Yeah yeah, I know, what I'm trying to say is I'm surprised he didn't spot it. I dunno, I know it would be well hidden and with a substantial zoom lens, but I had this image of a guy behind a standard studio camera in the living room room something ahha.
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Yeah yeah, I know, what I'm trying to say is I'm surprised he didn't spot it. I dunno, I know it would be well hidden and with a substantial zoom lens, but I had this image of a guy behind a standard studio camera in the living room room something ahha.
From what I know of Portugal's law:
Its OK from the age of sixteen, if the adult is not in a position of power (teacher/care taker) . From the age of 14 to 16 is considered illegal if its deemed the adult "abused the inexperience" of the victim. Which is wording that it's not really much clear and so its open for different legal interpretations . A 14 year old having sex with someone that is >18 is technically legal but it could be deemed illegal if a case was opened and it was ruled there was "abuse of inexperience".
These men aren't seeking help for their disorder, they're going to a house with the intention of fucking a child.
Dude, my cat avatar swore it was legal. Am I suppose to check ID on every fine looking feline thumbnail?
Gambit 1138
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Didn't he himself get in trouble for fondling a girl or something?
ryutaro's mama
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Will there be sweet tea?
Lord Panda
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I don't understand how you thought that was even remotely humorous.
I was hoping for that, too
BadAss2961
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I could watch Predator all day. They should've Maury'd that shit and just made an endless mega series dedicated to Hansen busting those creeps.
Exploratory
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Rofl are you fucking kidding me? A camouflaged police officer? Unnecessary as fuck.
This type of situation works really well in a documentary style, cops works out because its not about the characters and the interviews, its just a candid experience of a cop arresting someone.
This all seems very dirty, and very exploitative to me. Im not going to sit here and defend pedophiles who are actively going to try and have sex with people, but everything surrounding it seems super dity. This isnt tv land, this is the real world and we saw what happened when tv land got involved in this shit.
If it was just a documentary style video of different cases then id be fine, you can have Chris be a voice over for the show, and I think that would work really well.
This all seems very dirty, and very exploitative to me. Im not going to sit here and defend pedophiles who are actively going to try and have sex with people, but everything surrounding it seems super dity. This isnt tv land, this is the real world and we saw what happened when tv land got involved in this shit.
If it was just a documentary style video of different cases then id be fine, you can have Chris be a voice over for the show, and I think that would work really well.
Hanson comes out looking pretty bad here. As does the police chief there.
it was actually pretty funny.
Would be so much better if they took all the cash raised and put it all towards catching the sick fuckers that they identify. i.e. no flashy intros and Chris Haaansen looking all smug like he caught them himself.
I suppose there's not much revenue in doing a 10 minute show reel of names of kiddie fiddlers from across the world.
I always felt weird watching the Dateline shows. This sort of stuff I agree with in principle but there was always that sense of ratings type shit going on.
Shitty how people profit off fucked up stuff. I always wondered if the people they caught had done stuff previously and gotten away with it.
I suppose there's not much revenue in doing a 10 minute show reel of names of kiddie fiddlers from across the world.
I always felt weird watching the Dateline shows. This sort of stuff I agree with in principle but there was always that sense of ratings type shit going on.
Shitty how people profit off fucked up stuff. I always wondered if the people they caught had done stuff previously and gotten away with it.
I don't "hate" people who have mental disorders. They require help not constant scorn.
I have no problem with them being caught and placed in prison or better some sort of treatment program. However, airing the whole ordeal on TV so the whole world can laugh at their situation I do not find appealing. Just imagine a TV program where people routinely took a mentally challenged person and convinced them to commit some crime so that we could all laugh at it. While this situation isn't quite so extreme the sentiment is the same.
I really find it to just be one of the most deplorable types of entertainment humans have practiced long before TV. The same thing goes for those "Cheaters" type TV shows, Dr. Phil, and other day-time family drama/talk show therapy. I think this sums up my opinion pretty well even though the topic isn't entirely the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv1AqwzRkeE
paolo11
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I was watching this show on Youtube and on TV. This is one of my faves. Go to 17:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZauC0ZTqggI
Predator: Sir, I'm not a predator
Chris Hansen: You're not a real predator? You are pretend predator?
Predator: No, sir, I am just curious
Chris Hansen: So you are a curious predator?
Funny times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZauC0ZTqggI
Predator: Sir, I'm not a predator
Chris Hansen: You're not a real predator? You are pretend predator?
Predator: No, sir, I am just curious
Chris Hansen: So you are a curious predator?
Funny times.
DarkJediKnight
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Holy Shit! treatment program? What world do you live in? These people have no remorse for the lives they destroy just so they can get their "fix". I don't care if it's mental disorder or straight up evil - you intend to have sex with a child, means you go to jail.
This debate rarely ends well. While I agree child molesters are horrible people, this attitude is why they refuse to seek treatment leading to them acting on their behaviors. Not always of course, but it plays a factor. People that have pedophilic thoughts need help before they act and just locking them up because they find kids sexually attractive isn't really the best course of action. What is, idk. It seems like an insanely difficult thing to really talk about because it'll lead to a storm of controversy. Idk.
Edit: nevermind. I see you're talking about the people that end up going to these kids houses. Yeah, fuck them.
I'm American, but I do find it weird how being attracted to teenagers is equivocated to being attracted to pre-pubescent children. When you're a teenager, you absolutely want to fuck other teenagers. I don't see that desire completely going away just because you become an adult, especially if you're only in your 20s.
As for this show, I think it's a gray area morally. By law, a teenager can't consent to sex, but of course that's a massive oversimplification from a biological standpoint. Also, using reality as entertainment is a dangerous road. What happens if a "dry season" happens where they're unable to "bait" any predators, but at the same time, they need to keep the show running? How far are they willing to go to maximize ratings? It just seems like a race to the bottom to me.
uh...
Zeus Molecules
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That's what I thought!
Don't forget the guy who got caught on Dateline TWICE. ("Oops")
Lol, i remember that episode. Hansen has so many memorable lines.
DarkJediKnight
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Wondering if there's a Canadian version of Predator.
jakonovski
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Jesus this whole thing is ultra creepy. And this ran on mainstream tv instead of some underground fetish station?
1. They are clearly not in a right mindset to begin with.
2. Dateline can't be everywhere.
Treatment programs would stop such individuals from ever getting to the point of committing a crime. Attitudes like yours are why such individuals stay the way they are and end up committing said crimes.
King Tubby
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I still sometimes binge watch episodes on youtube. The entrapment arguments are total horseshit.
I would have more sympathy if they didn't take the act of going to a stranger's house to have sex with a minor. If it weren't a hidden sting, all of the people caught on this show were ready and willing to commit a serious crime. It's not just a desire at that point.
Phenomenal.
Who understands entrapment better - the judges that have thrown out a bunch of cases from this show or King Tubby?
King Tubby
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Pedo Sagan would argue that we're all star stuff, anyway.
Most of the cases weren't thrown out because of claims of entrapment, but rather evidentiary issues and poor procedure since it involved a civilian organization doing the work of police.
EDIT: More detail on what constitutes entrapment:
I find it very hard to believe that, in the majority of these cases, the suspect had no intention of sexually chatting up or meeting a minor for sex before the decoy just planted the idea in his head or talked him into it.
Reizo Ryuu
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That's because even though the word 'pedo' means a very specific thing (by definition and law), it gets thrown around way too easily. In my experience it's because people honestly believe it refers to anything <18, heck I had a friend(27) who said he felt like a pedo for liking a girl that just turned 20...
Shuggananas
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You know pedophiles know being a pedo and acting upon it is illegal too yet they do it, right ?
Napoleonthechimp
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I find the paedophilia witch hunts to be pretty disturbing.
*Warning* Satire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU
"We must catch that man, he really is a shit."
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"We must catch that man, he really is a shit."
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Haha, good thing Swamp Thing was there or who knows what would have happened.
Not saying it's right what they do, because it's not by both morals and llaw, but sexuality however fucked up it is is hardwired into us after we go through puberty. There's obviously some sexualities that are both morally and legallly wrong by law, but people can't for the most part help who they're attracted to as it's not something you actively decide, is it? These people need help, they don't and shouldn't have to kill themselves.
It's not a mental illness, just like any other sexuality, it's just a very unfortunate situation and the people who have to live with that must go through hell. I'd much rather them be able to come out openly and get help than end up repressing and hiding what they're going through so long that they eventually turn to just going to rape someone.
It's not exactly the same, especially morally, but there was a point in time people were thrown in Jail or even killed for being gay. Being gay is just another sexual attraction and those people didn't choose to be gay, much like the vast majority of people didn't choose to be straight, it just happens and killing or shaming someone for something they didn't actively choose isn't fair. We as a society should offer more help and support or nothing is ever going to change.
John Kowalski
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don't make a police matter look like a fucking tv show, fucking hell
disgusting
disgusting
DoktorEvil
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The whole nature vs nurture argument made for sexuality and biological preferences has always been a really slippery slope for anyone to tread down. I still continue to find it a difficult subject to wholly understand.
Threads on GAF have suggested that pedophilia is biologically driven vs environmentally driven, so if it's biologically driven, is it something that is curable/should be morally & ethically cured?
Can this argument be extended over to other sexual preferences? Potentially and I don't doubt that there are researchers out there trying to find a concrete answer. What that research may bear might really affect the lives of a large & growing minority of people around the world.
I support the show as a deterrent. If it stops even one pedophile from making a move, it justifies itself.
Uh what is this? They got camera men in the house? Yeah this ain't made up or anything, no no..It was something alright...
TheAbsolution
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He came in the rented house by himself and became naked.
Wait, so he just enters this random house, finds it empty, assumes that the decoy will turn up and proceeds to get naked? Not weird at all. Some of this definitely seems staged.
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