Lucifers Beard
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Grubb Wrong Again, EA Debunks: Dead Space 2 Remake Canceled Rumor
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cash_longfellow
Gold Member
Why do we not have a Grubb OT thread where we keep updated track of his win/loss record, and where we keep receipts of the dumb shit he says? Lol
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Dated is datedKind of pissed atS0ULZB0URNE for making me come to the defense of Dead Space which I think has aged poorly and was overrated in the first place.
So Dead Space evolved into....Punch Out?
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Because the person destined to make that thread (you) hasn't conjured the cajones yet.
Kydd BlaZe
Member
I'm actually really fucking upset about this. Dead Space 2 remake would've kicked so much ass. ITS NOT FAIR!!!
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
This.
It's a 1:1 remake with no added stuff and just some QoL improvements, plus :
- No photo mode
- No new worthwhile extra bits
- GFX, while not bad, weren't THAT good either.
It was basically DS 2008 with a (not so) shinier coat of paint.
RE4Re on the other hand...say what you will but all the added (new) stuff was actually really nicely implemented - knife counters above all, plus, the fat trimming here and there also helped it IMO.
DS remake...I spent 1 euro to play through the whole thing via EA play promotion and upon completing it I was "is this it ?" - absolutely not worth the 70 Eurodollars MSRP
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YuLY
Member
Yes it is worth that. There is too much hyperbole over it, it is a decent 7/10 game. We dont get many SF survival horror games so I think it is worth it. Especially if you dont mind melee focus, guns are available and enough if you invest most of your credits in ammo, but you will still need to melee a good amount of time. My main gripes are mediocre story and a bit too many literal crawling scripted sections, but decent game.
cash_longfellow
Gold Member
I anticipated this being the first response
. I don’t know man, most of the folks who make threads around here are really solid at it, I wouldn’t want to disappoint the community with a less than stellar Grubb OT thread.Jeff Grubb |OT| What’s The Rub On Grubb? Will He Eat, Or Should He Shut His Wormhole?
See what I did there with the multiple uses of the word “grub”
I’ll see myself out.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Suck my balls. Remakes can be great. The re1 remake is one of the best games ever. Dead Space remake was great. I did my part and bought it at launch. Shame on the rest of you.
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decisions
Member
On PC the graphics/sound were among the best games I ever played. Have to disagree that they didn’t do an amazing job with this remake.
cash_longfellow
Gold Member
Quite possibly my favorite intro to a response I’ve seen on Gaf this year, idk why I laughed so hard at this
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TheAtomicPile
Member
Bummer. As sad as it is, this and RE4 remake were two of the best things I played all last year. I would definitely have bought a Dead Space 2 remake if it was as well done as the first.
It seems like a legitimate concern for the industry if they can't even take the "easy" route of remaking old games to turn a profit. If you're EA why would you bother with anything other than sports/GaaS right now?
It seems like a legitimate concern for the industry if they can't even take the "easy" route of remaking old games to turn a profit. If you're EA why would you bother with anything other than sports/GaaS right now?
Sethbacca
Member
Not everything needs to be open world. Stop the Ubification of everything. Just no.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
One of my favorite games of that gen and it gets canned. EA and Ubisoft must want GaaS Fortnite Assassin’s Creed.
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Edgelord79
Gold Member
Disappointing. What a great game.
More Marvel. Even more disappointing.
More Marvel. Even more disappointing.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
He sounded so sure of himself. I only know of this guy because we get threads on him.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
In the same way 2D games are relevant/necessary, so are linear games. The market clearly prefers open world despite the rare exception.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
I can't take anymore Marvel of Star Wars conveyor belt junk!
xrnzaaas
Member
No added stuff? The whole transport system was reworked, allowing to go back to older areas. New side missions aren't complete fillers and they allow to get more from the story. You have a new alternative ending (although I wish you wouldn't have to replay the game to watch it). Plus Isaac isn't a mute anymore, kind of a big deal regardless if you're a fan of this or not.
I can agree it wasn't worth full price for someone who knows the original very well, but it also isn't a remake completely lacking in terms of offering new content.
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Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
You're right - it's just that i included those new elements (tram traversal/backtrack etc) in the QoL category
The sub-missions...let's not kid ourselves Xmz, they were pure filler and nothing more.
Again, RE4Re added more things which completely change the gameplay if you so much decide to use them (like the knife parry etc).
Again, it wasn't bad, it's just that - IMO - it needed something more/more new additions, plus, regarding the price, i don't think it's as replayable as - again - Resi4 since that has also the mercenaries mode, Separate ways dlc etc.
Cheers
GudOlRub
Neo Member
Not necessarily. A game being cancelled is different from having never been worked on and guess which option looks worse for investors?
The first looks like it underperformed so EA gave up, the latter looks like the studio might have too much work on their hands after their announcement about Iron Man and Battlefield, so they don't have time to work on Dead Space.
So my hopium is that EA does not want journos spreading bullshit about a franchise that they might want to come back to in the future, hence why they shot down the rumour so quickly instead of simply ignoring it.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
To be fair, he is frequently wrong. But EA is frequently terrible and cancels games all the time. Like The Mandalorian.
Neon Xenon
Member
Yeah, this partly had me thinking that it was some sort of skeevy "test" to see if there was really interest in a Dead Space 2 Remake.
Which is assuming the worst, but, maybe that should be the default stance for this.
YeulEmeralda
Member
I thought that the Dead Space remake needlessly altered art and characters so I never bought it.
kiphalfton
Member
Fucking Callisto Protocol.
If that game sabotaged sales of Dead Space Remake, even more reason to hate that game.
MiguelItUp
Member
Schreier also came out saying the IP is "on hold", so I'm more so thinking Grubb isn't exactly wrong here. Unless what he said was maybe a little be more "dramatic" due to the verbiage he used. But come on, canceled and "on hold" probably isn't going to be much different when it comes to EA. If they were to do a sequel, it'd make sense to do it sooner than later.
What else was altered besides Nicole's model? I loved the original and loved the remake personally. It's a shame cause it's one of the best remakes out there IMO.
Sushi_Combo
Member
It's nice to see the publisher come out pretty quickly to confirm the inaccuracies.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Grubb really didn't get this wrong.
EA just running the most basic PR + your dislike of Grubb makes you believe he was wrong.
This is a nothingburger.
EA just running the most basic PR + your dislike of Grubb makes you believe he was wrong.
This is a nothingburger.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahshahahahahahahahahahhaha Grubb
Yonyx
Member
Grubb is not wrong.
He said the game was in concept phase, in preproduction phase. EA says it was not in development. Well, to be in development and to be in preproduction are different things.
The game was in concept phase and before the development began it was cancelled. The two (Grubb and EA) are stating the truth, the only thing is that EA is doing it in a twisted way to make the other guy look bad. But Grubb's information is still entirely true.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I've nothing against the remake, as long as it'll be on par with original and they're planning to completely rework Dead Space 3 after crash landing and will remove forced co-op from the game.
Dead Space 2 is pretty much perfect, I've little to no complaints about it, it even looks great today, despite being 14 yo game.
Dead Space 2 is pretty much perfect, I've little to no complaints about it, it even looks great today, despite being 14 yo game.
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Arachnid
Member
Lmao 1:1? Tell me you've never played the remake without telling me you've never played it. You have no idea what you're talking about.
The layout of the ENTIRE ship was redone to be interconnected and open, Isaac is fully voice acted, every character was fleshed out with more dialogue and backstory (vs 2 lines each in the original), side quests were added with more emphasis on backtracking/exploration, overhauled weapons with new secondary fire modes and hugely expanded skill trees, new twists added to the story, the ending expanded, new game plus adds new enemies and a new unlockable new ending, we got tons of new suit options, new bosses added, old bosses improved or changed, and revamped 0G. All that before we get to the technical aspects like the way the 10/10 sound design that propagates through halls/doors/vents, or the new necromorph peeling system that goes through layers of flesh/muscle/bone and actually impacts the damage you do, or the dynamic event system that change enemy layout or lighting/exploding vents so you're always on your toes.
All that but oooh nooo, no photo mode! It's basically DS 2008 with a shinier coat of paint (also, lmao @ acting like it isn't a significant jump in fidelity from the original)!
The Dead Space remake changed tons just like RE4, and it improved on the original so much that it made it obsolete. No RE game but RE1make managed to do that.
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Generic
Member
The co-op in Dead Space 3 is optional.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Time to edit the topic title again.
[Jason Schreier] ‘Dead Space’ Franchise Is Officially On Hold at Electronic Arts
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...hise-is-officially-on-hold-at-electronic-arts
From Twitter:
- Yes, Dead Space is now on ice once again
- EA's Motive explored ideas for a new entry early last year but none were greenlit
- Chief hope was for a new game, not a remake of Dead Space 2, despite today's rumors (although both ideas were explored)
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jakinov
Member
Heart_Attack
Member
Dead Space Remake was good, so of course EA had to cancel the sequel. lol.
Ribi
Member
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Biggest thing I recall were the enemy animations seemed ruined, technically proficient but “artificially smooth” if that makes sense and untrue to the original.
Hudo
Member
Dead Space 2 not having been in development is even worse...
EA got so many good IPs and they do absolutely nothing with them. Instead they shit out bad Battlefield games every now and then, have Respawn slave away on Apex Legends instead of letting them make Titanfall 3, demoted Criterion to some support studio while BioWare are fumbling around without knowing what they're doing.
The whole fucking company is hard carried by EA Sports and their absolutely degenerate microtransaction scheme.
That the Command & Conque Remastered Collection came to be must truly have been a miracle.
Looking at EA is so fucking frustrating. So much wasted potential.
EA got so many good IPs and they do absolutely nothing with them. Instead they shit out bad Battlefield games every now and then, have Respawn slave away on Apex Legends instead of letting them make Titanfall 3, demoted Criterion to some support studio while BioWare are fumbling around without knowing what they're doing.
The whole fucking company is hard carried by EA Sports and their absolutely degenerate microtransaction scheme.
That the Command & Conque Remastered Collection came to be must truly have been a miracle.
Looking at EA is so fucking frustrating. So much wasted potential.
GymWolf
Member
MonkeyClaw36
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YeulEmeralda
Member
At the risk of sounding like 4chan the changes that they made in the remake reeked of American culture war bullshit. Modern sensibilities and all that.