUA0
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The stunt is pretty awesome. I had to look up how they made it.

IMDB said:
The cork-screw car jump was apparently conceived years before the movie went into production. Researchers at Cornell University were studying rollover collisions for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and they did a computer simulation of the barrel roll stunt used in the film. Race car driver Jay Milligan, who is the promoter of the American Thrill Show during the 1960s and 1970s with the sponsorship of the American Motors Corporation, did actually perform the barrel roll stunt, known as the Astro Spiral Jump and it debuted on January 12, 1972 at the Houston Astrodome using an AMC Javelin. Milligan was contacted by Albert R. Broccoli during an American Thrill Show performance in Hershey, Pennsylvania where he wanted the stunt performed in a James Bond film. The producers Harry Saltzman and Albert R. Broccoli allegedly took out patents and copyrights on the stunt as they did not wish it to appear in another movie before they had used it. The 360-degree car-spiraling jump over a canal was performed in just one take by uncredited British stuntman 'Bumps' Williard as 8 cameras simultaneously captured the spectacle. So potentially hazardous was the nature of the stunt, divers, ambulances and cranes were on standby alert in case of any catastrophic consequences. The stunt was so rapid that the film is shown in slow motion. Williard was given a large bonus for completing the jump on the first take. Jay Milligan did actually perform the driving stunts with the AMC Hornet used in the film - AMC provided 15 vehicles used in the film (some of them where AMC Matador police cars). There were two AMC Hornets used for the spiral jump stunt and one of them is still owned by Jay Milligan - which is the backup vehicle while the other one is in a museum. The jump is also credited with being the first stunt ever to be calculated by computer modeling.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071807/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv
 
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Woody Invincible

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I love you beautiful people defending Dalton. Goldeneye would have been CR levels of good with him instead of Brosnan. Okay that was a big hyperbolic, but almost as good.
 
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Guy.brush

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GoldenEye had one big flaw imo:
Why do you need a SETI antenna the size of a volcano crater to communicate with a LEO satellite when you can do the same fucking thing with a simple satellite phone?
 
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Tempesta di Fuoco

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I think The World is Not Enough has aged the best and is the best Brosnan movie, funny enough, since just 12 years ago I was calling it easily his worst (before Die Another Day came out). It's the only movie where I felt like Brosnan was a human and not a cartoon (other than the torture sequence at the beginning of the fourth movie). The scene where he shoots Electra is one of my favorite Bond moments.
 
Rest

Rest

All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Speaking of Goldeneye, I saw a remake for the DS at the store the other day. Does anyone know if that was any good?
 
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