I actually think it's pretty fun. Some matches can be pretty exciting, the "super" mechanic builds a lot of tension in a match, when and where your opponent is going to use it etc.
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Holiday BOMBA: Playstation AllStars Charts 38th Week 1 UK
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I actually think it's pretty fun. Some matches can be pretty exciting, the "super" mechanic builds a lot of tension in a match, when and where your opponent is going to use it etc.
Same as most other Sony titles, give it time. They'll report a million or two shipped after re-releases, bundles, free giveaways, etc.
The PSP broke sales records here too when it first launched (which I believe still hasn't been topped? Hell I'm pretty sure the PS3 is second on that list too). Vita software charted phenomenally well. It's sad to see the more fervent 'fans' trash a market, or dismiss it in such a way, when it's a market that has supported Sony so well, and undoubtedly one Sony is thankful for. I'll be interested to hear what those who are blaming the market will have to say about the success the likes of The Last Of Us and Beyond Souls will have in it next year.
Haha oh GAF.
Personally, I enjoy it but it presents itself more like a Capcom fighter rather than a Smash bros game. It's fun competitively but pretty bare-bones in the single player content. You can unlock a bunch of things but they're mostly for personalizing your profile to show off online.
So the same as everyone else?
Visualante2
Member
Still....
It explains it, I guess.. but it doesn't make any fucking sense. Why would Microsoft let retailers do this? It's really fucking bad imo because people who are interested in racing games aren't going to buy Horizon for a while now..
Schlachtor
Banned
I bought it day 1, like all the other SCE 1st Party games.
I've always had a looooot of fun with SCE's games. Best 1st party games, this gen (imo).
But damn.... I could not finish Starhawk. I hated it :/
frankie_baby
Member
As has already pointed out this is one of Sony's big titles for the Xmas holiday, people are Xmas shopping already, no one bought this, yes its a holiday bomba
it's not surprising at all though, when it comes to crossover games like this, well loved characters from games that didnt sell well like Vyse from Skies of Arcadia will draw in far more people than characters from big franchises people have no or weak attachment to.
LiquidSolid
Member
The material Jin-Roh was a part of (the Kerberos saga) was actually created in 1986/87 and the design of the armour was hugely influenced by Nazi's and Stormtroopers. It wasn't a hugely original design.
But if you think that has anything to do with how iconic something is, you should probably go look up the definition of the word.
Forza 4 is bundled with X360 in Europe, hell all the Forza games before it have. Horizon is just too new to be included in it I guess, I would not be suprised if next year it does show up in a bundle.
Starhawk's SP was horrible. MP was decent although nowhere near as good as Warhawk's.
I doubt will see another entry again, would love to see another Warhawk though.
frankie_baby
Member
There's been way more ads for lbpk than this, that sold pretty shit too just not as shit
personally I've seen a lot more advertising for this than LBPK. Certainly TV and PS blog is pushing this way more than LBPK.
UnblessedSoul
Member
Didn't see any ads about it, didn't even know it was releasing
If you're talking about the single player campaign, that was an absolute abomination and the reason why this game had a 76ish on metacritic. I agree that it was bad, but I can't accept the fact that people think the multiplayer is bad at how it currently is as of this patch. If it had launched as a online only game like warhawk did, I expect it to atleast hurdled a 9/10.
And no I am not biasing or in denial. The online is that good. Massive environments where you can fly, drive, and walk with such detail? I can zoom into a tree with my shotgun and see textures in that. They put a lot of time into these environments and thats what gets me. Nobody ever takes notice in that.
I mean, especially the co-op prospector maps. Last week I made a server and just ran aimlessly into mountainy high areas of "Site 16" and there was so much stuff that surprised me. The devs only utitlize like 1/20th of that map in prospector. There was no reason to build that other area but it was created regardless. Especially when you only aim to protect the rift extractor, not many people will venture out into outer territories of each map, but I did, and that map had no use of hawks either.
A damn shame, maybe they just couldn't find the time to utilize the entire maps they made but the homeworlds and prospector maps like that always get to me. Should have released them to the online PvP as well, but they didn't and I will have no idea why.
Makes me think how many maps they must have created and never implemented into the game.
But its not just the maps, the gameplay is where its at, and with the exception of hawks they implemented everything in flawlessly.
frankie_baby
Member
Everyone obviously sees different programmes so different adverts, personally I've see precisely one advert for this but tonnes for lbpk
RobotRocker
Member
Important thing people seem to not notice since the argument has turned to "Smash Clone". Again.
The pricing on it was abominable. The price range on it was £45-55 in a lot of stores. Even Supermarkets. Meanwhile, Hitman and Lego LOTR were around £30-35 in most places as a week one deal (I think Sainsbury's even had Hitman for £25 on day 1). The cheapest is Amazon at £38. But people are going to turn their noses up at a game that's pretty light on content and costs a good chunk of their income when they can pick up two new releases for the same price in some stores.
Fix your goddamn stupid pricing, Sony and you might have less of a bomba.
The pricing on it was abominable. The price range on it was £45-55 in a lot of stores. Even Supermarkets. Meanwhile, Hitman and Lego LOTR were around £30-35 in most places as a week one deal (I think Sainsbury's even had Hitman for £25 on day 1). The cheapest is Amazon at £38. But people are going to turn their noses up at a game that's pretty light on content and costs a good chunk of their income when they can pick up two new releases for the same price in some stores.
Fix your goddamn stupid pricing, Sony and you might have less of a bomba.
Schlachtor
Banned
Yeah, I've "tried" to play the single player campaign ... afterwards, I could not even touch the multiplayer.
Too bad! I'm a big "space opera / space sim" fan. I thought Starhawk would be SCE's new Colony Wars and not .... "something" like this :/
Empty Space
Member
I know, right
Well I wanted to see the game to do well even if I don't pick it up for a while. The world needs more party oriented fighting games. Every time family comes over for any extended period of time SSB gets played and it would be nice to have a bit more variety than that.
Bomber Bob
Banned
sorry guys, but nobody care about sony and theirs shitty characters
While that's true, I would point out that there's no *rush* to buy stuff for Xmas now. Some folks might pick it up as soon as it's launched, of course, but others might wait until some time in December.
That said, I'm not convinced it'll have that big an impact at Christmas either, but I don't think we can take *this* as evidence that it's failing to sell for Christmas.
Sounds a bit like what Bumhead said.
Sony should have aimed to get this game out at the original release date and at a competitive price. That delay and price tag may have been what pushed sales down from underwhelming to horrible
You should have gone into the multiplayer instead. And to make things easy, tried out ground pounder so you don't have to deal with the one sided A2G pilots.
I think one of the biggest flaws in this game was allowing the mech mode with hawk utilities, but at the same time, its incredible to use.
I think the main problem with hawks though is that compared to warhawk, the A2A and even A2G is simply not interesting and it does not provide a challenge. It seems like the same endless loop if you know what you are doing, and even with the numerous patches to remove OP weapons, I can safely say its heavily balanced now, but its just not as fun as getting into a sidewinder and going TPS, though still an incredible experience.
I stand by my point, Starhawk is still my Multiplayer GOTY.
Kenshin001
Member
Game deserved to bomb. No one wanted a building block game, transforming hawks or some crap story. People just wanted Warhawk in space, like Star Wars/Death Star stuff. Not hard to do and they should have listened to the fans. I feel sad for the huge wasted opportunity. They could have added ground only mechs into the mix and the game would have been godly.
They did. Nobody bothered to play this past launch, because the last patch added a lot of stuff.
Grizzlys are okay, certainly not the mech I anticipated and hoped for but they are great for assault.
Forza 4 and Skyrim (DL code) are bundled with the 250GB (non Kinect) system worldwide I believe.
That said, both Forza 4 and Skyrim were sticking around on the charts for a long time before the bundle.
Schlachtor
Banned
Great post!
Would read again....
The price difference is the same here in Ireland. So far the only price I found for the game is 60 euro while the other games you mentioned are in the 45-50 euro range, which has been a regular deal with new releases for a while now.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Obviously 90% of folks bought it on PSN.
In all seriousness, while I didn't expect this game to have 90+ on MC and sell like SSB, I did expect it to do better in both sales and reviews....
In all seriousness, while I didn't expect this game to have 90+ on MC and sell like SSB, I did expect it to do better in both sales and reviews....
mugurumakensei
Member
US and UK mirror each other. If it doesn't sell in Japan. It's a bomba.
NemesisPrime
Banned
This was wildly predicted by a lot of people.
But... I think, in the end, it will probably have a healthy life as a pack-in game.
But... I think, in the end, it will probably have a healthy life as a pack-in game.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Other than GT and God of War, this describes most of Sony's first party titles, sadly.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Yeah, the OPM 6/10 probably hasn't helped its sales here.
Bomber Bob
Banned
BrokenEchelon
Banned
Not surprised. The game is as exciting as stale white bread.
Yeah. The roster was pretty pathetic. It just shows you how much third parties attributed to the PlayStation's brand success.
Yeah. The roster was pretty pathetic. It just shows you how much third parties attributed to the PlayStation's brand success.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
I think it's more of a recognition issue than an adoration one. Everyone can identify Mario and some of the Nintendo basics.
DragonSworne
Banned
Sony doesn't do well in UK. Let's wait for global performance before claiming bomba status
All the kids who grew up with iconic playstation characters are now in their adulthoods.
Here in the uk you can divide the HD gaming market into two The adults and the young teenage segment of the market. The former are all sony fans and the latter are all xbox fans.
The problem for sony is the market is haeavily geared for teenagers and young kids who usually buy the lionshare of the software in the UK
Here in the uk you can divide the HD gaming market into two The adults and the young teenage segment of the market. The former are all sony fans and the latter are all xbox fans.
The problem for sony is the market is haeavily geared for teenagers and young kids who usually buy the lionshare of the software in the UK
Diddy Kong
Banned
This.
I'm really surprised though..I would have thought this would be a HUGE hit for Sony fans. What goes on?
Well this is just a straight out lie
The reason this didn't sell? Because it's looked awful since day 1. For a 1st party franchise I cannot get over how bland the whole presentation is. Sony should have gone all out bonkers with this. It needed that Street Fighter IV cartoon-esq look to it and be as completely over the top as that game was.
Outside of the topic on here, no one was talking about it or particularly cared
Unsurprising. Participated in the beta for this and the LBP racer, and was shocked by how underbaked they were even then.
Sony needs to retool this concept-first development objective amongst its first and second-parties. They release so much stuff, with so little of it approaching the quality of the other platform holders' first-party efforts, and considering the wealth of talent they have in their stable, something is fundamentally rotten about that.
Sony needs to retool this concept-first development objective amongst its first and second-parties. They release so much stuff, with so little of it approaching the quality of the other platform holders' first-party efforts, and considering the wealth of talent they have in their stable, something is fundamentally rotten about that.