TylerDurden4321
Member
Oh wow, I thought they'd do rolling starts then. Just read up on it and they seem to balance the off-the-line disadvantage by forcing longer first gears on the RWD cars - interesting. Thanks
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Gran Turismo Sport Beta Thread
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Oh wow, I thought they'd do rolling starts then. Just read up on it and they seem to balance the off-the-line disadvantage by forcing longer first gears on the RWD cars - interesting. Thanks
I did some qualifying races last night, and I think this is the first time I've actually been impressed by the visuals in an oval track and not consider it bland visually. They packed in a lot of detail off to the sides. Looks great in motion. And man have I missed how GT plays.
boneyjangles
Member
It's ridiculous that it's on as default, ridiculous.
PodcastFips
Member
The oval track really has some issues when it comes to ghosting, probably due to overall speed. I seem to be able to cross opponents (sometimes on, sometimes off the ideal racing line) all the time, especially during the first section that requires you to brake.
And this is quite an advantage, because you can simply disregard your opponent who may try to close the lane, and force you to the outside.
And this is quite an advantage, because you can simply disregard your opponent who may try to close the lane, and force you to the outside.
Patrick S.
Banned
Did some extra qualifying to fill the driven distance quota to get today's free car. Game got stuck in an infinite loading loop. Restarted, no car given. Wasted twenty minutes for this.
AnythingBut
Member
Nords GR3...oh yes.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Got to say, I really, really hate the Ford, but the other cars are so good.
Chris Metal
Member
Didn't get in any online races tonight, but filled my distance quota. BMW.
I just love watching it because it's so close and competitive. It's a brilliant championship, lots of fun.
So jealous.
Any idea how often they divvy out codes (daily or weekly, for instance)?
Chris Metal
Member
Man... I'm rubbish on the Ring, infact pretty bad all round haha 😂, though shaved a minute off my second run round. I think using my wheel may improve things, steering looks a little wobbly using a controller.
DaleinCalgary
Member
I've got a US beta code for the first one that quotes this. I tried to put it in my Canadian account but I think I need to log into the US one. And I'm lazy and just want to wait for the release anyway.
I'll PM the code.
I'll PM the code.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Indeed.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
You can hear an announcer on Willow Springs over the PA system if you happen to go off track. That's mad attention to detail.
(I race with music off)
(I race with music off)
Patrick S.
Banned
The Schleife looks awesome in this game. And it's a joy to drive on with the Z4 GT3. I put the same combo on in Project Cars afterwards, and it felt really weird after playing it in Gran Turismo. No escaping shitty pad controls in PCars 
Same. It's the first time I notice how narrow it is too. The sense of speed is pretty great too, it felt like wipeout at times.
SunhiLegend
Member
OK, I think it is the last gen that we can tell that this is a game.
TylerDurden4321
Member
Nordschleife was the closest to having "having fun" I had so far with this Beta.
I can also pinpoint exactly why I didn't have fun:
- the bad FOV ruins my Nordschleife training from other sims (really, just an FOV slider that even allows some extreme values, and I could say "this is really fun", it's not so hard, PD!)
and,less important, but also:
- There is something with the tire model, where you get understeer when braking and turning (even with brake balance to the rear, brake balance doesn't really seem to work in this game). So due to this being quite unintuitive, I turn in too much (nothing happens, because of the understeer), but as I smoothly let off the brake, while still holding the too high steering angle, the understeer goes away and BOOM, heavy oversteer. GTS is not the only sim that has this, pCARS for example has this too (and worse), but I never had this in a GT game before. Assetto Corsa had this in some very few cars, but they dialed this out almost completely within the last year.
- What happened to to the different ABS settings you could choose from in the MFD? They kept TCS in there, but got rid of ABS? Why? With the default ABS you don't have to think about inside-wheel lock-up, very comfortable and doesn't seem to slow you down much either, but downhill, if you just floor the brake, you can still lock up the tires (at least from the sound of it, didn't check the replay).
Edit: Question
I have 3 Gr.3 cars right now, when I set a qualifying time in one car and then want to try another, will my old time from the first car be overwritten??
I can also pinpoint exactly why I didn't have fun:
- the bad FOV ruins my Nordschleife training from other sims (really, just an FOV slider that even allows some extreme values, and I could say "this is really fun", it's not so hard, PD!)
and,less important, but also:
- There is something with the tire model, where you get understeer when braking and turning (even with brake balance to the rear, brake balance doesn't really seem to work in this game). So due to this being quite unintuitive, I turn in too much (nothing happens, because of the understeer), but as I smoothly let off the brake, while still holding the too high steering angle, the understeer goes away and BOOM, heavy oversteer. GTS is not the only sim that has this, pCARS for example has this too (and worse), but I never had this in a GT game before. Assetto Corsa had this in some very few cars, but they dialed this out almost completely within the last year.
- What happened to to the different ABS settings you could choose from in the MFD? They kept TCS in there, but got rid of ABS? Why? With the default ABS you don't have to think about inside-wheel lock-up, very comfortable and doesn't seem to slow you down much either, but downhill, if you just floor the brake, you can still lock up the tires (at least from the sound of it, didn't check the replay).
Edit: Question
I have 3 Gr.3 cars right now, when I set a qualifying time in one car and then want to try another, will my old time from the first car be overwritten??
Tommi84
Member
Why additional arrows if there's already 'blind-spot indicator' showing not only which side the car behind you is but alos how far?
You can see them here:
Specifically in those two places marked:
Play the game and you'll see that this will still take a long time.
Chris Metal
Member
LOL I'm like a minute slower. And with a wheel, turns out I'm worse but I'm chalking that up to never using one before.
Popsickles
Member
Have you tried loading on an account that is not in the beta because I have and it gives you a message that this account is not authorised to play the beta. Sure you can redeam and download but it wont let you play unless your account is whitelisted
Now 7:36...pad....The car has a life of its own...
Chris Metal
Member
What car you got? I have two I can choose, the BMW Z4 or Aston V12, V12 seems to shake a lot.
TylerDurden4321
Member
I tried to get into DTM once, didn't stick. Just last year got back into F1. I'll look into how I could watch BTCC here in germany, even if not live. Lots of british tracks that I love. Thanks again.
I just posted because I want the spotter-guy over the radio, I like it in games like Automobilista and iRacing (which I only get to hear on youtube, but still, I like it).
Also, there is no look-left, look-right for wheel users without a stick, or did I get that wrong too.
I'll restrain myself from saying my Nordschleife times here.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Racing around the ring is the closest graphics have ever been to real life in a racing game, I mean goddamn its incredible.
And this is just a beta.............
And this is just a beta.............
Heh, I personally think that many visual elements are quite poor, but overall fell is good. For example, grass around the track just a flat texture. I hope that will be fixed.
The track would look better if they chose different lightning. Full daylight can sometimes produce unflattering results.
boneyjangles
Member
Just finished my first lap of the ring without crashing. 7min55sec with the Audi. Then I look at the leaderboards and I'm over a minute slower than the top times
Sigh, I can see me getting that down 30 seconds with time due to a few dodgy corners, but not much more.
From watching Marvin's videos everyone was telling him to stop using driving aids at the beginning. To what extent do the top players do this?
I'm using traction control 1, steer off, brake assist off, abs mild, manual gears, default brake balance, but does all this stuff actually make you faster when you get used to it or is it just for more 'fun'. It certainly feels more fun, far more lively and 'in control' but I wonder what the top times have on/off.
Secondly, I've done no tweaking/tuning, but from watching a few youtube videos, some good players seem to go in and mess with camber and ride height. How much difference does this make? Does it just effect driving feel or does it reduce times? If it affects speed, i'm really not a fan of having to do that just to 'keep up'. For an online competitive game everyone should just be some stock setting, no?
Anyway, exhilarating and exciting to play now, ring is brilliant fun. Love using the faster cars, and Dragon's Trail is a really fun track too. Willow is pretty and also very nice to drive on.
Sigh, I can see me getting that down 30 seconds with time due to a few dodgy corners, but not much more.
From watching Marvin's videos everyone was telling him to stop using driving aids at the beginning. To what extent do the top players do this?
I'm using traction control 1, steer off, brake assist off, abs mild, manual gears, default brake balance, but does all this stuff actually make you faster when you get used to it or is it just for more 'fun'. It certainly feels more fun, far more lively and 'in control' but I wonder what the top times have on/off.
Secondly, I've done no tweaking/tuning, but from watching a few youtube videos, some good players seem to go in and mess with camber and ride height. How much difference does this make? Does it just effect driving feel or does it reduce times? If it affects speed, i'm really not a fan of having to do that just to 'keep up'. For an online competitive game everyone should just be some stock setting, no?
Anyway, exhilarating and exciting to play now, ring is brilliant fun. Love using the faster cars, and Dragon's Trail is a really fun track too. Willow is pretty and also very nice to drive on.
Of course I have, that's how I know, and I know of at least one other person in this thread doing exactly the same.
SunhiLegend
Member
Yeah, power might be same across the board but a cars characteristics can make a world of difference...
Class, be nice if there were skidmarks...
AnythingBut
Member
Currently 7:04, but have issues with the rear stepping out that i need to tune away so def a 6:5? in there.