adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You need to limit your Rage Orgasms Per Seconds.
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Hi-Fi Rush PS5 Review + Xbox Multi-Platform Releases - The Story So Far
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You need to limit your Rage Orgasms Per Seconds.
Not a mystery if you know your history"It's a mystery"
DF: The Touryst PS5 - The First 8K 60fps Console Game
Looking at the file info is useless, you are only getting info that it's been compiled for native execution, which means almost nothing (at least on Xbox so far), because many APIs are just in deprecated state (and will be for year or? hard to say, 2 years are mostly "Microsoft time"), thus if...
mansoor1980
Gold Member
is it?
The hell does that have to do with the shadows?
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yeah, made it a few months ago and posted it here lol.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The hell does ROPS have to do with the PC and Xbox already running at max preset ?
I haven't seen those threads at all & what do they have to do with Shadows?He is not demanding equivalent performance per se, he is demanding better QA, and greater attention in its first party games to the version of its own console. That is, situations where the XSX version (even the PC version) lacks even the same graphical and playable options as compared to PS5.
I give you the reason that he could have gone to other more current examples. In fact I could have gone to many recent multi-platform cases (these don't have more than 1 or 2 pages of discussion). where XSX has had better performance But I don't know where that would change the context.
The context is that games from MS's first party Studios are incomprehensibly exposing the version of their own console with results that are not understandable. Ghost Wire Tokyo is not understandable, what happened with Pentiment is not understandable and neither is it understandable with Hifi. MS's level of negligence when it comes to avoiding unnecessary controversy is incomprehensible.
It's funny, where was yours typical Rops reason in Suicide Squad, The Finals, Banishers,Brother a tale Of two, Tekken 8, Skull and Bones , Ápex Legends 120hz mode....in their threads of less than 2 discussion pages
That doesn't even make sense as a reply to me lol
I gave the answer to why PS5 has the better shadows
The only real thing is that you only appear to remind us of the advantage in Rops when the PS5 version is the one that comes out favored..... but you never appear to explain the situation to us when the XSX version is the one that wins even though the situation and the bases are the same....
Or of course, that's why in the PC version max it's Rops' problem...
.Surely the Rops' reason makes more sense than understanding that the XSX and PC versions from a year ago used different APIs and maximum shadow assets and now the PS5 port has benefited from extra polish in that regard.
Then, as often happens, a patch solves the problem and then we don't see you admitting that you were wrong.
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No question. When it will be free
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
We should probably at least watch the video or read the article before making another one of these comments.
The PC and Xbox versions are already running the highest equivalent preset for the game when it launched based on the games UE4 config.
Whichever studio ported the game to the PS5 did extra work over that. The PC version doesn't have that shadow preset in it either.
Hopefully thay clarifies why the ROPS comparison is meaningless here.
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ChorizoPicozo
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Xbox wants PS gamers to feel like First Class Citizens.
I watched the videoWe should probably at least watch the video or read the article before making another one of these comments.
The PC and Xbox versions are already running the highest equivalent preset for the game when it launched based on the games UE4 config.
Whichever studio ported the game to the PS5 did extra work over that. The PC version doesn't have that shadow preset in it either.
Hopefully thay clarifies why the ROPS comparison is meaningless here.
& If the PS5 didn't have the extra room to play with the devs wouldn't have added that extra shadow detail
Zathalus
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More room then a 4090 equipped PC?
King Dazzar
Member
At least the ports are being done well going by these first couple. Which is great. Bodes well for other ports in the future. Pretty strange video from DF though. Comes across as they wanted to present some analysis, but at the same time, its politicised and agenda driven. Lost respect on their PS5 Pro coverage recently too.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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polybius80
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closed hardware like consoles can get custom solutions in their version of an engine the devs developed themselves or borrowed, PC gpus usually don't get custom features, in the case of a 4090 it would be of the 4000 series not a specific 4090 exclusive feature that would be even more uncommon, for example a FSR version that may requires a specific series of GPU or superior due to certain vulkan/opengl/directx support, that is not an indicator that the PC GPU cannot do certain things but its what happens when you have variety of different hardware, developers put fixed values to the settings as default, usually PC-GPU's allows to use certain higher settings of a feature in an engine better than consoles thanks to their modern and more powerful hardware is just that you cannot expect all the games to have them and every custom improvement every single time
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Tom made a point that these PS5 ports "could even evangelize the Xbox platform to a wider audience". I think Tom sees it as his job to do a bit of evangelizing himself too. He was seriously butt hurt that PS5 ports ran better than the real thing and simply couldn't understand why MS let this happen.
polybius80
Member
the user was refereeing to shadows
perhaps the problem is exactly that there is a max preset that is too low
I higher number of ROPS can help with fillrate and help with things like shadows and simpler parts like the background that are also better in the PS5 version, so the developer maybe considered that the max preset could be changed in the code to allow for more than the engine allowed by default without presenting a problem, it is uncertain why xbox series x didn't had a customized value but a hardware limit is a possibility too given the difference in the number of ROPS , on PC depending the hardware you can get more performance than consoles but if there are only a "preset" you cannot expect every developer to make changes or make custom shaders of every single feature maybe a future version of UE will have more presets
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Yeah I agree, I understand that they were disappointed with the CPU only have a 10% boast but to lead with that and to spend so much time on it just seemed strange. Sony was able improve so much but to focus on the one thing that let you down don't make sense. What do they expect from a $500 box, this is just mid gen refresh. I still enjoy their content but I don't take what they say as the end all be all.
Because having 2X depth ROPs is a thing of the past & the game was built around modern specs I guess.
GHG
Member
This is why they have been so against it.
They are going to struggle to cope with it's very existence.
NonPhixion
Member
Wow Tango Gameworks did an excellent job porting this game to PS5. I imagine many people who work there are big PlayStation fans. Well done.
solidus12
Member
Tom and Alex are the worst. I like John, but he too always carefully chooses his words when there is a PS5 advantage in PS5 vs Xbox comparisons.
Rich, teraflops differentiator, Ledbetter loves Xbox as well.
The thing is, Digital foundry receive special treatment from Xbox (exclusive coverage of Xbox hardware), so they can’t be too harsh on them.
Rich, teraflops differentiator, Ledbetter loves Xbox as well.
The thing is, Digital foundry receive special treatment from Xbox (exclusive coverage of Xbox hardware), so they can’t be too harsh on them.
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Every PC doesn't have a 4090 but now that the game was ported to PS5 & used a higher setting maybe they can add it now
Killjoy-NL
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No chance, the only Xbox games I'll ever buy is Hellblade 2.
And if the rumor of a PS5 version of Minecraft is true, I'd buy it if it supports VR. Same as Skyrim VR.
But that'd be only for VR.
As for Hifi Rush, I'll believe it's a great game for those that like that kind of game.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
And thus we can see the ROPS have nothing to do with the shadow quality discrepancy. It took a roundabout way but you've finally reached the proper conclusion
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Just here to drive-by
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Did Alex steal your lunch money or something? You're in every DF thread with the "Bugaga" hate
solidus12
Member
I hate his attitude. He always acts in disdain when the crew discusses PS5 games, only for him to salivate over them once they release on pc.Did Alex steal your lunch money or something? You're in every DF thread with the "Bugaga" hate
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
So, as expected previously, PS5 is the best way to play Hi-Fi Rush.
Better graphics and DualSense implementation.
Better graphics and DualSense implementation.
GametimeUK
Member
It's crazy how videos like these make users on here behave. Questioning why the console with the higher spec sheet (on paper) doesn't perform as well as the console with the lower spec sheet is valid.
Not everything is a personal attack on your game console.
Not everything is a personal attack on your game console.
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Bojji
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This was one weird video, one version has better shadows and they make long video crying about why Xbox is under performing in some games?
Xbox is just not better than PS5 in every aspect, even on paper. Plus PS is rumored to have better tools for developers and at this point it's the lead platform for most games. They are seeking some conspiracy here, even from MS studios?
Xbox is just not better than PS5 in every aspect, even on paper. Plus PS is rumored to have better tools for developers and at this point it's the lead platform for most games. They are seeking some conspiracy here, even from MS studios?
Physiognomonics
Member
We have seen this in plenty others multiplatform games (better shadows on PS5 vs PC/XSX, in some games DF even spined the shadows looked too sharp on PS5, I'd like to kid here but I am not). I think it's just an API difference on PC/XSX with them using by default a different settings. This is not a conspiracy on any kind.The fact is that XSX uses the same shadows as the PC version to the maximum. Meanwhile, ironically, the PS5 port uses a higher shadow setting compared to PC and XSX.
At this point I come to think that it could be done on purpose to boost sales on PS5(aka the recent 120hz mode in Pentiment).
The 120hz exclusive mode on the other hand.
Radical_3d
Member
Came here as soon as I saw the shadow stuff. Maybe I was wrong all along and we don’t need a Pro.
Unknown Soldier
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They aren't really dickriding Microsoft, they just really hate Sony because Playstation killed the Saturn and the Dreamcast. Several of them are bitter Sega fans who can't let it go and they let their hatred of Sony infect their entire waking dreams
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Why should be better than on PC???
Negotiator101
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Phil is giving PS the superior version to give the FTC the middle finger.The fact is that XSX uses the same shadows as the PC version to the maximum. Meanwhile, ironically, the PS5 port uses a higher shadow setting compared to PC and XSX.
At this point I come to think that it could be done on purpose to boost sales on PS5(aka the recent 120hz mode in Pentiment)
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Never was Xbox exclusive and is best on PC.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Did you watch the video......
jm89
Member
FTC is a joke. I doubt any of the moves xbox is making have anything to do with them.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Why should he not salivate when a game gets its best possible version?
Zuzu
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I was just making a little joke. Also, the video showed that PS5 version has better shadows than the PC version, so graphical fidelity is higher on PS5 I believe. But if you’re referring to frame rate then yes PC can go higher than PS5.
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