-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
GWENT closed beta now underway
- Thread starter poppedcollar69
- Start date
Led_Zeppelin
Member
It seems like they are screwing a lot of cards. Damn now everyone will have a Dimeritium bomb for the end, and I just got Lugos on a Free Keg... god damn it.
Also while I like the idea of Philippa not hurting gold units, that means that it is open season for rush-promote decks again and never ever passing on the first round against a NR player and for the love of god, you better have Scorch, Geralt Igni or Dimeritium bomb.
Also priestess of Freya not being able to resurrect each other is bullshit, it completely fucks up how Skellige is played, specially with the nerf of the shieldsmith as well.
This type of nerf will only hurt new players since this 2 units are essential for new Skellige Players, while I don't care since I think I have 3 of every Bronze unit in all the decks so I could build a new deck with no problems but for new players now it will be impossible for them to win as Skellige against other decks on the last rounds.
Also while I like the idea of Philippa not hurting gold units, that means that it is open season for rush-promote decks again and never ever passing on the first round against a NR player and for the love of god, you better have Scorch, Geralt Igni or Dimeritium bomb.
Also priestess of Freya not being able to resurrect each other is bullshit, it completely fucks up how Skellige is played, specially with the nerf of the shieldsmith as well.
This type of nerf will only hurt new players since this 2 units are essential for new Skellige Players, while I don't care since I think I have 3 of every Bronze unit in all the decks so I could build a new deck with no problems but for new players now it will be impossible for them to win as Skellige against other decks on the last rounds.
Fata1moose
Banned
Glad monsters can't keep gold cards on the board. Playing Geralt and then passing on the opening to me was getting old, it never works that well anyway.
Led_Zeppelin
Member
I usually played a Geralt or Eredin and basically storm the board with weather making my opponent waste card or gold cards. Now it seems like Weather decks recived a huge nerf along NR in general.
Not to mention the shieldsmith nerf kills mork and roach in skell.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Hope they give full refunds on all changed cards :-x
Exentryk
Member
NR's faction ability will also get countered by Dbomb. This would be the only faction ability that could be cancelled, and it seems unfair. They should change NR's faction ability and make it an increase of 2 to base strength when goldening cards.
Lol, no.
Lol, no.
Exentryk
Member
Till early next year so yea.
BizzyBum
Member
I'll take it. lol
Unfortunately I already used it and played for a few minutes before just stopping. I am sure I'll get back to it.
Exentryk
Member
Actually, DBomb may not work against promote tactics, since promotion changes base strength of the card. Dbomb will likely just remove the +2 golden buff and leave the card at 100 or whatever it was buffed to.
A simpler solution would have been to add demote cards that changed cards from Gold to Silver/Bronze. (This would become OP for Sco or other factions)
Let's see how this shakes out, but for now, continue on with buffing strats.
Let's see how this shakes out, but for now, continue on with buffing strats.
toastyToast
Member
Buff strats + Philippa is still gonna be bullshit. Buff the hell out of units to bait it out, or bait it out with Philippa and do the other. People are gonna have start using weather.
An Craite Raider gets played when it would have been discarded, this prevented it from interacting with cards that did something when you discarded a card like dimun pirate captain or that one boat card.
now you get to put your 4 power into play and trigger those effects.
Damn that's a pretty decent buff.
poppedcollar69
Member
patch still not live?
toastyToast
Member
Looks like someone's plan borkhfired.
poppedcollar69
Member
fyi this card isnt affected by weather when revealed!!
fyi this card isnt affected by weather when revealed!!
It will be in a couple days when the patch hits.
poppedcollar69
Member
ug medic rez chains needs ta go already
edit: EVERY FUCKIN TIME 'oh i can win if they just don't have restoration' Fdsifbasdidfbks
edit2: EVERY. FUCKING. TIME holdys fthis im sjust onwe win away frm the dnabgbkfgba
edit3: im only in round 2 of this game but i can guarantee you it's happening again
edit4: THERE IT IS
edit5: thank FUCKING god playing against a monster deck FUCK
edit: EVERY FUCKIN TIME 'oh i can win if they just don't have restoration' Fdsifbasdidfbks
edit2: EVERY. FUCKING. TIME holdys fthis im sjust onwe win away frm the dnabgbkfgba
edit3: im only in round 2 of this game but i can guarantee you it's happening again
edit4: THERE IT IS
edit5: thank FUCKING god playing against a monster deck FUCK
Atanascovich
Member
Got my invite and played 3 games.... boring.
But why? I loved that game on W3.
But why? I loved that game on W3.
toastyToast
Member
I don't know how you could say it's boring when there are a way more moving parts compared to The Witcher 3 version. Do you have any specific criticisms?
Took me awhile to understand what's going on and a great way to end a match.
Exentryk
Member
Milled Francesca and got 200 scraps. Will replace her with Eithne for the same 200 scraps when the patch hits.
In the mean time, I got to 800 scraps and crafted Decoy. Really really good investment! The turn advantage is great, but it also gives you a lot more flexibility with NR, as you can use an extra medic, or reaver scout or Dandelion.
Lmao, well done! I love messing with B3J. Turn it silver on the last count and it'll burn itself. Or promote your strongest cards and he'll burn his own cards, lol. Or since I use Radovid, I also have the option of killing it outright (non-NR opponent).
EDIT - Patch is out:
EDIT 2 - When picking cards from a keg, you now can see if you own the card or not.
In the mean time, I got to 800 scraps and crafted Decoy. Really really good investment! The turn advantage is great, but it also gives you a lot more flexibility with NR, as you can use an extra medic, or reaver scout or Dandelion.
Looks like someone's plan borkhfired.
Lmao, well done! I love messing with B3J. Turn it silver on the last count and it'll burn itself. Or promote your strongest cards and he'll burn his own cards, lol. Or since I use Radovid, I also have the option of killing it outright (non-NR opponent).
EDIT - Patch is out:
EDIT 2 - When picking cards from a keg, you now can see if you own the card or not.
toastyToast
Member
Nice. I didn't expect the patch so soon. I would have milled a couple leaders
Led_Zeppelin
Member
I was saying good bye to my skellige deck. I am gonna miss buff my priestess of Freya with ShieldSmiths for 2 rounds and then storm the 3rd round with priestess over 7 or 11 while playing a 11-15 Skirmisher. I loved you Skellige you were much more fun to play than other decks even if you weren't that flexible.
If I leave the game Open forever, will the update install itself?
If I leave the game Open forever, will the update install itself?
toastyToast
Member
Bought King Bran because I've been meaning to for a while. Why would anyone use this thing? Auto card disadvantage. Should give 1 card of your choice and another random one.
Led_Zeppelin
Member
If you combine him with the craite raiders and ships and pirates you actually don't lose card advantage.
Do you think shieldsmiths are terrible now? Doesn't this mean mork is unplayable too?
edit: It's nice that they buffed cerys but honestly it doesn't feel good enough, you have to devote 3 other cards to her.
I might try Bran a bit more in new skell because lugos isn't good anymore and I don't mind discarding quensguard. It will at least guarantee I see all the cards in my deck if the last 50/50 draw doesn't go my way.
Led_Zeppelin
Member
The nerf on the shieldsmiths was brutal, because they were viable for first round and second round as well, I used to discard my skirmishers and then bail them out and then use the shieldsmiths on my priestess knowing that I will be able to medic her out later. Personally I think the buff on the discards decks aren't that great, specially when resurrecting units is the key ability of Skellige.
Discard decks are also awesome, I build a 25-27 cards deck (without Bran, otherwise I would add some more units) and I usually have almost all my units in the deck by the end of the 3rd round which basically gave Lugos a raging buff, sadly that tactic has died now.
I am going to test out the rush promote strategy now, lets see if CDPR completely fucked up this one, since at least you had a chances against this when being NR now it seems like only Dijkstra + Igni/Geralt could work and that is if the other player decided to buff the cards evenly and didn't save up a final buff to leave them not vulnerable to scorch.
toastyToast
Member
The shieldsmiths feel negligible now. Basically there to avoid scorch
Definitely but like I said, scorch protection since Skellige doesn't have any other uneven buffs it can provide unlike NR. I'm finding I can still do a whole lot of reviving with Restoration/Sigrfrida/Decoy. The +2 to original strength from Restoration is surprisingly nice to have. You can a short chain with either Restoration or Sig then Decoy one of the medics and do it again. To be fair you can do this before but it seems more valuable now. Decoy is just super flexible in general. Don't know how I lived without it.
Played six or seven games post patch and only lost once with my boring boats and pirates Skellige build. It's consistent but sleep inducing. Really wanna try the discard with Cerys but the lack of weather immunity hard is hard to deal with. Even just the pirates manhandle Monster weather deck. It's awesome.
Definitely but like I said, scorch protection since Skellige doesn't have any other uneven buffs it can provide unlike NR. I'm finding I can still do a whole lot of reviving with Restoration/Sigrfrida/Decoy. The +2 to original strength from Restoration is surprisingly nice to have. You can a short chain with either Restoration or Sig then Decoy one of the medics and do it again. To be fair you can do this before but it seems more valuable now. Decoy is just super flexible in general. Don't know how I lived without it.
Played six or seven games post patch and only lost once with my boring boats and pirates Skellige build. It's consistent but sleep inducing. Really wanna try the discard with Cerys but the lack of weather immunity hard is hard to deal with. Even just the pirates manhandle Monster weather deck. It's awesome.
Justice_Bolt
Member
I don't know how people can come up with this. It's the same game but with more depth.
toastyToast
Member
Oh yeah, do the cards in the collection look blurrier now or is it just me?
I guess but it completely destroys the mork/roach deck that didn't care about getting scorched at all. It was so fun.
edit: This patch killed all the fun I had with skell. I really don't care about the pirates and ships discard effect.
toastyToast
Member
sackboy2197
Member
I think I read that when a unit is promoted its current strength becomes its base strength. Which doesn't make sense really, I hope they'll change it. As it is, you either bomb before they promote (but they could easily buff them again) or you don't use it and it's the same as before the patch.
Led_Zeppelin
Member
I just had a poor soul test it, yeah it is only the +2 of the promotion. IT IS INSANE! Guess I will leave the game for a while if people start to abuse this again, since it isn't fun to basically just throw cards to see if the NR player is going for the rush promote bullshit (now even bigger bullshit) , because if you were playing NR, you could always use Phillipa, now if you don't have Dimeritium Bomb or Geralt Igni and Scorch, you are shit out of luck, specially if you build an offensive deck.