CarpeDeezNutz
Member
The man said he counted more than 15 cop cars when they walked him outside, and they looked through his car, separated the family in two rooms. Yeah, those tellers saw hijabs and terrorism popped in their heads. Fucking gross.
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Iraqi-American Sells House, Deposits Check at Bank, Gets Arrested
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The man said he counted more than 15 cop cars when they walked him outside, and they looked through his car, separated the family in two rooms. Yeah, those tellers saw hijabs and terrorism popped in their heads. Fucking gross.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Oh god I hope they get paid. I hope its to the point that key individuals responsible up the chain of this fuckery ALL lose their jobs.
FullMetaltech
Member
Pretty much. Could of avoided all that by puttibg a hold on the check but instead he gets cuffed.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Calling the cops? The fuck?
At the very least you call, verify the check, and then put an extended 7 day hold on the check.
At the very least you call, verify the check, and then put an extended 7 day hold on the check.
In this day and age you most certainly do need to specify You're being sarcastic. Forget about how poorly sarcasm works in text form, have you not been paying attention to the news lately?
Classic reverse bank heist. Dude was going to deposit funds while his wife waited outside in the getaway car.
Reasons unknown.
Why doesn't the bank or police just hold on to the cheque/funds until it's verified? What's the risk? Dude even said it was okay. But nah, "let's take a ride downtown" while you're cuffed.
"For reasons unknown to Emprise Bank, the situation escalated once law enforcement became involved..."
Not buying it.
The bank is trash for calling and of course the cops are trash as usual.
Reasons unknown.
This doesn't add up. I work for a bank so this went from 0-100 WAY too fast.
A check deposit is LITERALLY a 10 second transaction. You do a cursory check for the legal line, date and endorsements, and give the customer their goddamn receipt and take the next customer. Unless something else happened inside that bank, it is 100% profiling.
A check deposit is LITERALLY a 10 second transaction. You do a cursory check for the legal line, date and endorsements, and give the customer their goddamn receipt and take the next customer. Unless something else happened inside that bank, it is 100% profiling.
Random Painted HIghway
Member
I consider my use of an ellipse at the end of that sentence to denote sarcasm. I do forget that certain places online are more likely to jump to conclusions than others on things like this, good reminder, thanks. No /s. The idea that someone thinks I or anyone would burn an account for a nasty comment on this story of all stories does amuse me , I willl say. How can anyone reasonable look at that pic and think terrorists?
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
YES THERE IS IN FACT
The bank profiled the poor dude and had him arrested for absolutely no good reason
Hopefully the federal courts are sympathetic to the guy and not to the bank
Widdle Puppy
Banned
shit bank, get sued racist fucks
djplaeskool
Member
How the hell can a bank fail to verify a check, but law enforcement can?
This is some bullshit.
This is some bullshit.
Look,
This forum, like any large internet community, has no shortage of people lurking who do, in fact, seriously share and seek to promote the views you were joking about. People who have, lately, chosen times such as this to out themselves for the vitriolic rhetoric so that we can show them the door. Or burner accounts that lay in wait to stir up shit.
Really, the fact that essentially everyone reading it werent clued into your sarcasm should be telling.
Your post was perhaps poorly timed.
You probably shouldve added an /s tag.
Dont act like a everyone else is being hypersensitive.
Learn from it and move on.
Oh. And, maybe, just maybe, edit your post.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Bankrupt both the bank and the police for this horse shit incident
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
We get plenty of weird account suicides all the time. It's been a stressful time for race-related stuff and more and more people are showing themselves to be hateful
Angelus Errare
Banned
Isn't this type of racial profiling in banks legal and encouraged under the Patriot Act? I remember the credit union I used to work at had some patriot act training training modules, i don't remember if it was for "sketchy" withdrawals only or if deposits were included as well. never really worried about it personally as I was working IT and wasn't ever handling money.
and by sketchy, since you're reporting potential terrorist activity, i always took that to mean it was encouraging bank tellers to racially profile brown people with money
and by sketchy, since you're reporting potential terrorist activity, i always took that to mean it was encouraging bank tellers to racially profile brown people with money
manfestival
Member
This is a pretty common practice. I can't imagine that the guy has any real ground here. I do remember like a year ago how a similar situation occurred to a black man. The whole situation sucks
elrechazado
Banned
What's the cause of action?
oh okay. i'm not agreeing with the racial profiling, i just couldn't remember what the actual rules were because I just clicked through the modules as they were a waste of time when people were bitching at me about needing passwords resets
Aaron Strife
Banned
Fucking hate this country. Who still wants to claim racism isn't still a thing that happens in America?
The same miserable assholes who profiled him are probably the same ones who tell poor minorities to stop whining and pull themselves up by the bootstraps. This guy played by your rules and he won. He's a citizen, has a family, has a lot of money, studying to become a doctor, but no. He must have cheated. He must be an illegal. He contributes more to society than these sad sack dickweeds working as tellers in a shitty Midwestern bank, so it's their patriotic duty to put him back in his place.
Also clearly demonstrates that it's not a class issue. There are many people in this country who believe the filthiest, poorest white man is still worth more than the wealthiest, most intelligent person of color. And many of those people are the ones calling the shots.
The same miserable assholes who profiled him are probably the same ones who tell poor minorities to stop whining and pull themselves up by the bootstraps. This guy played by your rules and he won. He's a citizen, has a family, has a lot of money, studying to become a doctor, but no. He must have cheated. He must be an illegal. He contributes more to society than these sad sack dickweeds working as tellers in a shitty Midwestern bank, so it's their patriotic duty to put him back in his place.
Also clearly demonstrates that it's not a class issue. There are many people in this country who believe the filthiest, poorest white man is still worth more than the wealthiest, most intelligent person of color. And many of those people are the ones calling the shots.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
The latter quote was very well said in terms of how the banks and the police overreacted to a normal police because it was an arab american.
The cause of action in the future case against the bank and the witchita police is unjust arrest and emotional trauma brought upon by the arrest upon the police
elrechazado
Banned
The bank didn't arrest him.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Truly the american dream.
And is this really the hill the bank is ready to die on?
thesaucetastic
Unconfirmed Member
I hope he sues them for what they're worth.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
"""Attempted forgery""""" = just another code word for bigotry in the USA
Aaron Strife
Banned
As if the goal here was ever to do anything but humiliate an Iraqi family.
MadOdorMachine
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I doubt this has as much to do with racism as it does with federal regulations after 9-11. The bank was probably doing what they are required to do which is why they issued that statement.
Yeah, no. If banks were required to do this on every large check, it would be happening constantly. Mistype a routing number and welp I guess we need the whole police force on site again!
SolarPowered
Member
I'm looking forward to the payout from the bank more than the cops because at least the former won't come from the taxpayer's pockets. Whoever on gaf said the police should start seeing dents in their pensions from this sort of stuff is right. Hit them where it hurts for abuses of power.
In my 10 years of banking, we have never had to do this at any stage, either at the CTR, STM, or SAR stage. The ONLY time we are allowed to contact police is after a robbery, when everyone is safe.
15 cop cars showed up to arrest this man and his family. 15 cars.
ebullientprism
Member
MadOdorMachine
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Then you probably know exactly (and more than) what I'm talking about. You weren't there and you've only heard one side of the story where they state things started to go downhill. That can mean a lot of things. I assume this is an unusual transaction even for someone like you who's been working in banking for 10 years. Most of the time these types of transactions are handled electronically. It could have very easily been you that was in a situation like this where you reported the transaction to your supervisor and things quickly escalated into the customer being arrested.
Edit - I just watched the video from the link in the OP. It sounds like the bank screwed up and called Idaho instead of Michigan and that the police were called because of forgery. So if that's all there is to the story, the bank did screw up but it wasn't racial profiling. I assume there must have been a reason they called Idaho instead of Michigan because they said the police detectives were able to find the right bank in Michigan and verify the check was legitimate. My point is that there's more to the story behind the scenes than what's being told.
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
Even the guy knew there was a process for verifying the check, rather than accusing your customer of fraud upfront. Could have contacted the organization/name that issued the check that's written on the check itself to verify its legitimacy, could have recorded state-issued ID information for the person trying to deposit it (I get ID checked every single time I do anything at the bank), then just fucking tried to deposit it for the man. If it bounced or failed to clear, then you have all the evidence you need to hand over to law enforcement and make a case for charges later. Guy got arrested before any real criminal activity could be verified (and that's obviously why this is news).
But nope, guy isn't a socially accepted white ethnicity, so it's on-the-spot fraud trying to deposit a check that large. Wonder if they even bothered to ask him how he came to be in possession of the check, or if they just saw the amount and immediately mentally constructed a scenario where he was a criminal.
But nope, guy isn't a socially accepted white ethnicity, so it's on-the-spot fraud trying to deposit a check that large. Wonder if they even bothered to ask him how he came to be in possession of the check, or if they just saw the amount and immediately mentally constructed a scenario where he was a criminal.
His wife and daughter wear headscarves.
Someone depositing a $150k check shouldn't even bat an eyeball at a bank.
Aside from a verification hold, and a standard report of a large deposit, it's no different than any other check.
Bank would have already had all his verified info. Patriot act requires that when opening an account.
Their names too.
It's like you have to change every tiny detail about yourself, to not set the alarm bells ringing in these bigots heads.
MadOdorMachine
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Any transaction over $10K has different procedures. The guy says he had all the documentation which he provided the bank. Well then why did they reach the wrong bank and suspect the check was a forgery? More than likely the bankers had no idea his wife and daughter were even waiting outside or wearing headscarves because according to the report, this all happened in 5 minutes. The more I look at it, the more it seems like it was a misunderstanding and they were all honest people trying to do the right thing. Even the police handled it well imo.
lol, imo.