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[RoboGeorgeForeman]

Damn, this dude is getting a thrashing from all angles. From Felicia White Knights, to angered females. Damn. Hate to be him right now. He seems to be holding up well tho'

If it wasn't for the whole firing thing I would be laughing at the absurdity of this whole fiasco if I were in his position.

But, honestly I don't care either way. I hadn't heard of the girl before this incident and I care even less about her now that I know who she is (same with the random schmo blogger).

 

[EscoBlades]

Wow, people are classifying what he said about this Felicia person as hate speech? Wow.

Anyone dumb enough to think that is just....in fact, i won't even go there.

 

[Kinyou]

This self-inflicted witch hunt for misogyny is getting stupid. Like Jaffe said, if girls want to prove their equal, then they can defend themselves. We sure as hell don't need $500k kickstarters to make a documentary about it, ffs.

Uh... where did that come from all of the sudden? The documentary is not about how game journalists treat women.

I gotta be honest, I always get these two people confused (and apparently they both have a huge fanbase):

They look the same to me. One of them is Veronica Belmont, btw.

Though I think Belmont doesn't even get a fraction of the hate that Felicia Day gets.

 

[KillerTravis]

Not the first time apparently

You are giving way too much importance to a random intern. There's a reason why he's PissedOffRyno, he just can't shut up.

 

[PrinceOfApathy]

Not the first time apparently

I have a little sister, and when she and her mass of friends get together to go to the beach, do their hair or go to the mall, and worse I have to drive the whole gang there. I can tell you, that is 100% true.

 

[Lancehead]

Not the first time apparently

So they still say at least 1000 words more than men that are possibly pertinent and give beneficial mental stimulation?

 

[Conciliator]

Well I basically I agree with the dude. I don't think Felicia Day has any substantial talent of note and is only 'famous' because her presence satisfies a certain unfulfilled void. That's fine though, I wouldn't say that she gets on my nerves particularly, and I wish her the best in her career and etc. etc..

When you are a public voice of a media company, you do have to be careful with what you say. I mean, it's really just general service industry 101. I think firing the dude as a response to this sole instance is absurd, but I don't know what his history with the company is.

 

[qcf x2]

Wow, people are classifying what he said about this Felicia person as hate speech? Wow.

Welcome to the modern day internet generation. Digital witch hunts.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

She must get tons of tweets similar to that every day.

It seems weird to single this guy out. I don't like how she had a friend do it on her behalf, though.

If you're not happy with something, ignore it or confront it head-on. Getting internet friends to defend you is kinda pathetic.

 

[suzu]

Where does it say she asked her friends to defend her or anything?

 

[dabig2]

But that's not what Jaffe or the guy you responded to are talking about. Jaffe wants to know why the white knights aren't inclined to support everyone being attacked. Why pick and choose based on looks and sex?

That's the thing, you can find plenty of examples that destroy this strawman. Anyone that is popular, whether they possess a vagina or not, will have legions of fans defending their honor.

See Chris Brown, Carmelo, Kobe, Amar'e, etc.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

You have to have something really wrong with you to behave like that.

 

[spirity]

That's the thing, you can find plenty of examples that destroy this strawman. Anyone that is popular, whether they possess a vagina or not, will have legions of fans defending their honor.

See Chris Brown, Carmelo, Kobe, Amar'e, etc.

mgs4, ff13, blizzard....

 

[Cursed Frogurt]

That's the thing, you can find plenty of examples that destroy this strawman. Anyone that is popular, whether they possess a vagina or not, will have legions of fans defending their honor.

See Chris Brown, Carmelo, Kobe, Amar'e, etc.

And they're as hypocritical as Jaffe is saying the Day white knights are.

mgs4, ff13, blizzard....

Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony.

 

[Lancehead]

I have a little sister, and when she and her mass of friends get together to go to the beach, do their hair or go to the mall, and worse I have to drive the whole gang there. I can tell you, that is 100% true.

The women under 30 I'm acquainted with resemble nothing of his stupid conclusions at all. His words are plain insulting.

She must get tons of tweets similar to that every day.

It seems weird to single this guy out. I don't like how she had a friend do it on her behalf, though.

If you're not happy with something, ignore it or confront it head-on. Getting internet friends to defend you is kinda pathetic.

Where did you get the idea that Day asked her friend to defend?

 

[atheistium]

To be fair, if you're interning at a games blog that comments on games culture and video games then you kinda should know who Felicia Day is.

I don't think he should have been fired but an apology should have been issues and Dtoid should have been more diplomatic. Think they were too quick to fire him.

Not that I'm condoning his words. He said a stupid thing. Dtoid staff have said a lot of stupid shit though. Jim Sterling basically said Konami was falling apart and called some girl a feminazi but he's kept his job.

I just think that Dtoid has a lot of sexist bullcrap on their website and it's a bit weird for them to jump on the feminism train.

Guy said stupid shit about a girl with a lot of twitter followers. White knights at the ready!

 

[Yaboosh]

She must get tons of tweets similar to that every day.

It seems weird to single this guy out. I don't like how she had a friend do it on her behalf, though.

If you're not happy with something, ignore it or confront it head-on. Getting internet friends to defend you is kinda pathetic.

The stupid in this post is overwhelming.

 

[GrizzNKev]

I appreciate the title change.

 

[Nibel]

I appreciate the title change.

Me too

Can we agree that the dude needs to get laid way more? Where's Dating-Age

 

[bangai-o]

The community is growing up.

neogaf?bwahahhhaaa!

 

[Takuan]

Perhaps they were waiting for a reason to can him? Doesn't exactly sound like a thrill to work with or to even be around.

 

[WyndhamPrice]

Why in the world would you shit-talk Wil Wheaton?

 

[Meicyn]

Well, I found the context of the tweet, and I think that Sterling is quite justified:

From here: http://www.auntiepixelante.com/?p=912

He was definitely justified. Anytime you're in a one-on-one personal argument with somebody, you always go for blood. Being politically correct is the last thing on your mind.

I'm always reminded of this bit from Chris Rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we-zND9Ihes#t=1m12s

 

[PrinceOfApathy]

Why in the world would you shit-talk Wil Wheaton?

My take on it; he's trying to be the video-game equivalent of George Carlin; just not with the fame to back up his off the wall comments.

 

[Eidan]

Felicia Day is one of the least offensive personalities out there. Not sure why anyone would have issues with her.

I also don't think her "worth" to gaming would even be considered if she were a man.

 

[MisterHero]

Nothing against Felicia Day but her role in a Zelda parody wasn't that funny

probably because the whole thing wasn't funny

She's probably very nice otherwise

 

[Count Dookkake]

.

 

[Shurs]

Felicia Day is one of the least offensive personalities out there. Not sure why anyone would have issues with her.

I also don't think her "worth" to gaming would even be considered if she were a man.

I think it has to do with her persona being built upon geek cliches.

 

[Dany]

What a dumb way to loose your job. Dude is an idiot because he still can't shut his mouth.

 

[Cursed Frogurt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we-zND9Ihes#t=1m12s

Thanks for that. That was great. Must be from one of his specials that I missed.

 

[Adam Prime]

What is Felicia Day?

 

[Eidan]

I think it has to do with her persona being built upon geek cliches.

I think the problem is because she's a woman who built her persona upon geek cliches.

 

[PrinceOfApathy]

Felicia Day is one of the least offensive personalities out there. Not sure why anyone would have issues with her.

I also don't think her "worth" to gaming would even be considered if she were a man.

I've seen a few videos of her after learning of the debacle, she's quite offensive in a non-offensive way, but what do I know? I'm a cynical dinosaur, everyone likes something, some people think Tyler Perry's movies are funny ( before you guys even go there, there are many in the African American community that look down on his work as buffoonery and exploitation ), but it is what it is.

To me, his only mistake was making more than one comment, leave a broad sweeping random generalisation and be done, he packed on two or three more than necessary.

 

[Deified Data]

No great love for Felicia Day, but what's this guy's problem? Apology or no, what was he trying to prove? How much does he think he contributes to gaming culture? Petty? Yes. Childish? Yes. Misogynistic? Yeah, probably.

 

[Dany]

What is Felicia Day?

Daughter of Thurs Day and Satur Day

 

[Eidan]

I've seen a few videos of her after learning of the debacle, she's quite offensive in a non-offensive way, but what do I know? I'm a cynical dinosaur, everyone likes something, some people think Tyler Perry's movies are funny ( before you guys even go there, there are many in the African American community that look down on his work as buffoonery and exploitation ), but it is what it is.

To me, his only mistake was making more than one comment, leave a broad sweeping random generalisation and be done, he packed on two or three more than necessary.

What offended you?

 

[Adam Prime]

After reading this thread...

it just confirms that I've always thought that Twitter is fucking a middle schooler passing notes in class. What the fuck, how does anyone even read Twitter? It's a freaking mess, everyone writes like they are a damn 13 year old girl.

Seriously, people get what they get for even Tweeting their bullshit on Twitter. I don't even know why anyone professional would even have an account.

 

[Cursed Frogurt]

I think the problem is because she's a woman who built her persona upon geek cliches.

Doubt it. Sounds like he'll go after anyone for any reason.

What offended you?

That she got the voice-over job on New Vegas over someone that could have done a good job with it. And I'm just going to assume she got the job because she's Felicia Day, not because she's a good voice-over actress (she's not). Not really offended, but annoyed. She was bad. Hiring on name/reputation alone happens across both genders though, and it's equally lame.

 

[Deified Data]

Everyone knows who Felicia Day is. I don't understand why people pretend not to. Is it to convince GAF that you're cooly detached and above such things?

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

The women under 30 I'm acquainted with resemble nothing of his stupid conclusions at all. His words are plain insulting.

Are you honestly getting offended over someone suggesting girls talk more than boys?

 

[Shurs]

I think the problem is because she's a woman who built her persona upon geek cliches.

I dunno.

You see the same sort of dislike on GAF for stuff like The Big Bang Theory.

 

[Dr. Pangloss]

I don't really care about the issue one way or the other, but why did he have to single her out? The OP states that no incident occurred for him to go after her. I'm sure there are a ton of people that don't really contribute to the gaming industry in a meaningful way, but why single her out? Just seems like a dick move to me and a stupid thing to argue about. Maybe he feels inferior some way.

Edit: Why is Day at the top of the list of people who supposedly don't contribute to gaming and needs to be brought down a peg or two?

 

[Lancehead]

Are you honestly getting offended over someone suggesting girls talk more than boys?

He said a lot more than that.

 

[Mumei]

I have a little sister, and when she and her mass of friends get together to go to the beach, do their hair or go to the mall, and worse I have to drive the whole gang there. I can tell you, that is 100% true.

He was saying that not just about young teenagers who still need their older brother to drive them, but also about women in their 20s. And inane chatter is something that nearly all children and younger teenagers share; it isn't peculiar to girls.

He was definitely justified. Anytime you're in a one-on-one personal argument with somebody, you always go for blood. Being politically correct is the last thing on your mind.

I'm always reminded of this bit from Chris Rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we-zND9Ihes#t=1m12s

I disagree, at least in the context this conversation took place in. I can understand becoming angry and saying something mean or hurtful out of a desire to hurt someone when you're in an argument in person. But I don't understand that when it happens online. When you're having an argument online, you have as long as you want to stop and think about what message you are sending out. You can choose your words carefully, so that whatever you say should be how you wanted to say it. If you're that angry that you want to insult someone like that - and I know the feeling - you need to step back and wait until you're in a better place to respond well.

And if the other person is being unreasonable or failing to reciprocate your decency, better to just drop it and move on.

Spoiler

Why is your kitten not in your profile picture?

 

[RoboGeorgeForeman]

Everyone knows who Felicia Day is. I don't understand why people pretend not to. Is it to convince GAF that you're cooly detatched and above such things?

Is she really this famous? I honestly didn't know who she was until someone mentioned a couple of videos she was in. The videos weren't even that great. Why am I expected to know who she was?

 

[victreeb3l]

Though I think Belmont doesn't even get a fraction of the hate that Felicia Day gets.

isnt veronica belmont just a journalist? i think a lot of felicia days hate comes from her goofy videos or whatever else she does in addition to hosting shows

that ryan dudes comments were unnecessary but gaming journalists *shrug*

 

[Eidan]

I dunno.

You see the same sort of dislike on GAF for stuff like The Big Bang Theory.

Fair point. I'm just used to gamers harshly criticizing any female personality who expresses a genuine interest in gaming. Women have to somehow work harder to prove their authenticity. I wonder if anyone ever questioned Adam Sessler's authenticity or worth. They certainly questioned Morgan Webb''s.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Felicia Day is one of the least offensive personalities out there. Not sure why anyone would have issues with her.

I also don't think her "worth" to gaming would even be considered if she were a man.

lol, literally every time IGN or Kotaku write an article you'll get pages and pages of people shitting on the person who wrote it and whatnot. People call out men at all the time for tons of random shit. It just doesn't get noticed as a big deal because it's so normal.

I don't agree with his wording, and he sounds like a dumb dude for continuing to talk shit, but I don't "get" Day either, same way I don't "get" Chobot. But hey I can't even lie, if I could get their jobs (whatever their jobs are, I don't follow them enough to know these days), I'd do it in a heartbeat.*

*note, I was going to say "but I'm probably not cute enough" at the end of that statement but I didn't want GAF to flip out. Also I definitely am cute enough, so it would have been a lie

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

He said a lot more than that.

He didn't have the best choice of words, obviously, but it's just... kinda mind-blowing to see someone act like girls don't have a tendency to talk everyone around them's heads off. Not always, of course - have to have that disclaimer - but yeah, they kinda do.


ahem, but man, the guy just comes out swinging every time he's mad about something. He's gotta slow his roll, and quick.

 

[Emitan]

isnt veronica belmont just a journalist? i think a lot of felicia days hate comes from her goofy videos or whatever else she does in addition to hosting shows

that ryan dudes comments were unnecessary but gaming journalists *shrug*

All I know about Belmont is she has a sci fi and fantasy novel podcast I've listened to a few times and like.

He didn't have the best choice of words, obviously, but it's just... kinda mind-blowing to see someone act like girls don't have a tendency to talk everyone around them's heads off. Not always, of course - have to have that disclaimer - but yeah, they kinda do.

"Not always, of course - have to have that disclaimer - but yeah, they kinda do." is basically destroying your entire point. SOME GIRLS talk a lot, others don't. I'm introverted so I'm never going to. Stop making ignorant blanket statements about half the population.