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[R_thanatos]

Its a trap, Charlotta is not worth the effort, she is a begginer character that can be rolled on the rigged ticket. outdated at this point.

Keep in mind that the characters will always be available to draw. The only characters who leave the draw pool temporarily are the SSR versions of the main story characters, seasonal characters, and zodiac characters.

Thanks for the info . gonna keep raiding to get more items.

I finally tested the casino.. i feel like it's a even worse time and money sink than in real life.
Is there any intrest that i use the casino ? i checked the rewards and it wasn't good at first glance.

 

[Dragner]

Thanks for the info . gonna keep raiding to get more items.

I finally tested the casino.. i feel like it's a even worse time and money sink than in real life.
Is there any intrest that i use the casino ? i checked the rewards and it wasn't good at first glance.

Yes.

Anat the summon is insanely good even if you dont play wind. It has gacha stats and you can lvl 100 it with the 4 copies so is a great stat bump. Also its call effect is +atk party wide for 3 turns, the same as premium summons like Bahamut or Lucifer. Pretty absurd for free.

If you grind Christina she is an ok but borderline mediocre SSr, but her weapon counts as a gacha weapon so you reduce it for 200 gun stones to make a nebuchad/oliver or uncap 4* SSR magna guns easier.

The same for the swords, are super mediocre but you can reduce em for full amount like they are gacha weapons.

Also you can get pots and berries everyday, animas and silver bricks and gems that you can use to uncap things like baha weapons or Carbuncles without wasting dupes.

Grinding casino is key so you should do it, even if you dont get the gun try catching Anat and play a bit everyday por pots and berries.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Thanks for the info . gonna keep raiding to get more items.

I finally tested the casino.. i feel like it's a even worse time and money sink than in real life.
Is there any intrest that i use the casino ? i checked the rewards and it wasn't good at first glance.

You should at least do the casino for the 200 berries and 100 1/2 elixirs a month, You can easily get the amount in 10-30 minutes of poker, for several months worth of coins to buy these.

You need the silver bars from the casino to upgrade uncap the Xeno Weapons.

The other stuff is garbage and a waste of time since poker is so boring.

 

[Strimei]

I finally tested the casino.. i feel like it's a even worse time and money sink than in real life.
Is there any intrest that i use the casino ? i checked the rewards and it wasn't good at first glance.

In my experience, stick to poker, 1000 chip bet, 2 cards. Whenever you get one of the various hands it lists and you get the chance to do high or low, do it. Guess if the card that's face down is higher or lower than the one you see. Its annoying and you'll lose quite often but you'll get there eventually.

Anat is very worth it.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Why are you getting colo canes, you should be getting ancient ecks sachs from twin elements instead.

I second this advice if you are playing magna fire (which is dreadful).

MrCinos, here's wishing you good luck to pull an Agni/Athena/Shiva at some point soon!

 

[Xisiqomelir]

well...it happened

It took me only 3 days from stage 1 to get the character, I dont recommend you grinding so hard if you want to keep your sanity. 200 pots and 700 berries later...I got it.

Nice! Good job

I too burned a little bit too much on getting materials. In hindsight it's probably better to actually do the daily hards for things like lacrimosa and untamed flame and save AP for blood amber/cloth etc.This also helps a little bit with capping pendants

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Nice! Good job

I too burned a little bit too much on getting materials. In hindsight it's probably better to actually do the daily hards for things like lacrimosa and untamed flame and save AP for blood amber/cloth etc.This also helps a little bit with capping pendants

Im making my third character now (Seofon), but 4th full weapon, one will neve rhave enough of all these items, I always get stuck on the 20 omega items, an dnow that Im building two swords for Seofon's uncap...ugh.

Ill need to make Seox next, as I have his weapon ready to be elechanged.

 

[Strimei]

Raising event-Charlotta's loyalty was annoying as I couldn't really figure out what it was she wanted. Essentially just shoved bad food at her until she went "fine, I'll join you."

And speaking of GW characters, I've lagged behind on making my first one. How long is the upgrading the shop part? That's my next step.

 

[R_thanatos]

Yes.

Anat the summon is insanely good even if you dont play wind. It has gacha stats and you can lvl 100 it with the 4 copies so is a great stat bump. Also its call effect is +atk party wide for 3 turns, the same as premium summons like Bahamut or Lucifer. Pretty absurd for free.

If you grind Christina she is an ok but borderline mediocre SSr, but her weapon counts as a gacha weapon so you reduce it for 200 gun stones to make a nebuchad/oliver or uncap 4* SSR magna guns easier.

The same for the swords, are super mediocre but you can reduce em for full amount like they are gacha weapons.

Also you can get pots and berries everyday, animas and silver bricks and gems that you can use to uncap things like baha weapons or Carbuncles without wasting dupes.

Grinding casino is key so you should do it, even if you dont get the gun try catching Anat and play a bit everyday por pots and berries.

You should at least do the casino for the 200 berries and 100 1/2 elixirs a month, You can easily get the amount in 10-30 minutes of poker, for several months worth of coins to buy these.

You need the silver bars from the casino to upgrade uncap the Xeno Weapons.

The other stuff is garbage and a waste of time since poker is so boring.

In my experience, stick to poker, 1000 chip bet, 2 cards. Whenever you get one of the various hands it lists and you get the chance to do high or low, do it. Guess if the card that's face down is higher or lower than the one you see. Its annoying and you'll lose quite often but you'll get there eventually.

Anat is very worth it.

So .. if i understand this , Get Anat , some silver bars maybe christina if i have the time.

Got it ..

 

[Xisiqomelir]

And speaking of GW characters, I've lagged behind on making my first one. How long is the upgrading the shop part? That's my next step.

After ancient cloth, my 2nd least favourite part.

Look through your inventory RIGHT NOW for the rare weapons needed and stash any of them you might already have.

For the rest go to the appropriate farming stage, equip a Belle Sylphid support (get your own for max placebo) and hope you see the Rare Monster for the drop.

If you have enough whale tears (cerulean stones) you can also buy a few Mithra anima which is the other annoying bit.

 

[Dragner]

Im making my third character now (Seofon), but 4th full weapon, one will neve rhave enough of all these items, I always get stuck on the 20 omega items, an dnow that Im building two swords for Seofon's uncap...ugh.

Ill need to make Seox next, as I have his weapon ready to be elechanged.

yeah, for my second one Ill wait for the anima items and the prisms I dont want to grind 120 magna items like I did this time again in my life.

The good thing is that once you do your first one you basically have all the whorls,orbs,etc...to do another 2 or 3 of other elements if you spammed angel halo hard.

Probably picking Quattre next since I want a maxed GW dagger and I have already a couple of elechanged and Quattre is really good.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Added in my third sword, and I could finally add two more skill levels to the baha dagger (thank you to my two lvl 15 Luminera harp omegas). One of the guns is also 4star but i dont have any fodder to skill level it or even level it up past 101

Building water and dark now..

Came back to focus on my Light grid. finally in the 60K club, and the two guns still have more levels to add. One more uncap gun, then just hunting for swords, and a different bow.

 

[Hemlock Study]

In the midst of serious players here I am lamenting that I was unable to fully uncap the Charlotte summon which is probably quite useless because I wasn't diligent enough in my farming. I played until the last minute but that fourth selfie never dropped. I am filled with regret. Thankfully I don't have one of these SSR summon uncap items, or I might have been stupid enough to use it. On an event summon. That doesn't even give an attack boost.

Looks like the upcoming event will have quite the gaggle of SR characters to collect, not sure how the challenge part = characters is gonna work.

 

[rocketskates]

In the midst of serious players here I am lamenting that I was unable to fully uncap the Charlotte summon which is probably quite useless because I wasn't diligent enough in my farming. I played until the last minute but that fourth selfie never dropped. I am filled with regret. Thankfully I don't have one of these SSR summon uncap items, or I might have been stupid enough to use it. On an event summon. That doesn't even give an attack boost.

Looks like the upcoming event will have quite the gaggle of SR characters to collect, not sure how the challenge part = characters is gonna work.

Mainly if you're new. I think there's only 2 new ones exclusive if you haven't done the previous ones.

I'm just hoping it's translated this time.

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

But also now you can get all of the characters without having to play anything but Granblue, right?

 

[Ultimadrago]

But also now you can get all of the characters without having to play anything but Granblue, right?

I hope so. I just want Koume and Anzu without playing any stupid Idolm@ster game.

 

[Caim]

But also now you can get all of the characters without having to play anything but Granblue, right?

Yeah I think they are all tied to challenge missions mentioned on the news post because they got rid of the Idolmaster/Rage of Bahamut linking stuff awhile back.

 

[Hemlock Study]

Which means that if they ever do another Tales collab no one will have to slog through Asteria ever again (ha-le-lu-jah)
I have the four girls from the previous Pina event (the Sombre Axe one) and the two from the Wurst event, but I have no idea about the ones from the challenge quests.
But I wonder, there's usually a set way to win a challenge quest, it's like a sort of puzzle, right? If you just need to clear it once to get a new char, then it shouldn't be too hard to get the three of them.
That's a far cry from farming for loyalty (though that's over pretty quickly too now, either they changed it or I got stronger)

 

[tiltnkirby]

Yeah I think they are all tied to challenge missions mentioned on the news post because they got rid of the Idolmaster/Rage of Bahamut linking stuff awhile back.

Yes, after finishing the event story they all show up as challenge quests in the special tab. They'll be rolling all the quests out as the event goes on.

Which means that if they ever do another Tales collab no one will have to slog through Asteria ever again (ha-le-lu-jah)

Maybe not since those were collabs with a totally different company. They had to end the RoB/CG one because GBF was added to another portal site in Japan that didn't have RoB/CG so they had to end it.

But I wonder, there's usually a set way to win a challenge quest, it's like a sort of puzzle, right? If you just need to clear it once to get a new char, then it shouldn't be too hard to get the three of them.
That's a far cry from farming for loyalty (though that's over pretty quickly too now, either they changed it or I got stronger)

They're easy as heck. You can pretty much auto past it without much trouble.

You're noticing it's quicker because loyalty is based off of AP usage, so tougher fights normally equals more points.

 

[Hemlock Study]

You're noticing it's quicker because loyalty is based off of AP usage, so tougher fights normally equals more points.

Oh? I was somehow convinced you gained more loyalty based on how well you did in a given fight (damage dealt?), but you're basically paying for loyalty in AP? Huh.

 

[bigkrev]

Did the Scam Gacha, got Romeo.

Can't complain!

 

[Pachael]

Mainly if you're new. I think there's only 2 new ones exclusive if you haven't done the previous ones.

I'm just hoping it's translated this time.

Miria/Anastasia is translated this time

I've had them in my party since last year and they were always displayed in Japanese previously, but on this refresh they're now in English too - hooray

Maybe not since those were collabs with a totally different company. They had to end the RoB/CG one because GBF was added to another portal site in Japan that didn't have RoB/CG so they had to end it.

Reverse collab is still in though - got a sweet GBF background with the Puchis in CG.

 

[omlet]

I second this advice if you are playing magna fire (which is dreadful).

MrCinos, here's wishing you good luck to pull an Agni/Athena/Shiva at some point soon!

Dreadfully strong, you mean, right? Fire magna is in such good shape these days with xeno axe berserker, lv150 athenas at every turn, shivas not too hard to find for assists... You don't even need a grid full of ecke. I play a fairly mature agni grid and I get out damaged by magna fire quite often.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Why is the 15mln celebration so terrible.

Daily Free Crystals > 20 half elixrs
Wheres the pendent cap increase?
Wheres the Free Quests half off?
Wheres the double Journey Drop effects?

Awful.

 

[Ultimadrago]

Cute art (though I might stick with the money one)~ I wish Koume was one of the characters with a max uncap, but just Anzu is great. I'm tempted to try for Mika and Rika as well. I'm curious who from the idol events will get full uncaps next time.

 

[Verelios]

Just retreated out of nightmare...I don't really want to play a battle of attrition with this guy.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Just retreated out of nightmare...I don't really want to play a battle of attrition with this guy.

What? Its the easiest NM in these recent set of events this year. Hes even susceptible to paralyze!1

 

[Verelios]

What? Its the easiest NM in these recent set of events this year. Hes even susceptible to paralyze!1

If I can't roll over him with my Fire team then I'm better off playing Extreme.

 

[pancakesandsex]

If I can't roll over him with my Fire team then I'm better off playing Extreme.

Which NM, there's 3?

 

[Verelios]

Which NM, there's 3?

The second one. There are three? I thought raid didn't have a NM?

 

[tiltnkirby]

The second one. There are three? I thought raid didn't have a NM?

Nightmares are special free quests that show up every once in awhile after clearing single player event tab fights. I'm not sure if they unlock from hosting the raid version but the raid version is garbo for drops so I never tried. I know for sure you can't trigger it from joining raids

Have you see any of these quests? The 60 fight is about as difficult as a hard omega fight.

Why is the 15mln celebration so terrible.

Daily Free Crystals > 20 half elixrs
Wheres the pendent cap increase?
Wheres the Free Quests half off?
Wheres the double Journey Drop effects?

Awful.

Well, if you convert the potions to crystals using time travel and old kirin trains, I think it works out.

 

[Verelios]

Oh, yeah I only finished the lvl 60 one. It seemed like a lot of busy work to do anything else when I can just clear extreme for drops. I didn't know there was a third one though, how hard is that?

 

[deathkiller]

Oh, yeah I only finished the lvl 60 one. It seemed like a lot of busy work to do anything else when I can just clear extreme for drops. I didn't know there was a third one though, how hard is that?

Looking at the wiki it seems that Nightmare are the only way to get the stars drops that are used for 4th star of the event weapons.

 

[tiltnkirby]

Oh, yeah I only finished the lvl 60 one. It seemed like a lot of busy work to do anything else when I can just clear extreme for drops. I didn't know there was a third one though, how hard is that?

Shining stars, urns and weapon drops.

 

[firehawk12]

You can probably ignore the Nightmares if you can't kill them easily though. I assume the harder ones are for full grid people.

Speaking of the event, is there a secret Ranko-like character this time around? Do you need to use the new summon a billion times to get someone secret to show up? lol

 

[Verelios]

Looking at the wiki it seems that Nightmare are the only way to get the stars drops that are used for 4th star of the event weapons.

Shining stars, urns and weapon drops.

Wait, what? Damn that's a pain.

 

[Ultimadrago]

Oh, free Earth Sword in the box.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Dreadfully strong, you mean, right?

Nope

It's a gacha mobile game tho, so I expect a little p2w. My varuna friend destroys our "optimal" magna water players as well etc

 

[cress2000]

That feel when you've somehow pulled Varuna twice (and maxed her with the only two sunslight stones you've managed to scape up over the past year) but yet have the worst fucking luck when it comes to pulling actual SSR water characters

 

[Dragner]

5 Tia guns and 2 celeste claws and 1 axe in 2 days of magnafest...without even tryharding (just did 1 hour rush and that was all other than using the normal EP).

That will do for 3 magnafest with 0 guns in a row. Now Im finally done with my Wind grid, fuck you Tiamat.

Time to focus on dark that this game push me to do (Im at 11 dark SSRs now inclusing every single limited except christmas rosetta)

 

[omlet]

Nope

It's a gacha mobile game tho, so I expect a little p2w. My varuna friend destroys our "optimal" magna water players as well etc

I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by showing a calc using double MLB Shiva and an utterly impractical number of Xeno weapons, but whatever it is, it doesn't prove that magna fire is not strong and in a really good position these days, especially compared to this time last year.

Also, varuna is not agni.

Edit: Here, I can play with motocal, too.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by showing a calc using double MLB Shiva and an utterly impractical number of Xeno weapons

That's my end build for fire, sorry if you find it offensive. About half of my friend Shivas are MLB, and I'll be there myself in a few GW. I'm hoping it won't be more than one more Xeno ifrit event to get to 5 flamescythes.

Also, varuna is not agni.

Are you disputing that the game is at least a little p2w, which was my point, or are you simply nit-picking here?

Edit: Here, I can play with motocal, too.

So...you agree with me and DtL that if you are forced to play magna fire, more AES are better than Colo canes?

This isn't any kind of statement about people's characters, I have to play Celeste x Baha instead of Hades x Hades and I know my dark team is sub-par as a result.

 

[TUSR]

 

[Jindrael]

That's my end build for fire, sorry if you find it offensive. About half of my friend Shivas are MLB, and I'll be there myself in a few GW. I'm hoping it won't be more than one more Xeno ifrit event to get to 5 flamescythes.



Are you disputing that the game is at least a little p2w, which was my point, or are you simply nit-picking here?



So...you agree with me and DtL that if you are forced to play magna fire, more AES are better than Colo canes?

This isn't any kind of statement about people's characters, I have to play Celeste x Baha instead of Hades x Hades and I know my dark team is sub-par as a result.

Look I don't mind whatever you want to believe but I'm only going to say that your motocal screenshot it just plain wrong .... I don't know what you have been calcing there but the gap between your two options is WAY too high if you have actually taken the same numbers for both options

I can only explain your numbers if your magna summon pool in motocal has a significant lower raw damage ... which shouldn't be the case the maximum difference in summon pools should be the difference in raw attack between shiva and colo.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Star premium draw gave me Ayer, redemption from last times gold moon lol. I love Ayer.

 

[darkblade77]

Whatever AES is, it's not P2W, and the effort taken to go nuts on flamescythes is not exactly the best strategy for on-element magna fire; high Unknown use is best served in Grande or double elemental builds. Once you pass 2 flamescythes in a magna build, you're in redundancy/razor's edge territory.

If you're fighting off-element, p2w-level primal builds definitely peel away, but there are better elements to p2w with if you want to bother going down that route. (not that fire's version is bad but ijs)

If you can set aside a couple of days(and I mean literally spending the lion's share of your day efficiently) hard farming xeno ifrit and your water team is strong enough to make it expedient, you can get a lot of flamescythes. 5 in one event is probably well within 'bad for your health IRL' territory though.

Honestly the amount of effort you'd sink makes me wonder why not farm AES anyway, as they're the strongest base grid weapon fire has for on-element encounters, even with gatcha and moon weapons included. Its cousin ES even outperforms Crimson Fingers in double primal builds when on-element.

Also like Jindrael mentioned, I can't reproduce those motocal numbers; the two sets of hypothetical builds are a lot closer to each other than that image lets off.

 

[omlet]

That's my end build for fire, sorry if you find it offensive. About half of my friend Shivas are MLB, and I'll be there myself in a few GW. I'm hoping it won't be more than one more Xeno ifrit event to get to 5 flamescythes.

I feel like it shouldn't have had to be said but I think it needs to be said now. To put context to my comment about magna fire...
1) I was talking about the average player's magna fire options, which would be your own colo aura + a shiva assist
2) I said "you don't even need a grid full of ecke" but I never said you don't need any.
3) The fact that such potential higher output builds using shiva or agni exists does not in any way mean that magna fire is not very strong these days.

I mean, if you wanna farm your brains out for xeno in the short timeframe(s) they're available, and you lucksack your way into a shiva of your own, more power to you, but that's far from necessary to make a good fire grid.

Are you disputing that the game is at least a little p2w, which was my point, or are you simply nit-picking here?

Neither? I brought up agni in comparison to magna for fire, and varuna has nothing to do with either in that context. As far as P2W goes, let's not equate having a primal summon with P2W, because anyone can draw a primal with a free or crystal roll, and you can build a good primal grid for fire and water without spending money. Of course ticketing (edit: or sparking/whaling) a grid full of grand character and/or moon weapons is gonna produce some incredible output, but so what? No one is arguing otherwise.

So...you agree with me and DtL that if you are forced to play magna fire, more AES are better than Colo canes?

I guess? I never disputed anything about eckes. You can get at least one AES every 5 weeks, too, so it's not like they're that hard to get for an experienced player.

 

[ohlawd]

damn, omlet emanating that FOE aura

 

[Dragner]

The event is really easy to farm, maniac diff is really easy and nightmare has like one trigger you have to fear and bring clear. Theres a lot of farming to do so I appreciate they dont add obnoxious mechanics on these bosses.

 

[Hemlock Study]

The event is really easy to farm, maniac diff is really easy and nightmare has like one trigger you have to fear and bring clear. Theres a lot of farming to do so I appreciate they dont add obnoxious mechanics on these bosses.

What's easier in your opinion, the easiest Nightmare or Maniac? With my current build I can sort of work through the Nightmare rokujizo, but it's not a happy battle.