I know, but I have heard that this about the only avenue he has. Even though it is obvious that the guy knew what he was doing. I still think he is acting this way so he can try to plead insanity. Of course he does not stand a chance.
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I know, but I have heard that this about the only avenue he has. Even though it is obvious that the guy knew what he was doing. I still think he is acting this way so he can try to plead insanity. Of course he does not stand a chance.
SlowRevolution
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Wants to be famous, probably. He can't see how this plays out if he's dead.
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I think the answer to that is more complicated that some people here want to believe.
I mean people here are screaming at his fucking hair of all things. They don't want to accept that maybe yes, he became crazy, for whatever reason.
So he did his shooting, and then just waited next to his car, not knowing what else to do.
Well yeah, standard cheap 223 ammo is full jacketed steel ball. He would have killed more but possibly hit less people with a 223 in hollow point. (Less penetrating)
It's simply hard to imagine someone who is out of their mind that can plan out and scheme down to such detail the way this guy did. He graduated at the top of his class at the University of Riverside, Califorinia and was a canditate for a PHD at the University of Colorado in Neuroscience. I just don't see insanity here. This guy is not getting off for what he did like that, no way.
You can be insane and smart. Commonly people are. Not saying he is for sure insane but him being a PhD candidate and graduating at the top of the class is not proof he is not insane.
LOL, I am not buying it here. Let the piece of shit burn for what he did to those people.
I admit it - I searched GAF for posts about neuroscience, UC Riverside, moving to Aurora, and a few other things to see if he was a member. I didn't find anything.
There are plenty of bright people who are also mentally ill.
Graduating and entering a PhD program doesn't exclude people from the appearance of mental disorders. Plus with the large number of disorders and the fact that everything is a spectrum, you can't just assume a disorder removes peoples ability to think and plan.
People with mental disorders also generally don't look any different than any other human being, yet people always act surprised.
Nobody is buying anything. I'm just saying you would be hard pressed to use that as evidence in court. I never said he was insane.
Not sure what you're laughing at, what he said is entirely possible.
cpp_is_king
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The level of calculation and preparation going into the attack kind of goes head up in opposition against the definition of criminal insanity, however.
Ever heard of Ted Kaczynski?
Did you read my post. I never said he was insane. I said using him being smart as some sort of counter argument of insanity is weak at best.
Who has it actually worked for that was a mass killer? Hoping it doesn't work here, and I highly doubt it would. This wasn't a spur of the moment thing that's a product of a compromised psyche. It was carefully planned over months, and maybe years.
I gather, I just think he is a cold and scheming psychopath who had something make him finally snap and decide to take it out on innocent folks. His own mother has even made statements that she was expecting him to do something. She said, "You have the right guy" and "I knew it was him, even before it was announced." I'll grant you that he is sick, but he knew what he was doing. From the sound of it, his own mom is not surprised either.
Not true, some schizophrenics are delusional to point where they can justify anything they do.
Yeah, I think he knew what he was doing and isn't insane. He will spent rest of his life in jail. Obviously there was something wrong with him but I doubt he was medically insane.
Of course, he was a ceritified genius that was also a psychopath. Being a psychopath is different than psychosis and what is termed as insanity and not knowing any better. Such as Schizophrenia. Psychopaths know full well what they are doing and just don't give a shit.
Eh, most ammo used in any hunting rifle is 'armor piercing'. That's kind of a loaded term.
True.. Some in this thread seem to not know the difference between someone being a psychopath and insanity.
Psychopath is:
Insanity is:
So, a very high chance that this guy is a psychopath. Low possibility of insanity.
ElectricBlue187
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Must be the most disappointing mass murderer ever. Even Timothy McVeigh looks like a steely eyed monster next to this cipher
Lets say you have someone with a form of schizophrenia, with paranoia and grandiose delusions.
This person feels they are being persecuted by something, and they believe themselves to be important or someone they are not. This person could very well not mention any of these thoughts out of paranoia, yet go about stockpiling weapons and ammunition. All for a plan to end this persecution by carrying out an attack which they believe will target the persecutors and end it all.
This is just one way a single spectrum of one mental disorders could possibly lead to any sort of situation like this.
It's all well a good saying that people are acting insane to get out of it or knew what they did was wrong which may be true for some, but you are leaving other people vulnerable and liable to carry out these acts by ignoring real mental health care issues.
You need to have the appropriate push for mental health care so that issues are identified before things such as this occur, and mental health care is not as high priority as it should be.
Not often enough for anyone automatically believe that this guys going to be aquitted due to insanity.
And, in the States, it doesn't really matter if the defendant committed the crime in the spur of the moment with regards to the not guilty by reason of insanity thing. It would have to be proven that he was both mentally incompetent or mentally unstable, and it would have be proven that he didn't know he was doing something wrong. The "Will you visit me in jail?" banner he had on adultfriendfinder.com completely flies in the face of the last part.
NaturalHigh
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That hair screams Layne Staley to me.
I can't see if the link worked while I'm at work.
That hair screams Layne Staley to me.
I can't see if the link worked while I'm at work.
how dare you bring layne staley in to this....
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The Lamonster
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Yeah I really don't care what you want to call it. "Insane" or not, dude needs to pay.
DieNgamers
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That's why I don't get the Breivik comparison that's so popular these days. That guy looked like an ice-cold satisfied monster most of the time and the intent behind it seemed to be on another scale than this one. Both were so damn unnessecary, though.
Hurting random good people who never did anything to you is just an absurd and mean concept I can't wrap my head around.It's not the act that defines whether a person is sane and responsible or not.
Air Zombie Meat
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The only Breivik comparison I can see is the way he set a bomb to go off somewhere else at the same time.
SnakeswithLasers
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What does that even mean? At some point he can "pay" enough to "buy" the lives he took?
Being insane isn't "getting off" or "not a punishment". Prison isn't going to be any better than insanity. The death penalty isn't going to bring anybody back.
Majmun
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A total psychopath.
My nephew is a forensic psychologist. I talked with him about this case. Intelligence level has nothing to do when it comes to murdering people. There are serial killers who function very well in our society, are respected by others and have good jobs.
It's the lack of empathy that makes these people who they are. Not their intelligence level.
My nephew is a forensic psychologist. I talked with him about this case. Intelligence level has nothing to do when it comes to murdering people. There are serial killers who function very well in our society, are respected by others and have good jobs.
It's the lack of empathy that makes these people who they are. Not their intelligence level.
shira
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I'm a little curious. What do you mean study him - like opening up his brain?
Doing electroshock treatments on him?
Giving him standardized tests?
Using him to solve crimes?
Dark Stalkers
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What ever happened to the person(s) of interest?
What's your evidence that he is a psychopath other than that he killed a whole bunch of people? Was he humiliated and abused as a child?
Psychopathy is more commonly associated with serial killers, not mass-murderers, by the way.
teruterubozu
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Copycat incident averted in my neighborhood:
http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/2...eize-a-number-of-guns-from-Biddeford-manState
Fuck that!!! I ain't going to my local theater until metal detectors are in place.
http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/2...eize-a-number-of-guns-from-Biddeford-manState
Fuck that!!! I ain't going to my local theater until metal detectors are in place.
Koopakiller
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But it would be interesting to see if a lack of empathy is associated with intelligence level, or being a loner
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Not a copycat but fucked up nonetheless
teruterubozu
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OK not exactly copycat - but highly influenced???
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Hell yea..Definantely.
The Lamonster
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I'm just saying if the victims' families are hoping for capital punishment, and if pleading insanity means no death penalty, why disappoint these families with an insanity verdict?
ErasureAcer
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He purposely lived on Elm St. I bet. F'ed in the head.
Kibbles
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Since when can you bring backpacks in theaters?
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