Current lore seems to be driving towards "everyone is a spartan"
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Current lore seems to be driving towards "everyone is a spartan"
Unfortunately. It's only a matter of time until Halsey and Lasky suit up.
Blue Ninja
Member
Halsey the One-Armed Seperatist Spartan
Makes a fair amount of sense; if you've dramatically reduced the casualty rate and risks, why wouldn't you want your soldiers to all be massively more effective?
Halo 4 to me seemed to be laying a lot of thematic groundwork, rather than the usual "and this happens in the sequel!" plot points (outside of I guess Cortana.)
There are certain generations of spartans but they are not created equally.
The latest spartans are a far cry from something like Master Chief, they are no where near his strength or speed.
Latest spartans are just soldiers given chemical augmentations(basically permanent steroids) in order to use MJLONR armor without killing themselves in the process.
Caayn
Member
The image of a Spartan being strong, smart, cunning, selfless and brave has already been destroyed with the introduction of the IVs.
It won't surprise me if the word Spartan becomes even more meaningless.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
This month in badly drawn Halo:
Bonus!
Bonus!
Well the Halo Graphic Novel had short stories/vignettes so the artists of that book didn't have to do deadline intensive monthly work. Halo Uprising was also a limited series (which had really bad delays due to Bungie/Microsoft's approval system) so Alex Maleev's art was still able to stay consistent.
Escalation on the other hand is an ongoing book, albeit with an endpoint, so it's bound to have inconsistent average art. They most likely have to get these issues out before Halo 5 comes out so there's not a whole lot of time to labor over their craft. My friend Juan Castro actually works on the book as an inker, he's doing a great job considering the workload but it is disappointing that Escalation isn't able to provide the level of art as good as the Graphic Novel or Limited Series.
I feel like for as big as they are they could've hired someone who was a better penciler.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
If they are going to publish a product that they know is going to be subpar, then maybe they should refrain from publishing it.
Uprising wasn't my style, but it wasn't bad.
Which stories bothered you in HGN? Only one that got me was "Second Sunrise Over New Mombasa", which I still don't understand except that the artist had never seen Halo before in his life. They must have given him some random batch of reference material; I'm not sure how else Shi Kai Wang's early concepts for the Elites ended up in that story.
None of them bothered me in HGN, I was saying that the art in those stories were great. Just a poor adjective used on my part.
Though SSONM isn't my cup of tea, though I didn't think it was bad by any means.
I loved Uprising's grittiness, though. That felt just right for the buildup after 2 leading into 3. Set the tone perfectly for what was to come in Halo 3, I thought.
killer rin
Member
Just finished the Kilo-Five Trilogy. I had originally read Glasslands back when it came out, and bought the subsequent books, but never ended up getting around to the other two. Aside from the first few chapters of Glasslands where they finished up the Onyx arc, I was kind of 'meh' on the book. That said, I wanted to finish the trilogy so I picked up The Thursday War and Moral Dictata up on Audible and I have to say, those two are much better than Glasslands and Euan Morton did a pretty good job on narration considering he gave everyone their own voice and tried to match accents.
Having finished the trilogy, I'm feeling overall positive on it and am actually kind of wanting more content dealing with the Kilo-Five gang. I really wish I had gotten around to this before I played Halo 4 though considering how much info it cleared up in the Campaign for me. If I had to choose my top three favourites they would mostly be BB, Mal and Vaz, but with everyone else as a close second.
Anyhow, onto the story. I found that I really enjoyed the Special-Ops nature of the trilogy, something which I hope future stories will continue to play on. It started hitting heavy once it got into deep dark secrets of the Spartan 2 Program and Naomi's and Osmans pasts. I felt for Staffan and liked how he survived in the end to give Naomi her birthday present. Lastly the moment with Osman's teacher got me to almost shed a tear. Jul is still a prick, but I can see where he is coming from now.
Anyhow, I can't wait to see what the next novel series will be. Now that I'm all caught up on all the books I'll be ready to read in on day one.
Having finished the trilogy, I'm feeling overall positive on it and am actually kind of wanting more content dealing with the Kilo-Five gang. I really wish I had gotten around to this before I played Halo 4 though considering how much info it cleared up in the Campaign for me. If I had to choose my top three favourites they would mostly be BB, Mal and Vaz, but with everyone else as a close second.
Anyhow, onto the story. I found that I really enjoyed the Special-Ops nature of the trilogy, something which I hope future stories will continue to play on. It started hitting heavy once it got into deep dark secrets of the Spartan 2 Program and Naomi's and Osmans pasts. I felt for Staffan and liked how he survived in the end to give Naomi her birthday present. Lastly the moment with Osman's teacher got me to almost shed a tear. Jul is still a prick, but I can see where he is coming from now.
Anyhow, I can't wait to see what the next novel series will be. Now that I'm all caught up on all the books I'll be ready to read in on day one.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I did the audio books as well (while at work, read the books at home). The narration was excellent. Halsey bashing aside, they're not as bad as everyone makes them out to be.
BB was the best contribution to the lore.
. Osman and Naomi were great as well, and I like that Vas ended up more complex than he initially seemed. Hope any or all of them make an appearance in the games.
BB was the best contribution to the lore.
Such a tragic story
GringoSuave89
Banned
Bit of an info dump for you guys.
New Mega Bloks sets in June
And an Art of Halo 5 book in August.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1608876497/
Seems awfully soon for merch to come out that could potentially spoil the game...
(thanks to http://haruspis.tumblr.com/ for the info)
New Mega Bloks sets in June
And an Art of Halo 5 book in August.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1608876497/
Seems awfully soon for merch to come out that could potentially spoil the game...
(thanks to http://haruspis.tumblr.com/ for the info)
Poodlestrike
Banned
Hmm. On the one hand, Mega Bloks. On the other hand, Vulture. So I'm torn.
Also, could this mean that my wish came true and the Vulture is sneaking into Halo 5?
GringoSuave89
Banned
I also wonder if the Vulture set is a misname for the Condor, since it would pair well with the Smuggler Ship.
Are there any kind of cons or tradeshows where these sets would debut? Really curious about them, especially, like I said, if there are possible H5 spoilers.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Oh, I hope not. The Condor is just an extra-large pelican, that's boring.
As to the latter, there's probably something, but I don't think the big shows happen until the fall. Probably better off watching their website for info.
GringoSuave89
Banned
yeah, I agree. Vultures are far more interesting.
Mega Bloks never struck me as the kind of company to post listings this far in advance. I thought self spoiling was a Lego thing?
Especially with Bionicle 2015
GringoSuave89
Banned
Yeah Mega Bloks has really surprised me over the years. Getting far better in their bulid quality.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Dammit, don't tell me that. The only reason I have any money at all is because I've convinced myself that none of the Halo MegaBloks are worth owning.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I haven't gotten that deep into it yet. I have the H4 Cryo Bay, a Mongoose with Covey turret, a Brute Chopper with UNSC turret, a Ghost with Elite Zealot, and a few of the blinds. Haven't broken the bank yet.
Ach, the fact that I've got all these LEGOs pretty effectively stops me from wanting MegaBloks. Both in that I don't need more crap cluttering up my space, and I'd rather have everything play nice with what I've already got. For those that buy the toys though, it's nice that they're quality.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Hmm, will have to look into those. I have a piece count addiction, though, so that drives up the price.
Also, on the subject of possible spoilers, the fuck is this?
LordOfChaos
Member
Another one! There's a whole lot of Kilo-5 hate out there, but I actually really enjoyed them too, gobbled up all three really fast.
I too wanted to see more of the characters in other lore, and to see what happens to them after all these events.
The little of them we saw in Halo 4 was disappointing, but understandable for the main series. Maybe we'll see more of them in other formats.
ODST 2 with vaz and mal? Sign me up! Oh, and FFS give BB to Chief if BB is still around...With the timelines though, he may not be
The bit at the end about his origin was pretty sad too. I wonder if he would ever go and find out later in his life.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I treat a good chunk of sets like I do movie tie in toys. There's a lot of liberties taken that don't end up in the actual franchise.
The sets that actually have H5 in the title are the ones that seem to be 100% featured in the game. At least that's how it appears to be.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Ah, you're probably right.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I just remember the Deathstroke figure for either Begins or The Dark Knight. After getting my hopes up then, I swore never again
New ship designs in the Halo Cannon Fodder blog:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/canon-fodder-in-the-loop
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/canon-fodder-in-the-loop
Regret Upon Approval
Member
GringoSuave89
Banned
Glad to see it's all canon. I eat that shit up.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Oh man, dat ORS. Seriously great looking.
I'm also looking forward to shenanigans with the Halcyon, especially if they put in the Pillar of Autumn upgrade.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Beta maps' backstories are up. We must have missed it.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/canon-fodder-beta-late-than-never
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/canon-fodder-beta-late-than-never
CloudyTuba
Member
So 343 posted another Lore Q&A
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/canon-fodder-have-s-moa
Two things stuck out to me.
I don't remember this. What part can I find it in?
I'm a bit confused. In Halo 3 the FUD was a Charon class, but the FUD in H4 was represented by a Strident class design. Now 343 is saying it's both? Wut?
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/canon-fodder-have-s-moa
Two things stuck out to me.
I don't remember this. What part can I find it in?
I'm a bit confused. In Halo 3 the FUD was a Charon class, but the FUD in H4 was represented by a Strident class design. Now 343 is saying it's both? Wut?
GringoSuave89
Banned
The room where you face the 2-3 Hunters. In the pit area there's three objects, including The Mantle and, apparently, a War Sphinx's eye. I always thought it was a monitor.
wesleyshark
Banned
What! I need to go replay this mission tonight and take a peek. :3
CloudyTuba
Member
Here is the eye of the War Sphinx:
Thanks, screenshot feature.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Dark Arse is having a sci-fi comics sale.
You can pick up the first 13 disappointing issues of Escalation for just a $1 each and the entire dreadful Palmer mini series, Initiation, for $3.
Even UNSC personel are excited!
You can pick up the first 13 disappointing issues of Escalation for just a $1 each and the entire dreadful Palmer mini series, Initiation, for $3.
Even UNSC personel are excited!
wesleyshark
Banned
Oh, cheers! 👏👏👏
kingwingin
Member
Can anyone list the games and books in order? I tried searching it and people have different list orders and some people list essential and non essential books.
I really want to get into halo lore and finish everything up before halo 5 releases
I really want to get into halo lore and finish everything up before halo 5 releases
killer rin
Member
Do you want Chronological Order or Release Order? If you want release order check out this Halopedia article.
If you want Chronological Order, I'd personally read in this order because it will keep things as linear as possible for you. You can either choose to read The Forerunner Saga first or last, but I'd personally wait until you finish the other books before it just so it makes more sense.
The First Contact and the beginning of the Human/Covenant War
Contact Harvest
Spartan 2 and Spartan 3 Saga
The Fall of Reach
The Flood
First Strike
Ghosts of Onyx
Kilo-Five Trilogy (picks up directly after Ghosts of Onyx)
Glasslands
The Thursday War
Moral Dictata
The Forerunner Saga
Cryptum
Primordium
Silentium
The Rest
The Cole Protocol
Evolutions
Broken Circle
With that out of the way, the timeline, books and games together goes something like below. Stuff on the same line separated by a dash happens at the same time
The Forerunner Saga
Contact Harvest
Halo Wars
The Fall of Reach - The Cole Protocol - Halo Reach
Halo 1 - The Flood
First Strike - Ghosts of Onyx
Halo 2 - ODST
Halo 3
Kilo-Five Trilogy
Halo 4
How is Escalations right now? I stopped checking in regularly after 11.
I'd rather check out the Tomb Raider comics.
Dark Arse is having a sci-fi comics sale.
You can pick up the first 13 disappointing issues of Escalation for just a $1 each and the entire dreadful Palmer mini series, Initiation, for $3.
Even UNSC personel are excited!
I'd rather check out the Tomb Raider comics.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's... better.
Though that's not saying much
I'm a little behind myself, but it picked up after issue 13 or so.GringoSuave89
Banned
It marginally improved, but not by much. The story all feels like filler still, which is a bummer.
Tomb Raider comics are fantastic.
"Better"? =( The only thing I enjoyed from this whole series was the Master Chief story against the Didact. Though I'm not sure what's going to come out of it.It's... better.
Though that's not saying much
Gah. I should pick those up as soon as I'm done with the novel.
And I'll never understand this. It's their flagshipt title and yet the comics look like trash. =\