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Woodsy said:
if your wife is using the 2G, and you want to buy the 3G and use it for yourself, why do you need to swap the SIMs around?
downgrades are usually not possible, however Apple stopped updating certain aspects of the 2G so it may be possible to a certain extent. not sure why you would want to though.
i havent heard about it corrupting any SIM cards. i know many people that use it on say Tmobile without issues though.
OverHeat said:
my biggest issue with this is the lack of POI's. it cant even find a gamestop near me...
SuperPac
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The official MobileMe iDisk app is out. Pretty helpful if you do a lot of iDisking.
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=320654497&mt=8
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=320654497&mt=8
Marty Chinn
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I'm going to be traveling to Italy and Greece and my wife found out that the best solution to using our iPhones, especially for data, is to unlock our phones and buy a prepaid sim card so that we can use our phones there. Does anyone have any experience with this and could just give some tips and advice on how to go about doing this? Any help would be appreciated.
Apples Approval process seems to be attracting a lot more rage than usual after shunning google voice
http://gizmodo.com/5325539/apples-chickenshit-approval-process-has-gone-too-far
Will probably get worse when they reject Spotify (cant believe they'll let it through). I wonder if Apple will live to regret their policy.
As more people get more savvy with their iphones they will start questioning why they cant do certain things. Augmented reality is probably not a game changer feature wise but still an interesting test case, Apple restricted the APIs so it couldn't be done, Android did it, Apple re-evaluated.
Now with Google voice Android is actually adding value to itself as a communication device, the functionality it provides could be a huge selling point when/if it leaves beta. If Apple doesn't cave again it could be the first sign of Apples long standing issues with stubbornness starting to threaten what up till now has looked like an unstoppable rise to the top of the cellphone market.
http://gizmodo.com/5325539/apples-chickenshit-approval-process-has-gone-too-far
Will probably get worse when they reject Spotify (cant believe they'll let it through). I wonder if Apple will live to regret their policy.
As more people get more savvy with their iphones they will start questioning why they cant do certain things. Augmented reality is probably not a game changer feature wise but still an interesting test case, Apple restricted the APIs so it couldn't be done, Android did it, Apple re-evaluated.
Now with Google voice Android is actually adding value to itself as a communication device, the functionality it provides could be a huge selling point when/if it leaves beta. If Apple doesn't cave again it could be the first sign of Apples long standing issues with stubbornness starting to threaten what up till now has looked like an unstoppable rise to the top of the cellphone market.
Marty Chinn
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Charred Greyface said:First jailbreak, then unlock. iClarified has very nice tutorials for each step.
Or you could sell your iPhones here and pick up factory unlocked iPhones in Italy
Thanks for the link but am I mistaken or are most of those for the 3GS and not the 3G? Also I was hoping to also find some tips on where and what type of sim cards with what data plans. Also what type of coverage I'll get since we're traveling on a cruise to different ports. Thanks for the initial help already though.
How to Select an iPhone Unlock/Jailbreak Tutorial (The information for the 3GS there is slightly outdated but you don't want that anyway)Marty Chinn said:
Yeah, I can't help you with the rest.
so i'm basically in love with my device, but i miss one thing from blackberry: is there really no way to put message notifications in the menu bar? this strikes me as a glaring omission...no LED and no message notifier for email. You could be using the device, put it down and walk away, and come back and conceivably miss that you got an email.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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That's an Apple thing. No lights on anything. Even their router only has a single light on the front instead of like 5-10 like most routers.Y2Kev said:
They did have a patent where the lock screen would be a dashboard to all of your new and updated shit, like it should have been from the start. Everyone assumed that would be in 3.0, but I guess it's for next year.
I'm fine with no LEDs. I just think you need to have one or the other-- an LED or a message notifier. I think the iPhone hardware design is actually really smart. The most important hardware feature, IMO, silent/not-silent, has a slider on the side. I love that. But I was just really stunned to see no indicator.
It's not a particularly huge deal...I will just go back to the home screen whenever I unlock it. Just struck me as a little weird.
Jailbreaking my phone seems really dangerous and isn't worth the risk.
It's not a particularly huge deal...I will just go back to the home screen whenever I unlock it. Just struck me as a little weird.
Jailbreaking my phone seems really dangerous and isn't worth the risk.
TheGreatDave
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Jailbreaking really isn't dangerous. I see no reason not to do it, my 3.0 jailbreak went incredibly smoothly.
I also installed an add on through Jailbreak that stops the iPhone ever going in to portrait mode, making it Super Perfect Phone <3
I also installed an add on through Jailbreak that stops the iPhone ever going in to portrait mode, making it Super Perfect Phone <3
Marty Chinn
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Tobor said:
Sometimes I like to lay on the couch or the bed and preventing portrait mode would be great for web browsing.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Nope.Epix said:
I think the date we're all really waiting on is the day we don't have to deal with AT&T ever again.
Well for safari, portrait does not work for upside down (sleep/wake button end pointing toward the ground, home button end pointing away). What I do when browsing lying down is to tip the phone into landscape mode on the appropriate side such that it's right way up to my sideways oriented head, and it doesn't go into portrait mode because the home button end is oriented towards the ceiling.Marty Chinn said:
I probably couldve explained this better.
Here's the most recent (and damning) critique of the app store business from a developer. saw this linked on daring fireball.
with all the bullshit decisions apple and AT&T have been making recently with apps, I figured it was worthwhile to post this.
http://www.polarbearfarm.com/blog/?p=124
Now, to provide a devil's advocate viewpoint, this company was charging 5 dollars for an app to search your contacts and 5 dollars for a note making app.
they do have cool ones like a facial recognition program for photos and a twitter push app, though.
with all the bullshit decisions apple and AT&T have been making recently with apps, I figured it was worthwhile to post this.
http://www.polarbearfarm.com/blog/?p=124
Now, to provide a devil's advocate viewpoint, this company was charging 5 dollars for an app to search your contacts and 5 dollars for a note making app.
they do have cool ones like a facial recognition program for photos and a twitter push app, though.
Can I be honest? The feature that blows my mind the most is how the screen shuts off when you put it to your ear. I can't tell you the number of times I turned on speakerphone or hit mute with my assberry storm with my face. Every time I put the phone down from my ear and the screen turns back on I just go WOW
LCfiner said:
Yeah, I want to hear this kind of bitching from a company that's releasing worthwhile product.
App prices seem to be rising, there's nowhere to go but up. I still think Apple needs a premium games store, but painting a bleak picture while you peddle bullshit isn't going to get my sympathy.
Y2Kev said:
:lol The first time I saw that in action, it was a Keanu Reeves "Whoah" moment.
Kind of hard to take that type of criticism from a company that wants to stick it to the customer with $5 contact searching. Then it just comes across as 'we want to charge more for our crap!!!' whining.
Having said that, I completely agree that there is some stupidity going on with the whole submission process. Stuff needs to be addressed, and quickly.
Still, I'm not sure I 'get' the problems with the pricing. I think if the app is worthwhile there is a market for it at certain prices (above 99 cents). But obviously there is a ceiling. I'm not sure what solutions people are looking for here.
EDIT: Interestingly, that blog post seems to be gone now.
Having said that, I completely agree that there is some stupidity going on with the whole submission process. Stuff needs to be addressed, and quickly.
Still, I'm not sure I 'get' the problems with the pricing. I think if the app is worthwhile there is a market for it at certain prices (above 99 cents). But obviously there is a ceiling. I'm not sure what solutions people are looking for here.
EDIT: Interestingly, that blog post seems to be gone now.
Burger
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LCfiner said:
I read that blog post and couldn't figure out what he was whining about. Why do they assume that the App Store is a democracy ? They signed up to the terms and then bitch about the terms. Sure, Apple is vague in many areas, and should be more forthcoming about the real reasons some apps are declined, but still, it's their business. If you don't like it go and develop for Android.
TheGreatDave
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I meant landscapeTobor said:
Blame my brain.jonnybryce
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Burger said:
It's undeniably shady and stupid, though. You can spend time making an app and it can randomly be rejected. It's a risk that isn't justified.
Developer A: "Let's make an app where people can text for free!"
Apple: "Cool, welcome aboard!"
Developer B: "Let's make an alternate browser with full screen mode!"
Apple: "Great! Thanks for the contribution to our app catalog!"
Developer C: "Let's make a Google Voice app!"
Apple: "THIS DUPLICATES FUNCTIONS ON THE IPHONE. CUSTOMERS ARE CONFUSED. THIS IS ALL WE CAN SAY. GTFO."
Can't really defend this by saying "It's their rules!" because the issue is no one knows the rules so it's impossible to play by them. I don't think telling developers who don't want to take the 50/50 gamble to jump ship to Android benefits the app store or iPhone users.
Vyer said:
post is still up when i just clicked the link.
the main issue is how the top apps are ones that are 99 cents, as they're listed by total sales.
if the chart was listed by total revenue, then higher priced apps would float to the top more often. this approach has been talked about on the web for a long while.
more devs would invest more time into apps if they know that they can get better exposure in the store if they price at ~10 bucks or so.
there are outliers. apps that cost over 10 bucks or over 50 (like the recent gps turn by turn apps at the top of the sales charts) who get noticed. stuff like Things or Real Racing.
I'm less worried about this dev pulling and more about EA opening that bargain bin studio shop to churn out quick games. Hopefully, they maintain their release of top tier games for the device, as well. if they bow out of the premier games market, that's a real bad sign.
I think you guys should be taking App Store criticism from developers more seriously. It's not like there is only one dev whining about this, and the problems just seem to be getting worse.
While Apple has had a head start, if things continue, all signs point to developers doing just that. I love my iPhone. Sure, it's worrying to me that more and more negative feedback for the App Store is rearing its ugly head. But what really worries me are the consumers that simply brush off valid criticism because that developer hasn't made anything "worthwhile" or "it's their business, they can do what they want".
Will it take more blog posts?
http://carpeaqua.com/2009/07/28/where-do-i-sign-up/
The worrying thing is that the issues keep piling up, but the old ones never get resolved. Apple still has massive delays in the review process, Apple is increasingly vague about why an app is being removed/denied, the store still sucks for those who can't breach the front page, etc etc.
As owners of iPhones, we should be hoping Apple steps up their game fast instead of classifying those pointing out problems with the system as whiners and moving on.
While Apple has had a head start, if things continue, all signs point to developers doing just that. I love my iPhone. Sure, it's worrying to me that more and more negative feedback for the App Store is rearing its ugly head. But what really worries me are the consumers that simply brush off valid criticism because that developer hasn't made anything "worthwhile" or "it's their business, they can do what they want".
Will it take more blog posts?
http://carpeaqua.com/2009/07/28/where-do-i-sign-up/
The worrying thing is that the issues keep piling up, but the old ones never get resolved. Apple still has massive delays in the review process, Apple is increasingly vague about why an app is being removed/denied, the store still sucks for those who can't breach the front page, etc etc.
As owners of iPhones, we should be hoping Apple steps up their game fast instead of classifying those pointing out problems with the system as whiners and moving on.
jonnybryce
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mrkgoo said:
AT&T denied it, so all this secrecy is bad. Someone needs to take responsibility and have a clear set of criteria. It's undeniably that it seems completely random and doesn't make sense. Even if it was AT&T, why do they allow TextPlus and TextFree? It's not clear.
Burger
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DarkJC said:
Well I'm not a developer, so I don't have that perspective. As a customer, the App Store works for me. However, I do agree that Apple needs to fess up with who is blocking what and why.
Some of these comments from developers are a little dramatic though. "CLOSE THE APP STORE!"... To me that translates as "APPLE HASN'T MADE ME RICH ENOUGH!"
Vyer said:
The point of the post was there are a number of issues with the App Store, and if developers are worried about them, then that's worrying to me too, whether it's the issue of 99c apps or otherwise. I didn't intend to lump everything into one issue, so my mistake if it came across that way.
I'll agree that calling to close the store is dramatic, but I think it's the result of being ignored for as long as the store began operation.
Burger
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DarkJC said:
I suppose.
It's funny how developers clamoured for native apps, Apple said no, everyone will be happy with web apps. Then they relented and allowed native apps, and proudly proclaim "Look how successful and great our App Store is".
Develops should have a voice in how it is run, but that doesn't mean that Apple has to see it that way.
Critical Jeff
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Posting from my new itouch. I love this thing. It's going to be so awsome on campus with the campus wide wifi
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