The Hollywood Reporter stated that for decades, Hollywood operated on a racist premise that "a film featuring a black cast wouldn't necessarily reach and play to a wider audience" well, moviegoers have proven that premise wrong to Hollywood: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...d-comedy-curse-proves-power-diversity-1023740
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Hollywood operated on a racist premise, moviegoers proving premise wrong to Hollywood
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TheSkullPrince
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I should have spent my money on Girls Trip instead of Dunkirk.
Mushroomer25
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I mean, this is coming from the same director who did The Best Man Holiday - which was another successful all-black ensemble comedy. This doesn't seem like that shocking of a success story.
Alex_Mexico
Member
I thought this was going to be about recent movies under whitewashing controversies that ended up bombing in the BO.
Another notch against the "but but but if we put brown people in a film the customers will run away!". How many notches do we need before we can retire this stupid narrative.
I mean it plays into the same narrative so it works either way.
I thought this was going to be about recent movies under whitewashing controversies that ended up bombing in the BO.
I mean it plays into the same narrative so it works either way.
Tyler Perry films aren't aimed at a general audience.Quality aside they've been ignoring the success of Tyler Perry's films for well over a decade.
lightskintwin
Banned
These same headlines acting "shocked" about Black films opening big and making money over the years is always predictable despite the fact this has been happening for over a decade.
sturgboski
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Quality aside they've been ignoring the success of Tyler Perry's films for well over a decade.
Everytime I think of Tyler Perry I think of the American Dad episode where Roger is trying to set Steve up as a super hero through editing. When Steve asks how that is possible Roger says how is a film editor and that "Tyler Perry's movie are really good until I edit them" and I laugh.
But yeah, there's been at least one Madea movie a year for a while now. Also what about Get Out which I believe released this year? Shouldn't the universal praise for that film also have been a sign?
Why isn't Girls Trip certified fresh yet?
Holy shit, they were expecting a rotten were they?
VeryGooster
Banned
The House and Rough Night stay losing meanwhile.
Tyler Perry films aren't aimed at a general audience.
They are still consist of a black casts and make money. That and I know a lot of white folks who really fucking love those movies as well.
Anxious to see Black Panther smash the BO.
The thinkpieces on Black Panther will be amazing.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I think the barrier has always been international audiences. I can't believe it's 2017 and we're celebrating that Americans will watch movies with diverse casts.... I'd have thought that was a given :/
'Girls Trip' Box Office Breaks R-Rated Comedy Curse, Proves Power of Diversity
All black cast? Doesn't seem very diverse to me
waiting for the non-joke arguments like this when BP comes out
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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"Must be lightning in a bottle. Now excuse me as I turn this character named Akemi white."
Claude Augario
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Tyler Perry films aren't aimed at a general audience.
Madea Goes to Jail almost did $100 million domestic.
I don't know how much more general you can get.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
I think the barrier has always been international audiences. I can't believe it's 2017 and we're celebrating that Americans will watch movies with diverse casts.... I'd have thought that was a given :/
If that were the case, the last couple of Fast and Furious movies shouldn't have been such major hits.
lightskintwin
Banned
Madea Goes to Jail almost did $100 million domestic.
I don't know how much more general you can get.
Boomerang's all black cast made 131 million globally in 1992.
The biggest kept secret in Hollywood is that Black films don't lose money.
I think the barrier has always been international audiences. I can't believe it's 2017 and we're celebrating that Americans will watch movies with diverse casts.... I'd have thought that was a given :/
Nah, it only started becoming about international audiences once Hollywood needed a new excuse. Even that doesn't seem to be working out too well now as the Fast and the Furious franchise has shown.
Making a lot of money doesn't mean it's a general audience film. It just means it made a lot of money! (lightskintwin's dead-on about these types of films being very consistently profitable)Madea Goes to Jail almost did $100 million domestic.
I don't know how much more general you can get.
thewaffles
Member
Why isn't Girls Trip certified fresh yet?
I believe they need 80 reviews and it only has 73. Seems kind of arbitrary though.
This should've been disproven after Straight Outta Compton did gangbusters at the box office.
I think it's more of a story because while SOC was pretty god damn legendary, Girl's Trip is pretty much a wet fart. Race is not a prohibitive factor when it comes to ticket sales, regardless of what Stu Snyder-esque people in hollywood would have you believe.
ElBoxyBrown
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Tyler Perry films aren't aimed at a general audience.
White people love Madea.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
This should've been disproven after Straight Outta Compton did gangbusters at the box office.
And Hidden Fences.....
White people love Madea.
Seriously. I know more white people who love Madea than black folks.
Prince of Space
Banned
Anxious to see Black Panther smash the BO.
People honestly thinking BP to fall in the lower end of MCU grosses are in for a LEGIT SHOOK moment, methinks.
No it should have been disporven so many times ago.This should've been disproven after Straight Outta Compton did gangbusters at the box office.
I mean, this is coming from the same director who did The Best Man Holiday - which was another successful all-black ensemble comedy. This doesn't seem like that shocking of a success story.
yep, and you always getting the shockling articles "What something outside the Hollywood zeitgeist is succeeding?"
broncobuster
Banned
Those Sony email leaks were illuminating about the attitudes in Hollywood.
Probably still someone using Soul Plane as an example of why they shouldn't finance a movie with a primarily black cast.
Probably still someone using Soul Plane as an example of why they shouldn't finance a movie with a primarily black cast.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Of course international audiences will watch movies with diverse casts. But I'm referring to the mentality in Hollywood. It's not domestic audiences they are worried about, it's international ones. They think it's easier to sell a movie in multiple regions by trading on the safe casting of white privilege. I agree they're wrong and perpetuating a cycle of racism by being "risk averse" in this sense.If that were the case, the last couple of Fast and Furious movies shouldn't have been such major hits.
lightskintwin
Banned
Just to put things in perspective. Almost Christmas, an all Black cast low budget (17 million) comedy film, that came out in December of last year grossed more domestically than two big budget blockbuster action films starring "A list" talent in Ghost in the Shell (110 million budget) and King Arthur Legend of the Sword (175 million).
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
This should've been disproven after Straight Outta Compton did gangbusters at the box office.
It should have been disproven as far back as Night of the Living Dead.
Those Sony email leaks were illuminating about the attitudes in Hollywood.
Probably still someone using Soul Plane as an example of why they shouldn't finance a movie with a primarily black cast.
Yeah i knew the game was rigged when they were gun shy about the equalizer sequel staring Denzel Washington
lightskintwin
Banned
It should have been disproven as far back as Night of the Living Dead.
The reality is it's not just about money despite everybody trying to claim it is, Hollywood wants/needs white actors to tell the stories they want to tell and will give every opportunity for them to star in their big budget blockbuster films.
Just to put things in perspective. Almost Christmas, an all Black cast low budget (17 million) comedy film, that came out in December of last year grossed more domestically than two big budget blockbuster action films starring "A list" talent in Ghost in the Shell (110 million budget) and King Arthur Legend of the Sword (175 million).
Hidden Figures raked in over 200 million as well.
Fancyarcher
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Madea Goes to Jail almost did $100 million domestic.
I don't know how much more general you can get.
I think he's referring more to the fact that Tyler's film up until A Madea Halloween have generally had poor legs, and thus appear to have a limited "church" audience.
Boomerang's all black cast made 131 million globally in 1992.
The biggest kept secret in Hollywood is that Black films don't lose money.
Especially in Tyler Perry's case where he is the sole controller of everything- sets, scripts, actors. He's literally a one man business. Efficient as heck. There was a 60 Minutes segment on him a few years back. Awe inspiring.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Maybe so.Nah, it only started becoming about international audiences once Hollywood needed a new excuse. Even that doesn't seem to be working out too well now as the Fast and the Furious franchise has shown.