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Has Samsung out-apple Apple?
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BladeoftheImmortal
Member
I'm an ass man.
Yes
Deaf Spacker
Memb
Damn.
This thread is an embarrassment, I use iOS and Android and I couldn't care less what the back of a phone looks like.
Dreams-Visions
Member
People focus on the minors when the majors are all the same. Shit that doesn't matter and never mattered suddenly becomes mission-critical, deal-breakers.
Alternately, people are very insecure about their purchase decisions and need regular validation to feel good.
ISee
Member
Jobs would also never give his approval for a larger ~6" screen in the first place, so...
Deaf Spacker
Memb
I think you have hit the nail on the head.
roflwaffles
Member
I currently use a 7+, and I'm planning to jump to the Note 8 for a few months before jumping again to the X.
I was a hardcore Android fan for years during the iPhone 5-iPhone 7 era (Note 4 may be my favorite phone in my lifetime) but in all honesty, despite the horrible looking homepage, horrid file management system, and complete lack of customization I think I prefer iOS now. iMessage by itself is leagues beyond anything Android can offer and the majority of the apps I use (mainly social media) have a much better looking interface than on Android.
That being said, Samsung phones are aesthetically more well-designed than Apple's now. I've never been a fan of the standard S line, but as of the S7, it's upped its game tremendously while Apple's design has remained stagnant and this new X is fine, but compared to something like a Note 8 or S8, it doesn't stack up.
I was a hardcore Android fan for years during the iPhone 5-iPhone 7 era (Note 4 may be my favorite phone in my lifetime) but in all honesty, despite the horrible looking homepage, horrid file management system, and complete lack of customization I think I prefer iOS now. iMessage by itself is leagues beyond anything Android can offer and the majority of the apps I use (mainly social media) have a much better looking interface than on Android.
That being said, Samsung phones are aesthetically more well-designed than Apple's now. I've never been a fan of the standard S line, but as of the S7, it's upped its game tremendously while Apple's design has remained stagnant and this new X is fine, but compared to something like a Note 8 or S8, it doesn't stack up.
I don't care about symmetry - lots of the mockups are simply cutting across the top of the notch to create one top bezel. That would create a lack of symmetry across the entire phone.
Video is being used as an example of entire phone usage, when really it is just one use case that has a poor demo (which I do hope they address). I would want it to zoom to the edge of the notch, and black out the ears (and remove the status icons to avoid distraction). Then if I want to zoom in further to fill the screen, it still doesn't go beyond the notch.
However, in most other apps - web browsing etc - I think the notch is fine. You get that symmetry by having at least some of the screen background reaching fully top to bottom, and the reality is that most apps will only paint to the bottom of the notch - the ears will still be the system icons, just with app-coloured background. This will give a nice appearance of a full screen display without affecting day to day use at all. You get more usable screen because you don't have that thin status bar reaching across the top of the screen
MarkMclovin
Member
Oh boy.
Eh I was a android fanboy for the longest. And Apple has made some shitty anti consumer decisions in the past(16gb iPhones being one of them) but their OS is on point. Everything just works, it's almost enough to look past all the obvious ripoffs Apple has done over the years. Also they usually end up executing whatever they take better then the competition.
I agree. The 5 was a total stepdown designwise, 6-7 were ok.
Although I must say the 8 looks quite nice with the glass back.
Sometimes I feel like my family are the only ones to have bad buggy iPhones. Their OS was ahead by miles for a long time, but nowhere near the flawless miracle people make it out to be by regurgitating Apple's "it just works" line.
I was worried about the Note 8 for the exact same reason. Thnx for the info 😄
Diprosalic
Banned
Iphones had huuge bezels now it doesn't have them anymore any bezel at all is the ugliest thing people have ever seen. Lmao.
llien
Member
Visuals, perhaps, but it is so awkward to hold in hands, especially after Samsungs.
Exactly this. The edge display seems like a functionality nightmare. Always accidentally hitting the sides. What's the point?
MarkMclovin
Member
Not even a 4 year old Google device can update to the latest version of Android.
Infact, can a 4 year old iPhone legit update to the latest version of iOS?
They can't even figure out how to center their backs on the samsungs.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
iOS 11 is coming to:
iPhone X
iPhone 8
iPhone 8 Plus
iPhone 7
iPhone 7 Plus
iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone SE
iPhone 5s - released in 2013
But how well will it run the 5s?
MarkMclovin
Member
Perhaps it's the revenge of Tim Cook and the other engineers after years of screwing them over.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I saw a video of the beta a while back, looked kinda slow/iffy at times but it was a beta OS running on a 4 year old phone so who knows. Def won't run great though, at least not at first lol.
allllll depends on how much improvement they made from the beta to the GM version. Only time will tell.
Dreams-Visions
Member
We'll know pretty soon, no?
It should certainly run sufficiently smooth but clearly slower than any other more recent OS release.
You've experienced two good Samsung phones, so what is the problem?
Poor GRIMES
Banned
While I agree, you might wanna link a comparison done with the actual iPhone X and not a mockup phone
The Faceless Master
Member
you need to try the 8 buddy
Well considering that's out of the GS2, 3, 6, 7e, 8 (short period), GNexus, Note 2, 4, 7 and hell even the Samsung Instinct.. I'd say I'm an Apple fanboy to an extent but I usually give all phones their due diligence before judging them.
The Faceless Master said:
Yeah I absolutely want one and think it's prob Sammie's best phone yet but I can't justify 2 smartphone purchases within 2 months haha. Maybe when it gets a price drop or if I completely fail during the X preorder.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
It would make more sense then to go for LG V30, Mi Mix 2, Note 8, etc? Unless your criteria is "phone must have 'x' in its name..."
I finally got to play with one of those and that thing is THICK and slow. Really wish the Mi Mix had all the bands.
Canklestank
Neo Member
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ZL
vs
83% screen ratio X
/snigger
EDIT: Now that I've read the previous page and think I understand your point, I think you're giving Sony way too much credit. We've all agreed that bezels need to get smaller since the beginning of the smartphone. That ZL is nowhere close to what Apple achieved with the X, even if you don't like the design.
I recently bought a Macbook Pro so I want to take advantage of whatever synergy it offers with the phone and I want a change from Android as well, otherwise I'd go with the Samsung S8, yeah.
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ZL
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83% screen ratio X
/snigger
I honestly can't tell what the point of this post was. Is to make the ZL look good or the iphone look good? I'm guessing its to make the iphone look good because the ZL has so many negative aspects including its below average battery life. A good comparison would be s8 vs x since both phones are good.. it would just pretty much be based on the preference of operating system.
DongBeetle
Banned
Why exactly are Apple processors so disproportionately more powerful than even the very fastest chips used in other smartphones?
Jazzy Network
Member
They build on 1 ecosystem and a handful of phones so it's easier for them to optimize it. Also Qualcomm don't really give a shit because they have so many patents and most smaller companies need to use their processors so why bother? The Kirin 970 is probably the most powerful android based chipset which will be out in the fall. It will be relatively close to the A11.
That inch of border at the bottom kind of torpedoes any claims of being "bezel-less." That's like the omega bezel. The evolved form of bezel, bezellum. Super bezel blue.
Didn't Apple just remove this "synergy" as every device now should be "its own"?
adamantypants
Member
Byproduct of chip manufacturer and software design working in tandem. Androids are a bunch of off the shelf parts thrown together, generally.
eyeball_kid
Member
I like how the OP apparently chose the worst screen of the X they could find and compared it to Samsungs with empty, nice background images. I will agree though that the Control Center in iOS 11 looks like something from an open source project. There's some nice aspects to 11 though, especially the animation and more fluid integration with gestures.
Also, the A11 is completely designed by Apple's own chip designers this year, and judging by the specs they might be the best chip designers in the mobile game at this point.
Also, the A11 is completely designed by Apple's own chip designers this year, and judging by the specs they might be the best chip designers in the mobile game at this point.
They design their own cpu and from now on even their gpu instead buying of the shelf parts like everyone else.
Goes to show you how little android people know about the products they're trashing.
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