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(IGN) PS3 Dev Kit Pictures (Final ones??)
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CassidyIzABeast
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oh yeah, don't want to die at the hands on a ninjaSolidSnakex said:
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
yahso said:
I'd rather not....
sonycowboy
Member
yahso said:
:|
Zombie James
Banned
Looks like it's slimmed down nicely 
I would like headphone jacks!Vark said:
Some of us actually do have nice 140+ dollar high quality headphones!!
OMG playing MGS2 on PS2 with these sony monitor headphones let me hear how everything was SUPPOSE to sound. When I heard the alert sound, I crapped my pants every time, they made me jump and pause the game. Oh man, and the 1st time i heard it....i almost died. It makes you actually not want to get caught every, so you take extra steps for precaution. I never would have play so uptight w/o those headphones.I only played through the game with the headphones once.
Funny thing is, is that this was like my 30th time playing through the game and the headphones made it like a new experience...my heart raced the whole way though....I didnt have the radar on so that increased my jumpiness.
Don't take dev kit features as an indication of what you'll get in a retail model. There's sound reasoning for a headphone jack on a dev kit, for example, that probably wouldn't translate to a console (i.e. a developer needing to plug headphones in in a work environment where others should not be disturbed etc.)
sonycowboy
Member
mr_nothin said:
Why would you want that? If you want simple stereo heaphones, you could just plug them into your TV or receiver. It's a feature that would be used by <<< 1% of folks, I'd think.
fortified_concept
Banned
yahso said:
WHY? Why so many new junior menbers act like the teamxbox retards? Seriously was there a thread on these forums or something encouraging them to join GAF, because we don't like fanboys like them? It's quite obvious that the biggest problem the last few days is not E3 but some total idiots who recently bacame members.
And just for the record not all junior members are like that.
sonycowboy
Member
Odysseus said:And how many people do you think will be dual-outputting 1080p HDMI signals?
At least 1?
Actually, I honestly expected them to drop it by now. Not that it's a huge cost, but it's simply NOT going to be supported by games in a meaningful way.
However, given that the system will be multitasking with OS stuff taking a good part of the system, you could imagine that multimedia, online, or very simple game updates could go to the second screen which might just be a pretty killer app at little to no dev cost.
Zombie James
Banned
WalkMan said:
Depends on whether it'll be external to begin with.
Confusion Illusion
Banned
sky said:
Louder than the stock Intel [P4] prescott fans? Cause those were loud!
Zombie James
Banned
DigitalSoul said:
I don't think the CPU fan will be that loud at all.
Cell @ 4GHz is supposed to have a TDP of only 48W. For comparison, a 90nm Prescott running @ 3.2GHz has a TDP of 103W (the last section on that page).
Actually, it's not a headphone jack. Look at the picture again, you can see that it says FOOT SW...
That's right, the return of the foot switch! Those of you who have used PS1/PS2 performance analyzers know what I'm talking about, aww yeah...
But aside from the fact that it isn't actually a headphone jack...
QFT.
That's right, the return of the foot switch! Those of you who have used PS1/PS2 performance analyzers know what I'm talking about, aww yeah...
But aside from the fact that it isn't actually a headphone jack...
ninge said:
QFT.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Argyle and/or Ninge, are you guys working on any next gen games these days??......I think I remember Ninge was taking a little development hiatus after finishing up Ultimate Spiderman.....
So what are you guys up to and will we see it @ E3
So what are you guys up to and will we see it @ E3
Retail hardware = car engines.Vark said:
Devkits = jet turbines.
It tends to be like that for all hardware (relatively) - the manufacturers just don't put much priority on noise levels of devkits.
Overall I still say PS2 kits are loudest though, unless I was just so unlucky with getting all the extra noisy ones.
truffleshuffle83
Banned
its been known for awhile but ill say it again. the ps3 is dead
lochnesssnowman
Member
Fafalada said:
I never saw the early PS2 kits, but this thing kills the current Tool kits for noise. You really notice it when you switch it off, it's like stepping out of a blizzard.
Still June for final stuff I guess.
Phoenix
Member
gofreak said:No Oblivion for PS3! It does not yet know the meaty whirr of a PS3 dev kit
The question really is do the folks who make NetImmerse/GameBryo (the middleware that runs Oblivion) have a devkit.
I think perhaps there isn't a clear understanding of what middleware does. When you write a game entirely using middleware, you can run everywher that middleware does.
Phoenix said:
I think they're part of the middleware program.
Phoenix said:
Yeah, but a developer still needs to get it up and running on a particular machine itself, and compiled for that machine. And the performance profile for middleware may differ on different platforms, such that tweaks may be necessary, the dev may want to patch content etc. also. I doubt they could get a kit a month before launch, for example, and pop a port out just like that
Phoenix
Member
gofreak said:
They are for certain. That was a more rhetorical question.
Yeah, but a developer still needs to get it up and running on a particular machine itself, and compiled for that machine. And the performance profile for middleware may differ on different platforms, such that tweaks may be necessary, the dev may want to patch content etc. also. I doubt they could get a kit a month before launch, for example, and pop a port out just like that
It really depends on how 'ready' they are for the other platform. The compilation phase is almost a non-issue. You may have some platform code that you need to change, but for the most part your engine is going to compile and run on the first day. Now you'll spend some time after this tweaking for the platform and in these cases - swapping out shaders for something more friendly for the host platform. If a dev wanted to patch something, that has nothing to really do with the middleware - they could have been doing that while waiting for dev kits.
Where you are going to spend most of your port time is in texture formats, adjusting cache sizes, shaders, and most annoying - controller differences.
That said, if the team has only those things to do - it is highly possible that they could submit content for platform review of a beta form in 60 days and be ready to launch it into retail in 90. That is definitely possible.
The problem that normally arises is that people go 'beyond the middleware' in someway - import some constant or library that doesn't compile properly on the target platform (though that is becoming more and more rare these days). But to go soup to nuts from platform to platform is not a massive excercise for most well written middleware as the actual platform itself is abstracted from you by the middleware itself.