Vincent Grayson
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That was great.
And the observation that McKinnon's Hillary is basically Zim? Perfect.
And the observation that McKinnon's Hillary is basically Zim? Perfect.
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Hillary Clinton in Pop culture through the years
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Bingo.
The perception that trolls are nothing but miserable basement dwellers is outdated and really not true. Anyone can be an anonymous troll, and they probably do it because it's fun.
One can think all of 4chan's shitposters are like that, but you don't know that. The anonymous posting means it could be anyone.
If one takes their ideology from South Park, then perhaps they need to look inward and find more to life.
blankempathy
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If your ideologies are being swayed by a tv show perhaps the tv show isn't the real problem.
Vulcano's assistant
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I miss political cameos in children cartoons. The jokes were never good, but the weirdness of it all gives me 90s nostalgia.
Wafflecakes
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I agree. Imo politicians need to be present in media that young people consume in a way that is not inherently political.
NinjaCoachZ
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This was a really cool video. It was interesting to touch on the ideologies of why these various portrayals existed, how most of them seem so different, and evolve over time. It kind of gave me some perspective since I'm not American and only really became aware of Hillary in the '08 election.
Also, wow, major props to Teresa Barnwell for being a Hillary impersonator almost as long as Hillary's been in office.
Holy crap, seeing her name was "Lindsay" made me wonder for a second, but I had no idea it was actually her.
Also, wow, major props to Teresa Barnwell for being a Hillary impersonator almost as long as Hillary's been in office.
Holy crap, seeing her name was "Lindsay" made me wonder for a second, but I had no idea it was actually her.
Wafflecakes
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Everyone is influenced by all the media they are exposed to. This isn't new or something to be ashamed of.
Anyone who claims that they are not influenced by media are just so out of touch that they don't realize what their influences are.
Whom_Gods_Annoy
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I don't think anyone was arguing that media doesn't influence people. To have a single show, and have it be South Park of all things, almost totally effect your perception of the world that's on you.
Nah, the show has pretty much always sucked and been right-wingy. *shrugs*
The last season in particular was far and away one of the worst seasons that they've ever produced due to how much it embraced the alt-right and their nonsense.
This topic isn't about SP but given it appeared in the video, it is tangentially related and...yea...it tends to be absolute crap. Their "jokes" about Hillary were as equally dumb as pretty much everything else that appears on the show.
Trojita
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Actually it's the best show and nothing you're saying in this post is true, for reasons we already explained. See examples of SP calling republicans the tool of the devil and the way they're currenfly portraying Trump now as a bumbling idiot that has no idea what he's doing. Calling it right wing is a laughable and embarrassing comment to anyone who watches the show.
Whom_Gods_Annoy
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Not to mention, as I've pointed out in the the OT, that in this season they put reminiscing about the Reagan administration alongside homophobia and racism.
I'm just calling it what it is. Last season was nothing but a tirade against minorities, women, the left-wing, etc. etc. etc. They've done that for quite some time. It was a huge embrace of the alt-right and they ate that slop up hardcore. The fact I've seen such an absolutely horrible season also praised non-stop on Gaf is frankly speaking alarming.
Not to mention, again, they fuel that both sides nonsensical apathy that so many embrace because they can't think for themselves unless a shit-tier show like SP tells them how to think.
It's one of the worst shows in modern television and nothing's going to change that for me.
QuantumZebra
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Calm waterfall
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You are not calling it what it is. You are just making some asinine accusation without even knowing what you are talking about. Calling South Park alt right wing is idiotic, laughable and very ignorant.
I'm reflecting on the content of the show's character. It often appeals to alt-righters/the right-wing and people who espouse that "both sides" bullcrap. I've seen quite a lot of it to garner a grasp on how terrible it is. Sorry, not sorry, that we disagree on this.
Funnily enough, remember when family guy made this argument an a season or two later they were full on soapboax and propaganda?
His Majesty
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anyone who claims South Park to be an alt-right show clearly hasn't been following the last two seasons
or the first 18
fantastic show and social commentary is even more on point today than before
or the first 18
fantastic show and social commentary is even more on point today than before
Haha at Ebert looking for deep meaning in a movie about puppets. Originally they wanted to do a shot for shot recreation of Day After Tomorrow but couldn't get the rights. It's funny to imagine that Ebert was watching the puppet sex scene or the "Dicks, Pussies, and Assholes" scene, taking notes, and wondering "Are they saying we're puppets?"
The last seasons derision of minorities was the peak of alt-right. How you can deny this astounds me.
The social commentary was even further off-point than it ever has been....which it has pretty often, to be frank.
Elaborate this.
Nihilism is a pretty good description of South Park's politics. Nothing matters and you're a dumbass if you care about anything.
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thepotatoman
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He couldn't stop to the point where he had to leave the house of his pregnant wife. It seems like a pretty miserable situation to have that difficult of a time giving up that outlet to his stress.
I think this is generally pretty true nowadays, but I a lot of the older episodes had very explicit morals to them (This is probably where the conservative stigma comes from, see Starbucks vs Tweek), but they've used Cartman as a way to parody groups and people that don't like ever since they made him out to be a complete villain instead of just a spoiled brat. The Zimmerman episode is a good example where he jumps on gun rights and stand your ground laws purely out of racist paranoia.
Trojita
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This is what I want to hear.
"Although the South Park boys wrote The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs simply to shock and offend people, readers delve too deeply into the meaning behind the book, finding hidden allegories and symbolism that the actual authors insist are not present. People with conflicting philosophies, including liberals and conservatives, and pro-choice and pro-life advocates, attempt to claim that the same work conveys and validates their own ideology"
This is just too perfect.
JeTmAn81
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Cosigned, but only if they lock down Kate McKinnon for the role. Probably my favorite SNL impersonation since Darrell Hammond as Bill. Tina Fey as Sarah Palin is up there as well, of course.
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thepotatoman
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Yeah, I have to admit, Trump isn't the godsend to political comedy that he was once thought to be.
You can't really satirize someone that's parody enough all on his own.
Skits about Hillary have been way funnier.
JeTmAn81
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Seems that way, though it's not impossible that she could come back from time to time to do Hillary. I can't see anybody else doing those crazy eyes as well as her.
DietRob
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This failed because of the bad title. fyi.
the title of this thread is clear and tells us exactly what we are going to get.
Rentahamster
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Daily Show fans might take issue with that statement.
The Daily Show is one of the most choir preachingest shows on TV though.
I don't understand how you don't see it.
That season was all about embracing the alt-right boogeyman of "PC Culture" and attacking safe spaces. Incidentally both are concepts that minorities benefit directly from. The alt-right despises "PC culture" and safe spaces because they don't like being criticized for the hateful fucks they are. Period. And SP told them "hey, you're right to despise them, oh also, virtue signaling is totes real and not at all a meaningless buzzword you made up because you can't believe that anyone could genuinely care about minorities without being out for themselves". That's literally all that season was. It was asinine to a degree that SP has never been before. Which is hard since the show already sucked pretty hard.
In essence, SP gave them an outlet and justification for their beliefs with how over-the-top and villainous they made both concepts while attempting to showcase how little people who support minorities actually care. It's the most ridiculous and off-point commentary possible. It was a season that was nothing but a mouthpiece for the vile shit spewed by alt-righters. I couldn't dislike that season and SP as a whole even more if I tried.
I seriously don't get how anyone can not see it.
Their Hillary commentary just further nails in the coffin. I forgot that episode even existed but geezus is it cringe-worthy.
When you're not the one getting punched down, it's pretty damn easy to look past things.
I suppose you're right.
And punching down is a really good way to describe SP's comedy.
Silver Arrows
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Indeed.
Criticism of safe spaces is not really the same as "derision of minorities." That's quite a leap to make, and I understand why others wouldn't see it.
This almost reads like a parody. Is this a real post? What is this garbage? If PC Principal was over the top and villainous than what was Mr Garrison taking the charge of the opposing viewpoint? You are embarrassing yourself calling it alt-right with how they portrayed Trump. In the season before that, they were in support of transgender issues. Doesn't like something the alt-right would be a fan of.
metalslimer
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South Park is not an alt-right show. The biggest problem with last season is how not once did they acknowledge how safe spaces have helped minorities: the lgbt community in particular. Theyou go after hardcore right wing politics far more than they do the left but the whole conclusion to last season was just stupid.
wesleyshark
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The opposite of this. Southpark is one of the most intelligent shows on TV.
HappyPuppy
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Heard about her thanks to the Hercules thread a while ago, saw this video yesterday and was kinda sad how much shit she gets for being a woman i̶n̶ ̶p̶o̶w̶e̶r̶.
Subscribed to Chez Lindsay, liked her work. Wasn't feeling her Nostalgia Chic content seemed weaker compared to her newer stuff. Also discovered hairy bearded hot guy Rantasmo through her which was fun.
Was interested in finding out more about how Hilary is perceived in modern times and how it got there but this thread turned into a South Park OT
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