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Halo 5 Launch Day Multiplayer Playlist Revealed
- Thread starter jbug617
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BTB sucks more often than not. Arena is where it's at
Its Quite Toasty
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i think population might beg to differ
By that logic, call of duty is the best game ever made
Its Quite Toasty
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definitely not what i said bruh. simply mean that if it sucked more often than not it wouldn't have the population that it keeps.
ViewtifulJC
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but Call of Duty tho
Captainbojanglesiii
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CTF may get its own thing later. That's what happened with Halo 4
Its Quite Toasty
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its not a bad game.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Ol No Bones
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I'm not gonna disagree completely but BTB is great for having some vehicle fun and having more lighthearted "oh snap" moments. When my friends want something a little less competitive we jump to custom games or BTB most the time.
VincentMatts
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BTB is the most fun ive had in Halo. CTF or Neutral Assault in BTB was crazy fun.
Leyasu
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Lol
User 73706
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The poo is what powers the fusion reactor in every MJOLNIR suit. This is why Chief, in his old age, learned how to sprint in Halo 4. Tapioca has an extensive deuterium half-life.
Cool. Thanks for the reply.
I could be misremembering, but I seem to remember that map/gametype selection is similar to Halo 2, where the player doesn't choose or veto. Is that correct? If that's true (and it might not be), how do you gather info on what are popular maps and gametypes?
VlaudTheImpaler
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First, they survey large groups of Beliebers via punched cards. 343 then summons the spirit of Edward Mordrake by performing a playtest on Halloween. A Belieber is chosen as a sacrifice and his punched card is removed from the test pool. The hanging chads are then counted, categorized and entered into a complex algorithm machine which is fueled only by the tears of the Gaf community which were collected by Stinkles.
Hell yes. Especially if you're in a small group. Just a lot more strategy there with being able to use callouts know where everyone is, etc.
To people who like BTB. I get why BTB is fun because of the vehicles and more stuff to shoot. I just don't find it as compelling competitively and if I'm playing by myself or in a small group it definitely feels like a mess.
VincentMatts
Member
It doesn't feel at all like a mess. CTF for example is usually completely balanced. Power weapons spawn at neutral locations (just like regular halo) and vehicles are the same on both sides. Its arena, only bigger. Usually.
Honestly, BTB didn't get so popular until Halo was ruined by Loadouts... 4v4 just didn't work right anymore after that...
I never could get into BTB, because generally, most of my team wouldn't give a shit about winning ...
I think btb has always been popular.
I'm not saying it was ever unpopular. I'm saying it increased in popularity when Loadouts were introduced... And team slayer lost a lot of ground...
VincentMatts
Member
Not really, as far as i can remember, the populations were always high in BTB, even in halo2.
Welfare
Member
Yeah it's been in the top 3 playlists since Halo 3 at least.
And this is also true. After a certain point in time, BTB took over Team Slayer. Even in Reach, Team Slayer was always above BTB.
Twilight Gap
Member
the good maps were all BTB maps
I remember Team Slayer being far and away the most popular mode in Halo2...
I think in H4 there rolls were flipped...
Maybe I'm tripping
AllIsOneIsNone
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That's because BTB was never really competitive, and Infinity Slayer ruined arena, therefore everyone moved to the one with more shit packed in.
Yeah this is how I remember it... Again, I'm not saying BTB was ever unpopular ... I'm saying historically, it wasn't the most popular... In Halo2-3 it wasn't even close iirc
But it gain popularity once Loadouts were introduced... It over took Slayer sometime after Reach launch (I think)... And with H4 it was always the more popular mode.
I think it's because Loadouts ruined 4v4...
This.
And also Infinity Big Team from Halo 4 was best big team...ever
AllIsOneIsNone
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It was pretty fun, but kind of in the way Battlefront is fun to me. Didn't have any lasting power but it was still fun to hop on and cause some mayhem every once in a while.
Now I wish I had spent more time in H4s BTB. I was so mystified at how Loadouts and ordinance ruined 4v4 (or was it 5v5), that it never dawned on me that those things would work well in BTB...
Never was a BTB guy, because I hated that most people didn't care to win... But ordinance drops would have made the mayhem glorious.
I just stopped playing the game altogether...
That's why I really like 6v6 halo. Not too crazy, but there is still vehicles and it's not too serious. Squad Slayer or CTF on Valhalla in Halo 3 with some friends has always been what real halo should feel like to me.
VincentMatts
Member
No it was way before that. I remember BTB being very popular and the games even showed you the amount of people in each of the playlists. It was always high.
Deputy Moonman
Member
BTB hasnt been as fun since Halo 2. There was a time in Halo 2 where BTB was ranked. If you could get above a certain rank you ended up playing with and against people who cared about winning. Those were some of the best games I've ever had in Halo and then Bungie pulled the plug and turned it into a social playlist where everyone was more interested in kill totals and screwing around in vehicles instead. Ruined BTB forever. Such is life.
link1201
Member
I believe BTB is to be ranked again in H5.
whut whut whut? that would be incredible awesome
All Arena playlists are ranked.
No splitscreen = no more Guest accounts, after all
link1201
Member
It's naming a specific playlist "Team Arena" that has confused people I think, myself included.
I'm very excited about this. The ranking in the beta worked well for me. A lot of close games once I got my ranking.
It may have fit you4 definition of "high" but it wasn't the most popular playlist in 2 or 3.
That was reserved for Team Slayer. And If we combined all 4v4 modes, that player count was clearly favored over BTB.
Not until post launch reach did BTB take the number one spot... And Halo4 is the first game where it launched as the highest...
I Could never get a decent ranking... Maybe if I could have gotten enough friends in a full party... But even going in with 4 pals, we were always teamed with 4 idiots more content with betraying over who gets the ghost rather than completing objectives...
They suck at curating their games, look at MCC's playlists. Sure the game was a piece of shit but do we really need a Snipers playlist and and Action Sack with a bunch of Sniper gametypes? Sooooo dumb.
I like slayer but I play Halo for fun objective game types so these playlists are disappointing.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Nah, Halo 4 had CTF from the get go, it always remained somewhat popular. Basically a real CTF and bomb only playlist would sustain itself but I get they want Warzone to have its time in the launch dawn sunlight.
blue_phazon
Member
WTF. BTB is fun BECAUSE you can dick around in vehicles and do crazy shit
Captainbojanglesiii
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Oh yeah. You're right, it was. I may have been thinking of Reach with Team Objective.
Regardless it would be silly for 5 not to get a CTF playlist soon. It went very well with 4, indeed.
It increased when ranks were wiped out and players can go in freely without worry of losing their rank and getting matches quicker. In a ranked playlist, match waiting is longer by finding similar players and with party restrictions in play.
Halo 3's BTB went unranked not even a year after launch. Halo: Reach's BTB was unranked from the get-go and it was always in the mix of the upper populated playlists with Infection and Team Slayer. Halo 4 it was similar.
Seeing Objectives pretty much ignored in these new playlists isn't much of a surprise. In Reach when Bungie handed over the playlists, 343 added Flag Slayer to Team Objective for pete's sake; they heavily decreased the weighting for Flag and Assault in Big Team. In Halo 4 they were pushing Oddball and King of the Hill as individual playlists, and quite frankly, they weren't very popular. I mean, of course they won't. You don't put Oddball on every single small or midsize map. It's not balanced, nor fun.
What your saying about unranked is probably true... Surely that had a lot to do with it... and it also correlates with the inclusion of Loadouts... And unranked environment is pretty much the only place such a scheme is acceptable...
Was Unranked BTB more popular that Team Social?
draughn101
Member
I do hope they do something with the kill cam. It'd be useful for me if you could get a better idea of what the other person did to beat you, but in Halo 4 the other persons shots are never even close to you on the killcam.
BigEvilTurtle
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Would adore a final kill cam.