RunWhiteBoyRun
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Hopefully some more child porn fans will off themselves like the Texas guy if this Kickstarter works.
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We've had multiple GAF threads about how parents are overreacting to "stranger danger" when statistically its been proven that fellow family members are a bigger threat to kids.
We've had several threads about how parents are afraid to leave their children near men because so many people have become afraid that any random male might be a pedophile. Male teachers on this very board have talked about this mindset and how its affected them.
I'm not going to say the "Catch a Preator" series has had no merit but it certainly has contributed to those erroneous lines of thought. Did you seriously not know about any of this?
BlackBanditSho
Member
One of the few shows I actually cheered at when the pedos were caught. I never got the entrapment arguments. This show does good work. I don't know about making parents 'fearful', but as a new parent, it certainly gave me pause bout allowing children on the internet without monitoring.
I loved this show. Still do. Felt like good things were happening in the world with every episode.
I loved this show. Still do. Felt like good things were happening in the world with every episode.
Shuggananas
Banned
5000 yo ancient dragons and such
anyway stop oppressing the pedos !
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Certain people justify young anime girls wearing bikinis under the pretext that they are technically 1000 year old demons/dragons/magic fairies etc. See Nowi, Etna...
I seriously did not. There are a bunch of overprotective parents out there, To Catch a Predator is another reason for these parents to be paranoid. If it isn't that, its shit about Craigslist or tinder. If it isn't that, its facebook or twitter. If it isn't real life scenarios, its violent videogames, rap music, any media that isn't "clean".
Kids at my highscool complained to their parents about the dumbest shit, which in turn caused the teacher to get bitched at.
Sure it does. Some gaffers come up with the most inane excuses as to why the subject of their obsession appears to be a fucking a toddler in a bikini.
And I'm pretty sure some even invoked similar excuses to "contextualise" their suspect behaviour.
Really? Wow, I hope you aren't serious.
As for me I was never a fan of the show, I don't think watching human misery unfold is entertaining television. These people need help not to have their faces plastered all over TV to be ridiculed and laughed at by idiots sitting at home going "hurr, look at those sick fucks. You get em Chris, they dun fucked up now."
Not referring to legitimate predators, but incidents where a child may have been in danger for whatever reason, and a man who would be nearby didn't help for fear of being labeled as a pedophile by the parents or police. That's a real phenomenon.
Post of the year.
PhoenixDark
Banned
That's been happening for awhile and has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is adult men having sexual conversations with children online.
RunWhiteBoyRun
Member
I can understand that it comes off assholish/insensitive/etc, but it's one of the strongest things I believe in. You can't be cured of being a pedo.
It kinda does, at least to me. There's a pedophile paranoia that has intensified over the last couple decades because of shows like How to Catch a Predator, and it's resulted in many men who are not pedophiles to not want to be seen around children.
I mean sure it "could" have been anything else but that doesn't change the fact that while the show had its positive qualities (though it was always kind of tasteless even if it was a force for good) it has negatively contributed to certain stereotypes.
Granted, I tend to not enter threads about games like those because they so thoroughly disinterest/bother me but I don't think I've ever actually seen a Gaffer try to defend legitimate sexual attraction to a character with a pre-pubescent body with "its ok, she's a 12353535 old demon!" Like I buy that it might be the rationale for why some of those things might get produced in Japan but it's always struck me more as a meme than a thing that actually happens on our boards with regards to that reasoning.
So are you advocating for eugenics here?
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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I'm curious to know what international-GAF thinks about this show. A significant portion of the world places 14 as the age of consent (China, most of South America, Austria, Germany, Portugal, Italy, etc.).
RunWhiteBoyRun
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No, I'm not. I'm stating I hate child molesters/pedo's and such to an extremely high degree.
zer0blivion
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Some anime has characters that appear underage, but are actually 1000 year old witches or demons.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReallySevenHundredYearsOld
DoktorEvil
Banned
There have been a few threads in the past that have contended that it may be biologically driven(the appeal for prepubescent children).
How do you suggest we handle these people?
I'd say its completely biological but I have nothing to cite that assertion. Comes down to the question, are all adults attracted to children but withhold that information or urge because of societal standards?
The answer can't possibly be yes, being attracted to kids isn't a choice, its something to do with brain matter and juice.
RunWhiteBoyRun
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I do not have a rational manner in which to handle them. I understand my comments are not of a rational manner, and only adding my emotion to the discussion does not help with a discussion. Just felt the need to comment.
Shuggananas
Banned
French here, it's a good thing.
That pedo who shot himself was probably not missed.
And by the way you can be attracted to children but recognize it is not a good thing and not invite them over after telling them you're getting condoms. Or maybe you don't even control your dick and what you say ?
Ugh. This is really the wrong attitude
It was something alright...
First: that camera seems as if it's inside the house.
Second: Why the hell would you open the door naked!?
Gormless Noodle
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I don't like these kinds American TV spectacles. They serve no purpose other than shock value and from what I saw in some of these gifs, the way they lure these people out seems questionable. I've never seen the show, but it seems redundant and something best left to law enforcement.
sensui-tomo
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I'm not going to try and change your mind, but I can see how someone would have this view, personally i'd be fine with people getting help/go to jail/rehab to help getting rid of their issues since that would help the big issue, but i understand that these are the people that are in the extreme and thus are more willing to hurt a child(maybe not in their eyes but it is what happens) so i'm hoping they do more than just, oh hey here you are, going to jail for some time, no help trying to fix their fixation on children. That anime comment though, thats a stinger thats for sure, but i'm better with those people who only look at fake stuff over those who actually look at real stuff.
RunWhiteBoyRun
Member
I can appreciate why other folks would feel differently than me, so it's all good.
Blackage
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Indeed, I think entrapment would be like a police officer gift wrapping a 5 year old on a Pedophile's front yard and then Jack Nicholson nodding at them when they come outside to make a move. The Jack Nicholson nod of course, being the persuading argument which would cause it to be entrapment in this case. If there is no Jack Nicholson nodding, then it wouldn't be entrapment if the Pedophile moved in on the child.
I think that's accurate anyway.
Don't many of these countries couch the low age of consent by having restrictions on the age of the (for example) 14 year old? Like the fourteen year old can consent with someone up to eighteen or so, but not like a 40 year old?
DoktorEvil
Banned
Ironically, over zealous law enforcement was the reason for the ADA suicide that led to the cancellation of the program.
sir_kevith
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The problem with the show was that it wasn't informational it was just about ratings. The predators rarely came off as dangerous but rather the most pathetic losers imaginable. I'm pretty sure some of them were retarded and viewers even began to sympathize with them.
TV producers colluding with law enforcement to get ratings is a recipe for disaster. I feel like defending the show is somewhat analogous to defending public executions because "they're guilty! The deserve it!" Some deserved it, some probably didn't, but hey this is a America so let's make a spectacle of it!
TV producers colluding with law enforcement to get ratings is a recipe for disaster. I feel like defending the show is somewhat analogous to defending public executions because "they're guilty! The deserve it!" Some deserved it, some probably didn't, but hey this is a America so let's make a spectacle of it!
You'd honestly be surprised by what some of the usual suspects on GAF have to say about their avatar choices. I know I was.
OricWindstar
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Fuck this show and fuck him. Regardless of the crime, justice shouldn't be entertainment or a spectacle.
jack_package_200
Banned
Again, it should be the police doing the investigations and the arrest.
People who are trying to make money on the situation are the problem.
And yes the fuck anyone who would attempt to sexually assault a child. They are the scum of the internet and world
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People who are trying to make money on the situation are the problem.
And yes the fuck anyone who would attempt to sexually assault a child. They are the scum of the internet and world
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you know I don't think there's anything wrong with the concept of this per say, but I do think there's something wrong in publicizing it and airing it. The results have not been the best in that case... many cases fell through, that guy committed suicide, and these people have even less chance at reform than normal pedophiles because their face is everywhere. It's deplorable the crime they are trying to commit, but I also understand it's likely a type of attraction they're unfortunately born with and so it'd be more constructive to try to find some way to deal with these folk that didn't also trap them into a hell spiral that makes any chance at changing impossible as even getting help is stigmatized. It may even put more kids at risk in the end because if they do get caught for this crime, they're not going to go to jail for life so when they get out they'll be without any safety net, almost no job prospects and likely more crimes or molestation attempts in the future.
There's an great American Life (I think?) podcast where a teenager who admitted he has been attracted to very young girls for as long as he could remember formed a help group with other people like that so they could help each other avoid that attraction. But the reason he went that route is because literally no one out there would help him. He tried to go to a therapist for it, and they straight up refused to see him. He had never touched an underage kid, but was looking at underage porn and he knew he had to try to stop it.
Now how is that constructive if the goal is to try to protect children?
So I'd donate if the goal was to expand the Predator Catching program, but only if it wasn't publicized for a tv show or youtube show or whatever and if some of that money went toward expanding therapy programs and preventative programs to try to stop people with this chemical imbalance in their head that makes them attracted to kids in the first place.
There's an great American Life (I think?) podcast where a teenager who admitted he has been attracted to very young girls for as long as he could remember formed a help group with other people like that so they could help each other avoid that attraction. But the reason he went that route is because literally no one out there would help him. He tried to go to a therapist for it, and they straight up refused to see him. He had never touched an underage kid, but was looking at underage porn and he knew he had to try to stop it.
Now how is that constructive if the goal is to try to protect children?
So I'd donate if the goal was to expand the Predator Catching program, but only if it wasn't publicized for a tv show or youtube show or whatever and if some of that money went toward expanding therapy programs and preventative programs to try to stop people with this chemical imbalance in their head that makes them attracted to kids in the first place.
sensui-tomo
Member
This sounds like a good idea
Not being sarcastic, being serious here.
I dont think anyone uses that defense since its probably the dumbest thing ever, I believe most use the "Its not real and not hurting anybody" defense and probably (hopefully) have a disconnect with Real children and anime kids, I dont fault those people who only keep it to anime since in all honesty, it doesnt hurt anybody and it may be creepy, but again the main focus is that No one is hurt. Doesnt mean I cant laugh at gaf making jokes about it though.
Stay safe anime-gaf.
Joyful
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sensui-tomo
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Its a sad panda, what of it?
You activated my trap card. If you avatar quote me, you know its origin and that speaks volumes of you.(this is intended for anyone, except the Trap card activation.)
Look, my avatar is made of rocks so technically he's billions of years old.
Extra Sauce
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Same.
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