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Halo 5: Guardians |OT5| Is HaloGAF irrelevant now?
- Thread starter sir_dany12
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7 years later this myth still goin'
Partially related: I still wonder where the original Cage would have been in campaign. Was it a campaign mission that was cut? Was it in a mission that still exists, but that portion of the mission was cut? Is it still in campaign somewhere?
Probably during that bit with the Bullfrogs.
Forgot about that part. I was leaning towards something like Ivory Tower, where it was one of New Alexandria's towers, but yours makes more sense.
Yeah, he should have done it a long time ago. ESL is making a mockery out of Halo esports.
Sad but his heart hasn't been in it for quite a while and he has been greatly surpassed by his peers as a result. Hope to see him return for halo 6.
It's not even just ESL, design decisions, terrible deals with TOs, and self imposed technical limitations have been taking a toll on halo esports since Reach. H5 is really fun to watch, but the potential of the league held back in uneccisary ways.
He, like a lot of pros, seem to be playing out of habit lately. It was also sad to see Snakebite, Snipedown, and pistola all say they wish they wouldn't switched to COD yesterday.
I think Ninja was still playing at really high level in H5. It's pretty crazy that he did so well considering he played H1Z1 and PUB competitively at the same time. I think H6 will have to be an amazing PC game for him to come back.
I refuse to believe sword base was designed as a MP map first.
it's basically Boarding Action but smaller
Boneyard is the only map that started as a campaign space and was converted to MP later, to make up for another MP map that got cut late in development.
Oddly enough Invasion maps I didn't mind, but most of the MP maps that came with the base game just felt....meh.
imo Halo 2 still had the top tier maps (minus Backwash) but I would also say Halo Reach and 4 were pretty close to each other for bottom tier, even then though Halo 5 goes to the bottom in visual design alone sadly even though the play ability is pretty good.
Samurai G0SU
Member
I enjoyed H2 mp and H5 arena mp over the rest. shoot me.
h2 before the modding and insta spawn in air and all that dumb stuff.
The only fun time I had joining a modded game was when someone modded Containment so you could fly on the Specter turrets and he was actually playing along with everyone else lol
I feel the same way.
Fata1moose
Banned
Halo 2 and Halo 5 4v4 is Halo multiplayer at it's best for both old and new. Halo 3 and 4 are examples of bad classic and bad new Halo respectively. Though I'll take Halo 3 over 4 and Reach.
VincentMatts
Member
Oh please. Battlefield games dont even have a god damn a story and COD pretty much do whatever they want at each release. They've basically gotten the fans used to being able to do something different every time with COD and BF. Halo has not which is why people get their panties up in a bunch when it doesn't play exactly the same every time.
Reach was Bungies way of doing something different since they didn't want (or couldn't) take on the chief story-line as their last hurrah. And im totally ok with that when its not the CHIEF. Hence, a side story. When Chief is involved and its a numbered sequel, there are higher expectations.
:/ I much preferred the way Reach played(without any of the armor abilities except sprint)was perfectly fine with bloom, and especially appreciated the return of health packs.
It's selection of maps kinda sucked is all.
Still hard to go back to it due to that TAA/motion blur that I can't really stand.
Reach was a mainrelease and on the schedule of their normal Halo series. ODST is more of a spinoff or Halo Wars.
And even if not I still would count Halo Reach because only the story would be a SpinOff no reason to fuck up the multiplayer especially when it was not TOO far from being Haloish.
if it would have been a third person shooter, tactical shooter or something it would be different
EvilChameleon
Member
Imagine a game set during the Flood-Forerunner war, ending with the firing of the Halos.
I would like this.
Well they have got three incredible books in the forerunner saga, they are certainly not going to be able to write anything better than Greg Bear. So they might as well use it as the bases of a spin off, you could do a really cool RPG with the Forerunners in terms of mechanics and progression. A whole ancient human story line would be cool.
Fata1moose
Banned
I love how people are waving their hand at Reach's map selection. It's a huge component of Halo and Reach had by far the worst 4v4 map selection in the series. Including the DLC, Powerhouse, Countdown and Condemed were the only decent maps.
Forerunner
Member
SWORD BASE
Prinz Eugn
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SlipperyMoose
Member
I'm silver 6 now and working my way to gold. I am approving and going positive most games. I need a team though. There have been a couple of games where myself and another will do decent and then another guy goes 4 and 12 or something.
Fata1moose
Banned
...Was complete garbage. That's without factoring in the lift room shenanigans.
Lol, whatever you say.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
On the discussion of mainline Halo games vs spinoffs, can't a mainline game also be a spinoff?
Regardless, whether or not you consider Reach a spinoff, it is still a mainline Halo game.
Regardless, whether or not you consider Reach a spinoff, it is still a mainline Halo game.
Yup, since December of last year.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Sure for 4v4 it was limited but these maps in other modes were *in Sarge's voice - pretty good:
-Breakpoint
-Boneyard
-Highlands
-Ridgeline
These were good for 4v4:
-Boardwalk (ctf/assault)
-Anchor 9 was alright for slayer and a little ctf
-Tempest (ctf/assault)
Firefight special mentions:
-Installation 04 and Beachhead were the hot shit
Deputy Moonman
Member
Well CoD is still CoD. It is so weird that halo has to try and be something different with every new game. 343 could have literally done a spiritual successor to either halo 1 2 or 3, with no changes to anything but graphics, and people would have been happy. But the game always has to be "different". I can play almost any of the CoD games and at the very least know what to expect with respect to movement, aim, the general feel of each weapon and combat. Thats partially because ADS doesnt require a lot of tinkering, but still. With each new halo game it's like, "welp I wonder they've gone and tinkered with this time that was completely unnecessary," or, "I wonder how much they've changed the game this time." That kind of thing just doesn't go over very well with most fans.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
My favorite argument that I've seen even on gaming side is that the first game was called "combat evolved" and therefore should evolve. Not only is that really daft logic, Microsoft forced that subtitle onto it and Bungie didn't want it. Lol
Weren't the sight lines terrible even for 4v4?
EvilChameleon
Member
Big Team Battle is only meh in this game because 343 thought it would be wise to not make any maps of their own for the mode.
Man, whenever I think of their map strategy for this game I get angry. It's just offensive. Don't want to make big maps? Fine, whatever. But then duplicating 6 of the maps with just scenery changes? Ugh.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
I/parties enjoyed CTF & assault on this map. Sight lines for slayer were pretty horrible though, very lopsided games were common. The 1 sided objective games worked really well e.g. tons of games that were nail biters to the last round. It was clearly designed for objective flows.
This video reminded me of how nuts the next Halo's forge mode could be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4rIW-w0_DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4rIW-w0_DI
LOL its easy to say that but in 2013-2014 when a lot of Halo pros tried to compete in COD most of them failed except for Formal and Enable. Cod isn't easier and the competition is harder than Halo due to the amount of players. I doubt Snakebite would leave Halo wheres hes made over a million to try and compete in COD. Same goes for the other two. I guarantee they wouldn't be making as much as they make in Halo.
So they didn't find immediate success means they would never have found success? Logic checks out...
They are saying the regret not giving it more effort or sticking with. It's not neccisarily all about the prize winnings (YouTube, streams, sponsorships, etc), and you don't have to be on a top 8 team to make money in COD- a perk of being in a more popular and better run league.
Snakebites winnings are an outlier compared to the rest of HCS. The fact that one of the most accomplished players would say he regrets not switching suggest that the structural stability is attractive.
Fata1moose
Banned
We still have another full year of Halo 5.
I wish they'd support it with developer maps.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
We still have another full year of Halo 5.
Don't think of it that way... We have COD WW2, Destiny 2, Battlefront 2, Wolfenstein 2, PUBG, Mario Odyssey, and much more. Lol
ZeezbruhTV
Member
We still have another full year of Halo 5.
lol shit will get bad.
Fata1moose
Banned
Well at least we have Wolfenstein and Mario I guess.