Don't be fooled, it's a PC inside that PS4.
it's funny how StevieP gets away with so many bull shit claims. I want a list of all games that will be downgraded bro!
@ e3 2012 we knew which games were running on GTX 680's (Luminous tech demo, Watch Dogs and Star wars 1313, which used 3 gtx 680's).
Pre order totally canceled
Can't trust Sony with hardware at all man.
PS4 = PC
PC = XBOX ONE
PS4 = XBOX ONE ?!!
This fool is 100% wrong. Proof straight from the Gamescom floor courtesy of PlayStationer.net. Still can't believe this guy gets paid to post this nonsense.
PS4 = PC
PC = XBOX ONE
PS4 = XBOX ONE ?!!
Yeah, I think he even claimed the February demo of Killzone was on a 680 even though the tech presentation outlined clearly what most of the stuff in the dev kit was. Sony has been very careful to be clear about what they're showing on after the E3 2005 presentation. So far only the Watch_Dogs February demo has been the only PS4 presentation not running on a devkit.it's funny how StevieP gets away with so many bull shit claims. I want a list of all games that will be downgraded bro!
@ e3 2012 we knew which games were running on GTX 680's (Luminous tech demo, Watch Dogs and Star wars 1313, which used 3 gtx 680's).
So basically what people are saying is that when they go on those night time talk shows and they show the ps4 on the table... There's really a pc underneath? Sorry but thats bullshit.
This fool is 100% wrong. Proof straight from the Gamescom floor courtesy of PlayStationer.net. Still can't believe this guy gets paid to post this nonsense.
Yeah, I think he even claimed the February demo of Killzone was on a 680 even though the tech presentation outlined clearly what most of the stuff in the dev kit was. Sony has been very careful to be clear about what they're showing on after the E3 2005 presentation. So far only the Watch_Dogs February demo has been the only PS4 presentation not running on a devkit.
At gamescom it appeared to be that way
What's that mysterious Sony Box under the PS4?
and here
Why are cables coming out of those boxes and where is the eyetoy camera plugged in?
Where is the Power and HDMI cable? Why is there an ugly white toblerone covering where the cables plug in?
What if when we open our brand new PS4 boxes, there is a high end PC instead, with a "sorry" note signed by Kaz?
The back of the console?
I know. I'm just saying it's all been devkits and not high end PCs. It'll take me a long time to compile all of the quotes but pretty much every single playable demo/live demo has outright said devkit except for the WD demo in Feb.Citation needed. You guys are aware this is a completely normal industry practice before you jump on folks, right?
At gamescom it appeared to be that way
What's that mysterious Sony Box under the PS4?
and here
Why are cables coming out of those boxes and where is the eyetoy camera plugged in?
Where is the Power and HDMI cable? Why is there an ugly white toblerone covering where the cables plug in?
*sigh*
You realize both the Xbox One and PS4 have passed the FCC by now, right? That's a working unit in final retail form factor. That's why it's not implausible to see them in limited numbers at events like these.
When it's wrong.It's interesting how quickly and intensely GAF jumps on anything critcizing the PS4.
You know that the PS4 needs to be plugged into the mains, right? It doesn't just run on it's own.
Fair bet is that every cable runs from the 'white toblerone' into that black post and up to the TV. You know, to keep them safe?
Either that or Sony wired an empty box with a USB, peripheral connection, etc... to create the illusion of a console.
We're through the looking-glass, people.
So the back of the console is hidden for no particular reason?
Shenanigans
Sony wired an empty box with a USB, peripheral connection, etc... to create the illusion of a console.
oh dear/Those same people poked fun at X1 saying they used PC's at E3. Now to hear PS4 has been using kits this whole time, it's a different story.
Seems like Xbone also passed certification. It's all under confidential though, but there is a filing publicly viewable in the same category as the PS4 that makes it very likely it's certified.Only the PS4 has passed FCC certification. We haven't heard anything on the Xbox1, yet.
How do we falsify your claim that Sony has deliberately fooled attendees and the games press?
I should add.
I don't think its a big deal..but its a bit ridiculous how many people who were not in germany, not in the games industry, who did not have meetings with multiple developers are saying he's wrong.
How many times does the difference have to be described? MS used PCs far more powerful than the XBO, Sony is using devkits which will function the same as a retail PS4 when just running a game.Looks like Sony can do nothing wrong. If this was MS again.........
Only the PS4 has passed FCC certification. We haven't heard anything on the Xbox1, yet.
Given the way MS has handle the XBO launch thus far, is that wholly unwarranted? They've created the damned if they do, damned if they don't scenario by their own actions.I'm not saying their hasn't been prior concerns, far from it.
You know what's going to happen though if Microsoft release ahead of Sony?
Reaction:
- Rushed to market
- Lower performance than stated
- Only 50 units available each country
And if they release after?
Reaction:
- Production issues confirmed
I know. I'm just saying it's all been devkits and not high end PCs. It'll take me a long time to compile all of the quotes but pretty much every single playable demo/live demo has outright said devkit except for the WD demo in Feb.
Guys seriously, Sony have a release date now. What's the point of discussing final build readyness, doubtful they will delay the launch. Or does it say something about the development process?
They're not reading the thread.How many times does the difference have to be described? MS used PCs far more powerful than the XBO, Sony is using devkits which will function the same as a retail PS4 when just running a game.
How many times does the difference have to be described? MS used PCs far more powerful than the XBO, Sony is using devkits which will function the same as a retail PS4 when just running a game.
There's a thread on it here, Major Nelson mentioned on Reddit that XB1 passed FCC back in the summer "before PS4"
There's a majority of people in this thread stating that he isn't technically wrong, just massively disingenuous. Saying all PS4 software is running on PC's and then saying he played a Dev kit is completely disingenuous and shows his lack of understanding on the subject.
I did forget that NFS was running on PC at E3. There's no point in arguing since both of us agree that this particular piece of info is non news.But it hasn't all been kits. You've seen some of these adjustments yourself. Looking at the pics of g5s above, you can see exactly what I'm talking about. Lots of devs were pissed at the compromises going from the very powerful g5 CPU to the alpha 360 kits for example. You just don't hear any of these things in public. It's extremely common as to not really be news. A non news thread