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"Have a seat." - Chris Hansen is back. How to Catch a Kickstarter

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vypek

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Couldn't this guy argue he knew the "kid" wasn't actually a kid and he thought they were roleplaying or something? It would actually be kind of believable in this case.

Another thing that always surprises me is when Hansen does his have a seat thing, why don't the guys say "No, fuck you and I'm not signing the release so don't even think about airing this on tv!" Why would they give an interview and provide the DA's office with ammo against them? Shouldn't a criminal know that as soon as you're busted you shut up and ask for a lawyer? I'm not a criminal and I know this from just watching tv.

He arrived with the pretense of the person being a child. I think they actually use children's photos for these so I don't think this guy could have talked his way out of it.

I'm not sure how the criminal processing and TV releases work in this situation. I know there have been people who don't take a seat and just take off running but the police obviously catch them when they are outside. The show already has a lot of ammo against them. If they sign a release or sit down and talk maybe they get some sort of leniency. Another thing that could be happening is that the criminals are so caught off guard by being surrounded by cameras and confronted by a grown man that they just sort of comply.
 

120v

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I think its because a lot of these guys simply aren't that bright. A 'sensible' criminal knows not to say anything but "lawyer"
 

vypek

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I think its because a lot of these guys simply aren't that bright. A 'sensible' criminal knows not to say anything but "lawyer"

This is true. And given another thought, they wouldn't show those who only ask for a lawyer. They try to make it entertaining so they only show those who stick around for the interview
 
This is true. And given another thought, they wouldn't show those who only ask for a lawyer. They try to make it entertaining so they only show those who stick around for the interview

During the original run of To Catch a Predator, they actually showed some guys who got the fuck out of there as soon as they saw Hansen and refused to talk to police.

A lot of these guys stay and talk to the police because they think it'll help their case by looking cooperative.
 
you know I don't think there's anything wrong with the concept of this per say, but I do think there's something wrong in publicizing it and airing it. The results have not been the best in that case... many cases fell through, that guy committed suicide, and these people have even less chance at reform than normal pedophiles because their face is everywhere. It's deplorable the crime they are trying to commit, but I also understand it's likely a type of attraction they're unfortunately born with and so it'd be more constructive to try to find some way to deal with these folk that didn't also trap them into a hell spiral that makes any chance at changing impossible as even getting help is stigmatized. It may even put more kids at risk in the end because if they do get caught for this crime, they're not going to go to jail for life so when they get out they'll be without any safety net, almost no job prospects and likely more crimes or molestation attempts in the future.

There's an great American Life (I think?) podcast where a teenager who admitted he has been attracted to very young girls for as long as he could remember formed a help group with other people like that so they could help each other avoid that attraction. But the reason he went that route is because literally no one out there would help him. He tried to go to a therapist for it, and they straight up refused to see him. He had never touched an underage kid, but was looking at underage porn and he knew he had to try to stop it.

Now how is that constructive if the goal is to try to protect children?

So I'd donate if the goal was to expand the Predator Catching program, but only if it wasn't publicized for a tv show or youtube show or whatever and if some of that money went toward expanding therapy programs and preventative programs to try to stop people with this chemical imbalance in their head that makes them attracted to kids in the first place.
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