Lights and Waves
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I'd enjoy the 3D if it worked better and didn't drain the battery/slow games down.
I'd enjoy the 3D if it worked better and didn't drain the battery/slow games down.
I really hope this isn't a staggered release. And if it is, then both of these consoles better be pretty god damned powerful, because it will mean NX all-in costs$500-600
That'd probably be the best analogy for it. With Smash 4, I don't I would have bothered with Smash 3DS if it came out after the Wii U version The same logic may apply to the NX Platform, at least in the West.This is gonna be like Smash 3DS and the wait for Smash Wii U all over again, isn't it?
That's the thing, though. It's been 12 years of the same two-screen design, and let's not pretend it isn't a gimmick. Nearly every game I've played on any iteration of the DS up to 3DS has failed to make proper use of the screen. Even worse are the games that just force you to use the bottom screen just because it's there! It also makes the device much less portable, and requiring players to move their eyes away from the main action screen diminishes the immersion the player is supposed to experience.
Somehow consoles and every other portable device manage with one screen, but people act like it's a necessity for the Nintendo portable to have two. It's time to move on from the tired gimmick and have a single-screened, sleek handheld that is actually portable. Of course Nintendo is far too conservative to change anything that much, so it'll probably still have the same design, making it just a slightly more powerful 3DS, not a true successor.
Thanks for the correct info, I was looking at I think xl, new 3ds dates.3DS launched in February in Japan then April in USA. And no, it doesn't makes sense to focus on home console.
I've said before that were incredibly likely to see the NX handheld this year. The timing lines up.
Next year we could see the release of the NX console, with all your NX handheld's games working at launch. But only time will tell.
Practical reason is cost. Two screens cost more than one, driving two screens costs more computing power than one. One screen can be bigger and better for the same price as two.
A game design reason is that the second screen is, after a decade of dual-screen games, almost never used for anything important. It is just a map / menu screen now. The idea that it would become a game design essential has long since been discredited.
Another practical reason is because industrial design is important and two-screen design is nothing like what people expect an expensive tech device to look like in 2016. And I don't mean grown-ups, I mean kids who've been born since the iPhone was created. There's a cultural expectation as to what these things should look like, and as to what the minimum quality of a screen should be. I don't know if you can meet those expectations with a dual-screen design. I think you might end up with something dismissed as a 'toy', which is the last thing Nintendo wants or needs.
The handheld is more important and would sell better even in the west. Best to get that out first, make sure its launch is solid, and stabilize the company. Then the console can come out and broaden the NX's appeal to consumers and developers. They need to make sure their primary business is secure before going into an area where they are traditionally weaker and have far more direct competition.
Most phones manufacturing cost are not much higher than $200. They rely on different models, one relies on software sales the other Hardware.
Take the IPhone for example.
http://www.businessinsider.com/analysis-iphone-6-plus-costs-prices-and-profits-2014-9
What games do you even play on the DS/3DS for you say "...game design essential has long since been discredited."?
We'd be hearing massive leaks if the NX Handheld was coming this summer.
I'm not too sure about the NX Console just being an overclocked NX Handheld. You'd likely expect Nintendo to at least give the NX Console some stronger parts that are still in line with those used in the NX Handheld, especially with Japanese developers adopting Unreal Engine 4 in their games more & more.So, stop me if this sounds too Nintendo.
Nintendo NX handheld releases first up. Its pretty back to basics, has decent oomph and maybe those clickable wheel trigger things. One of its components is underclocked to save on battery.
Then the next Nintendo home console is just a re-packaged variant of that handheld, an NXTV if you will. The underclocked component no longer is as it doesnt have to worry about battery, and perhaps you get the resolution boost/extra shiny graphics because of it. Maybe its also got some clever link up streaming tech so you can use both it and an NX for "full DS/WiiU port compatibility".
It's time for the 12-16 month later XL refresh, otherwise known as "what we should have released initially but you'll upgrade anyway" model. Larger size so you get a beefier tablet level battery, dock at home to plug into your TV, its the whole hybrid shebang.
Peace out.
Pie and Beans 8)
I'd be super sad to see the dual screens go, they're perfect for lots of games, including important series like Pokémon, Fire Emblem and Mario Kart. Plus why would anyone want a handheld that doesn't have a clamshell design?
Plus why would anyone want a handheld that doesn't have a clamshell design?
I don't know you guys, but I'm fed up with so many speculations, theories and rumours about NX.
Nintendo should organize and event, I don't care if live or digital, and show that fucking console to the world at once. So we get all our questions answered, our doubts resolved, and all those nonsense rumours (like that one about a 900p default resolution lol).
They could show some first and third party games, 2 megatons if possible, and leave the rest to the E3.
To be fair, a good number of us (myself included) did mention the incoming arrival of the NX Platform. And even then, the NX Handheld may not be backwards compatible, so your 3DS purchase may not have been useless.*Buys 3DS in January 2016 to play Fire Emblem*
*is replaced 10 months later*
Yep, that math checks out.
So, stop me if this sounds too Nintendo.
Nintendo NX handheld releases first up. Its pretty back to basics, has decent oomph and maybe those clickable wheel trigger things. One of its components is underclocked to save on battery.
Then the next Nintendo home console is just a re-packaged variant of that handheld, an NXTV if you will. The underclocked component no longer is as it doesnt have to worry about battery, and perhaps you get the resolution boost/extra shiny graphics because of it. Maybe its also got some clever link up streaming tech so you can use both it and an NX for "full DS/WiiU port compatibility".
It's time for the 12-16 month later XL refresh, otherwise known as "what we should have released initially but you'll upgrade anyway" model. Larger size so you get a beefier tablet level battery, dock at home to plug into your TV, its the whole hybrid shebang.
Peace out.
Pie and Beans 8)
3DS was a triple whammy of compromise
You split resources again with Two Sceens, Split it AGAIN with the 3D effect and worst of all the hardware was already behind the curve when it launched.... at 250 dollars
Yes It had AMAZING software that carried it to now.
Nintendo can do better
You do realize that it probably isn't gonna be just one simple console, right?I don't know you guys, but I'm fed up with so many speculations, theories and rumours about NX.
Nintendo should organize and event, I don't care if live or digital, and show that fucking console to the world at once. So we get all our questions answered, our doubts resolved, and all those nonsense rumours (like that one about a 900p default resolution lol).
They could show some first and third party games, 2 megatons if possible, and leave the rest to the E3.
I understand this perspective, but it's important to remember that fancy handhelds don't set the world on fire by virtue of being fancy. I mean, these days handhelds don't set the world on fire, period, lol. And I think it's very risky trying to ape the losing competitor in the race. I'm pretty sure they can make a much better screen than the 3DS one while having two of them.1. So they can put a high quality screen in it for a reasonable price.
2. Not a big deal to find a cheap sleeve to protect it while in a backpack etc. I use a cheap garmin God sleeve for my vita.
The NX handheld needs to surpass the Vita in lower and at least match screen quality for me to bother. As much as I like the 3DS library, I play Vita more for those reasons.
My take: Sounds possible, but I imagine the home console will be a more powerful box, rather than just a VitaTV situation. But it might not be a huge amount more, and if Nintendo can make it small and low-power like a streaming box then they probably will. I find the idea of them competing with PS4 pretty silly.
I also don't think they'll ever produce a true hybrid.
Lastly, damn, how fast did the Vita age? It looked incredible at the time, but in the smartphone world the bezel looks so chunky and fat... it just looks old. Nintendo better make something that looks better than that. Or at the least more unique.
This has been my take forever. If Nintendo can sell 55m 3DSs despite what a monstrosity it was hardware-wise, and do so purely through the best portable software on the planet, then if they had actually decent hardware they should have no trouble at all.
I'm just now reminded that Nintendo made a glasses-free 3D device, haha.
It would be interesting if they went down that road again. Having all games designed with that kind of capability would probably make implementing VR down-the-line on the home console versions of the games a lot easier.
Exactly
They have a chance to knock it out of the park with NX
I understand this perspective, but it's important to remember that fancy handhelds don't set the world on fire by virtue of being fancy. I mean, these days handhelds don't set the world on fire, period, lol. And I think it's very risky trying to ape the losing competitor in the race. I'm pretty sure they can make a much better screen than the 3DS one while having two of them.
Also, I'd be willing to pay a higher cost for 3D. Doubt many others would though.
I expect the handheld to be powerful enough and architecture modern enough for the assets to be scaleable across several platforms and resolutions.
*Buys 3DS in January 2016 to play Fire Emblem*
*is replaced 10 months later*
Yep, that math checks out.
Well, I guess they could make something like the GBA SP. Clamshell is just way better IMHO. But it'd still be really sad to see the dual screens goYeah but once again you are increasing cost and dividing the power of the system
Which means to achieve performance you would have to drive up internal components even higher raising the cost again
I say simple is better going forward
Considering how they are going to this synergy as a theme it seems likely that they wont repeat the dual screens
That depends, would you count 540p as HD?Watch Nintendo releasing it with no HD screen and another crazy gimmick that will be forgotten and unused 6 months after the handheld launch. The meltdowns are going to be spectacular.
Either that or they commit to two screens on everything forever :O
I understand this perspective, but it's important to remember that fancy handhelds don't set the world on fire by virtue of being fancy. I mean, these days handhelds don't set the world on fire, period, lol. And I think it's very risky trying to ape the losing competitor in the race. I'm pretty sure they can make a much better screen than the 3DS one while having two of them.
Actually some of them talk to suppliers for their info.All these firms and analysts and no actual information. This is a non-story.