slightconfuse
Banned
I dont get the new prince
Do you discover a minion?
Warrior weapon seems pretty good
Do you discover a minion?
Warrior weapon seems pretty good
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A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
slightconfuse
Banned
Shaman weapon seems pretty bad.
Would be better in mage
Would be better in mage
Karsticles
Member
Copy your opponent's Patches on turn 3, GG.
Battlecry: All Discarded Minions come into play, all discarded spells return to hand.
slightconfuse
Banned
Warlock card probably won't be better than jaraxxus
What if the Hero Power is to add jaraxxus to your hand?
"Hero Power: Discard your opponent"
BananasWithGuns
Member
I can't tell if Lana'thel is slightly better or slightly worse than Bolvar. Activates while still in your deck but the condition to activate it is a bit more costly. Not to mention your odds of discarding it at some point during the game before getting it up to worthwhile stats doesn't seem insignificant. I don't know, I don't see why this had to be a legendary. They easily could have given Warlock their own Thing from Below/Kabal Crystal Runner related to discard and it would have probably been fine I think.
If I'm understanding it right then Taldaram is just the Faceless Manipulator effect? I guess it's possible that someone will find a way to completely break this card because of the lower mana cost but it seems really underwhelming to me right now.
Blood Razor is really good. Been a while since Warrior got a really strong weapon.
If I'm understanding it right then Taldaram is just the Faceless Manipulator effect? I guess it's possible that someone will find a way to completely break this card because of the lower mana cost but it seems really underwhelming to me right now.
Blood Razor is really good. Been a while since Warrior got a really strong weapon.
JustSomeone
Member
What happens if i'm in the middle of an arena run when blizzard gives the free runs?
You use the ticket on your next arena run.
Didn't get the chance to thank you, but thanks for the quest.Peléo;244458144 said:
Leaked from a video that only one person found, though, and Blizzard has since released more official art of Jaina with a purple streak in her hair, so the chances of them breaking from her official appearances keeps getting slimmer and slimmer. This card's art goes beyond being off-model, and into outright changing the character design.
This I like😍
https://youtu.be/Qk1nZd5D8ts
It's real.
Kind of funny that we get a shitty deaths bite AND a shitty loatheb in the same expansion and both are still good enough to see play. Really shows how strong those cards were.
It's real.
Kind of funny that we get a shitty deaths bite AND a shitty loatheb in the same expansion and both are still good enough to see play. Really shows how strong those cards were.
About time we got more Loatheb-type effects, obviously not as powerful, but still needed.
It's only horrible if your deck relies on spells. Otherwise, it's a positive effect. Especially against burn mages and the like.
"Oh, you wanted to cast Firelands Portal this turn? Sorry!"
It's a very strong effect. Loatheb is one of the best legendaries every printed and this is a more balanced version of that. For example, this card will be a huge disruption against miracle rogues and freeze mages when played at the right time.
Officerrob
Banned
A MUCH worse Loatheb, that still might be good enough to be played
BananasWithGuns
Member
Yeah that card is nice, just not sure exactly how nice. I feel like it wouldn't be too difficult to fit it in as a one of in a lot of decks though.
I see, I see... I only thought about the effect being negative on the user, not the opponent. This is interesting indeed. We'll see if it is enough when it also affects the user.
Officerrob
Banned
It's a lot more than slightly worse, same stats for one more mana plus three fewer spell penalty
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Every expansion we get the "it's just a worse X card", which is why most people are absolutely trash at card evaluation.
Nerubian helps counter board clears when ahead and burn when behind. Solid card.
EDIT: 6 mana is pretty much the perfect time for it. Prevent firelands portal, flamestrike/blizzard, dragonfire potion, spikeridged steed, auctioneer on turn6-7. Usually those are the critical swing turns.
EDIT2: people underestimating it forget that it screws over combo decks and jade druid. Plus it HAS to be removed by the opponent for them to get combos off instead of just stalling a turn like loatheb did. Loatheb is one of the most overrated cards because it is situational where this nerubian can be played any time and the effect persists.
EDIT: 6 mana is pretty much the perfect time for it. Prevent firelands portal, flamestrike/blizzard, dragonfire potion, spikeridged steed, auctioneer on turn6-7. Usually those are the critical swing turns.
EDIT2: people underestimating it forget that it screws over combo decks and jade druid. Plus it HAS to be removed by the opponent for them to get combos off instead of just stalling a turn like loatheb did. Loatheb is one of the most overrated cards because it is situational where this nerubian can be played any time and the effect persists.
True. But it is persistent. And it is also not tied to a battlecry, which means if you summon this card from your deck or hand somehow, its effect is immediately active.
Imagine your opponent going for a Dirty Rat+board clear combo and it pulls this. Ultimate punish.
Would you actually run this in a control deck so incredibly slow that your opponent has used very few burn cards and had ample time to play Medivh?
Most of those decks would be using enough of their own spells to not want to play this.
In your scenario, you would have to be playing it in a deck where you're not flooding the board and using it to cover from board clears, which seems incorrect to me.
Officerrob
Banned
True, but it can also just be a 6 mana 5/5 that gets killed by minions on board and the spell penalty goes away
Forcing your opponent to trade their minions into your 5/5 has value too.
I like the function. Probably too expensive though.
Nerubian looks like a counter to mage and mage alone. maybe paladin too if they start using high energy cards. I don't think it will see a lot of play, but it will definitely be a tech card of choice in certain instances.
Also, If people want to check out my rogue meme deck and see what they think, i'm happy for some input. So far its doing pretty well around rank 4 and 5. Still trying to work the kinks out.
The basic idea is to leverage low cost and removal in the early game and then pull some memes in order to ramp up the jade count. it is somewhat mid-rangey(ish) and the envenom weapon has been money so far.
2 x Backstab
2 x Preparation
2 x Shadowstep
2 x Eviscerate
1 x Gadgetzan Ferryman
2 x Jade Shuriken
2 x Jade Swarmer
2 x Loot Hoarder
2 x Coldlight Oracle
2 x Envenom Weapon
2 x Fan of Knives
2 x Mimic Pod
2 x Jade Spirit
1 x Spirit Singer Umbra
1 x Vilespine Slayer
1 x Aya Blackpaw
I'm definitely going to get thalnos in here now that i'm looking over the deck again, and maybe get rid of the mimic pods, but im not sure for what yet.
Lord of the Arena is better at doing that than this card. Hell a minion-based deck might not even try to clear it. Just proceed to smorc the face while you have a 5/5 with a downside on your side of the board.
No, you run it in an aggressive minion-based deck to protect yourself against board clears.
Also, this card will NEVER have a downside for you because if your deck relies on spells you wouldn't run this card. (Well, I don't want to say never. You might pick it in Arena early and hope to not get any important spells and then get screwed.)
bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
comes out the turn before flamestrike though, so sexy
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Any other 5 health minion, like lord of the arena (seriously why do I bother), easily just gets nuked and the minions hit face and continue to gain cumulative value.
the idea is to play it when there is no board to trade into it, I think it's meh tech, better than nothing. Basically shut downs miracle turn too, you can't play gadget and play spells. You pop a iceblock play this, you can be sure that you can't get burned down. Protect your board against brawl and similar potentially. That's a decent effect. Sure it's a worse Loatheb but you gotta take what you can. I think it could have easily been a 5 drop since the effect is symmetrical. 6 seems too much. Still it's not easy for mage/rogue/druid to remove this. It's much better than it might seems. It could stick around and result in a lot of damage. Even if it's traded into, it means that you prevented some tempo face push turn.
Lord of the arena comparison? gotta be joking.
I wish it wasn't epic though, a card like this could change arena meta game.
Considering the current meta game I think the card is a bit safe. You could make it cost 5 or make the effect like cost 5 more. It's a bit weak.
Lord of the arena comparison? gotta be joking.
I wish it wasn't epic though, a card like this could change arena meta game.
Considering the current meta game I think the card is a bit safe. You could make it cost 5 or make the effect like cost 5 more. It's a bit weak.
This card isn't the next coming of Loatheb (a card that had a powerful effect AND good stats for cost). It has an annoying effect which you can build your deck around to negate, so that's a plus. However the stats for cost is quite bad (Boulderfist Ogre is 6/7 for 6 y'all so this is 3 stat points down), so you are RELYING on that effect to have some value. Which it will in some cases and won't in others.
Another card which seems good in arena (get fucked Mages), but probably not worth it in constructed. In constructed, you're not going to reliably face opponents that this will significantly harm at that mana cost. For 6 (or 7) a Mage can still fireball this away and slam their board of cheap minions into your face. Most classes will have an answer by the time you can play this on curve. While it is a nice thing to exist to curb stuff like Freeze Mage in wild, I don't think this card sees meaningful play beyond cases like that where you can be sure the opponent is doing a heavy spell strategy.
Another card which seems good in arena (get fucked Mages), but probably not worth it in constructed. In constructed, you're not going to reliably face opponents that this will significantly harm at that mana cost. For 6 (or 7) a Mage can still fireball this away and slam their board of cheap minions into your face. Most classes will have an answer by the time you can play this on curve. While it is a nice thing to exist to curb stuff like Freeze Mage in wild, I don't think this card sees meaningful play beyond cases like that where you can be sure the opponent is doing a heavy spell strategy.
Of course, the idea is to run this on a minion based deck, not on a mage.
I thought that I made it pretty obvious that it was a joke about how people judge cards