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HBO Talk ‘Confederate’ Controversy, Defends Slave Drama, Not The Way It Was Announced


a 3 second google search proves you wrong. so did these "facts" come out of the ass?

The fuck even is this?

Didn't ya'll know?

iqXYPQ9.jpg

Based on the truest story.

I will use any excuse to post this.
 

Sunster

Member
Two facts:
There are more black people incarcerated now in the USA then there ever were slaves
Number two there were more white then black slaves

There were at least 3.9 million slaves in 1860.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_Census

There are 2.2 million prisoners (total) in the US right now.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm

There are 60,000 slaves in the US right now.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/?utm_term=.d1803666e60c[/URL]

There are between 21 - 46 million slaves in the world today.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_slavery[/URL]
 

Enzom21

Member
Two facts:
There are more black people incarcerated now in the USA then there ever were slaves
Number two there were more white then black slaves

I get that you're not brave enough to post anything more than a shit drive by post, you're also wrong.
http://www.snopes.com/irish-slaves-early-america/
A quick google search would have prevented your foolishness but I guess you wouldn't have able to try and push a certain narrative.
 
Yeah, The Handmaid's Tale could've "went south" (no pun intended??), but people gave the show a chance, and it turned out to be amazing, is a wonderful piece of art, and has enlightened many into the frightening future we may be veering towards.

Just like Confederate has the potential to.

that show started on a 8 out of 10 on scale of possible ain't shite

Confederate is only starting at 7 b/c it technically has black writers but they seem clearly the old Hollywood cheap and new hires
 
Racist: HBO don't you dare show the ugliness of slavery! Slavery is good for black!
Anti-Racist: HBO don't you dare make slavery as entertainment!

Me as a foreigner: You know? You Americans got some serious issues.
 
Didn't ya'll know?

iqXYPQ9.jpg


Based on the truest story.

I will use any excuse to post this.

Is she the white slave? Why isn't she in restraints like the black slaves in the background? If she's the slave, why does she have all that makeup on and a nice dress?

I need answers to all these questions.
 

Slayven

Member
Is she the white slave? Why isn't she in restraints like the black slaves in the background? If she's the slave, why does she have all that makeup on and a nice dress?

I need answers to all these questions.

I feel like the slaves in the back was told the name and premise of the show from the looks on their faces
 

Kin5290

Member
Maybe that is exactly what you should do. The "modern" confederate stays backwards and becomes isolated as no other country wants to deal with them like North Korea, while USA (North) advances technologically and socially and becomes an economic force on the world stage. I would probably watch that show.

A modern-day institution of slavery makes more sense if the salves are machines. Then you can use allegory and "nuance", whatever that means in this case. Although I know some of you have problems with Detroit (video game not the movie) which doing just that.
The problem with a CSA that maintains the institution of chattel slavery, where the economy by necessity has an agricultural cash crop focus, is that they could get utterly stomped by the rapidly developing and industrializing USA. Not to mention that that the European community would be staunchly on the side that didn't still legalize slavery.

Also Jesus Christ at "The White Slave". I don't know what's worse, the premise, the poster, or that horrendous tag line.
 
Is she the white slave? Why isn't she in restraints like the black slaves in the background? If she's the slave, why does she have all that makeup on and a nice dress?

I need answers to all these questions.

her whiteness made her allergic to the chains. can't have your slave dying on you

also she cries make-up
 

smisk

Member
First thing I thought of when I heard about this show is a book that came out last year with a similar premise called Underground Airlines (written by a white guy fwiw). It got a good reception and I've been meaning to read it. Wondering if anyone here has, and how it handles the subject.
Obviously it's not nearly as mainstream as an HBO show but I'm wondering if there was any backlash towards it.
 
First thing I thought of when I heard about this show is a book that came out last year with a similar premise called Underground Airlines (written by a white guy fwiw). It got a good reception and I've been meaning to read it. Wondering if anyone here has, and how it handles the subject.
Obviously it's not nearly as mainstream as an HBO show but I'm wondering if there was any backlash towards it.

This seemed to be the only controversy:

A profile in The New York Times called the novel "creatively and professionally risky" for Winters, as fellow author Lev Grossman was quoted describing Winters as "fearless" for being "a white writer going after questions of what it's like to be black in America." Corrigan wrote that a white author imagining the thoughts and experiences of a black character was potentially controversial. Other critics of the Times profile felt that Winters was being unfairly lionized, especially since the themes of science fiction, racism and slavery had in fact been explored before, most notably by African-American author Octavia Butler in her 1979 novel Kindred.

Winters had already acknowledged Butler's influence in a blog post published three weeks before the profile in the Times.
 
The problem with a CSA that maintains the institution of chattel slavery, where the economy by necessity has an agricultural cash crop focus, is that they could get utterly stomped by the rapidly developing and industrializing USA. Not to mention that that the European community would be staunchly on the side that didn't still legalize slavery.

You'd have to have a reason that the CSA won. They lost exactly because of the developing North, and that would be even truer a few decades on. And as you point out, modern slavery in a developed economy doesn't make any sense at all.

So what's this show going to be? a CSA where there's an apartheid-like structure? A third-world nation on the doorstep of the USA?

In better hands I could see a sensitive and interesting treatment of this stuff (perhaps even condemning where we are *right now*) but both HBO and the GoT showrunners haven't shown that kind of interest. We're going to get slave porn, instead. Bank on it.
 
You'd have to have a reason that the CSA won. They lost exactly because of the developing North, and that would be even truer a few decades on. And as you point out, modern slavery in a developed economy doesn't make any sense at all.

So what's this show going to be? a CSA where there's an apartheid-like structure? A third-world nation on the doorstep of the USA?

In better hands I could see a sensitive and interesting treatment of this stuff (perhaps even condemning where we are *right now*) but both HBO and the GoT showrunners haven't shown that kind of interest. We're going to get slave porn, instead. Bank on it.
I hope the premise is that the US are occupied by Canada and Mexico because the slavery system made them completely retarded economically to their neighbors
 
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