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Iowa 2008 Caucus Thread
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mckmas8808
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eznark said:
Why did Guiles think that was a good idea?
AdmiralViscen
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I'd just love to see who got to design and grade the tests.
First of all, I'm being sarcastic about the solution, but dead serious about the problem. Stupid people breed and vote for politicians based on things that are irrelevant or factually incorrect.eznark said:
Second of all, I obviously have brain cycles to spare, so kneel and kiss my ring. If you're nice enough, I'll make sure you have a non-janitorial job in the New World Order.
mckmas8808
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-jinx- said:
So how 'hard' would this test be?
ElectricBlue187
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-jinx- said:
well it's a good thing I don't have cable. the people don't pick who the next president is anyway...it's smoke and mirrors, expensive mirrors and interesting smoke, but just the same.
yankeeforever2
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If Giulian gets the bid for the republicans after doing nothing in Iowa maybe they will finally figure out this is a pointless vote.
-jinx- said:
"stupid" people may vote on things that are irrelevant to you, but what makes your wants and desires more "intelligent" than theirs?
The best solution is all domestic issues be dealt with locally, leaving only the issue of foreign affairs to a federal Government. Narrowing the issue to one that really does bind this nation evens the playing field by not putting a premium on broad knowledge.
The problem isn't with how we elect federal officials, it's what we ask them to do.
If you take local responsiblilties away from the Federal government (as originally intended), this system works perfectly. It's the exponential expansion of Government that has thrown the situation into flux. Taxes, abortion, health care...those are not issues a president should decide yet we spend the entire election cycle debating them.
Libertarians are all for the localization of government, until it runs up against their other beliefs.
mckmas8808
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eznark said:
And education too right?
Biden and Richardson making deals with Obama?
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/03/a_bidenobama_deal_1.html
http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1782
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/03/a_bidenobama_deal_1.html
http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1782
Mandark said:
Cute. Now tell me why a city that is explicitly federal territory and explicitly under the control of the legislative branch of the federal government not beholden to the federal Constitution, which is abundantly clear on this issue?
Furthermore, do you think we support local restrictions on freedom of speech? Right to a fair trial? Or are we talking about local control on areas where the Constitution is not explicitly clear?
AdmiralViscen
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...If you ignore the Constitution? Enough with the thread derail.
Funny, I thought I was pointing out how a link to an issue regarding guns in Washington D.C. has nothing to do with the topic at hand (which is itself a subtopic), and also how the issue you were talking about has little relevance to issues like abortion and healthcare.
But I guess pointing out to you that your argument has no basis in reality or the topic at hand must secretly mean I'm angrily agreeing with you. I must have left my secret decoder ring in my other pants because I'm not really getting that one.
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ANYHOO, anyone got any kind of word on how this bitch is going down so far, or know when we'll know something?
But I guess pointing out to you that your argument has no basis in reality or the topic at hand must secretly mean I'm angrily agreeing with you. I must have left my secret decoder ring in my other pants because I'm not really getting that one.
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ANYHOO, anyone got any kind of word on how this bitch is going down so far, or know when we'll know something?
I'm saying that libertarians argue for the devolution of government responsibility from national to local levels, but that's mostly because they think that will reduce government authority overall.
When local governments step in with smoking bans, zoning laws, extra labor and business regulations, etc, libbies don't support it in the name of self-government. And I don't expect them to, or say they should.
For libertarians, the value of state and municipal administration over federal administration is that it's a means towards a miniarchist end. That's all I'm saying.
That, and don't make me bring up the last time we discussed DC, and you had your insane idea about how it was never meant to have any residential districts.
When local governments step in with smoking bans, zoning laws, extra labor and business regulations, etc, libbies don't support it in the name of self-government. And I don't expect them to, or say they should.
For libertarians, the value of state and municipal administration over federal administration is that it's a means towards a miniarchist end. That's all I'm saying.
That, and don't make me bring up the last time we discussed DC, and you had your insane idea about how it was never meant to have any residential districts.
Mandark said:
I think you're confused. No where has anyone said localization of government is a libertarian priority.
I said it would fix the problem being discussed in this thread (ie how federal officials are elected) never said it was the #1 priority of Libertatians.
There won't any news of substance til early evening most likely.
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