No. They're both bad for you, some would argue rice is worse because it's generally much denser than bread so you'll end up eating more of it.So, is rice better than bread?
No. They're both bad for you, some would argue rice is worse because it's generally much denser than bread so you'll end up eating more of it.So, is rice better than bread?
isn't it high in cholesterol?
wife and I often have 2 eggs each with 3 - 4 slices of bacon. We do have it with toast though ... 2 slices each one with jam.
I'm careful about the bread and jam i buy trying to get whatever is most healthy.
all other mornings we drink shakeology.
http://www.shakeology.com/web/shakeology/the-science
http://images.beachbody.com/shakeology/science/SHK_Chart.pdf
We probably do the bacon eggs and toast 2 days a week. The rest is shakeology for breakfast mixed with half a danone.
Fine, I agree with you there but I disagree that low carb paleo, less than 30 a day, is anything but bad news for someone doing anything other than a sit down job. That was the original point I was trying to argue.If you eat a high fat diet you'll feel full for longer though, so where's the problem? It's a perfectly fine diet if you have a 9-5 job. If you eat lots of crabs you'll have to snack more and you could have a sugar crash. That hasn't happened to me on more than one occasion while I work. Once I ate a 12" subway sandwich at noon. By 2pm I was falling asleep at my desk. And By 3h30pm I was super hungry. Then I discovered my sandwich had like 100g+ of carbs in eat. Yikes..
But if you work out or you are an active person you'll have to increase your carbs a bit for sure (fast energy source and important for muscle growth). But the problem is that a lot of people don't get the science behind it and get their carbs from dubious sources and at large amounts.
This has nothing to do with paleo.
Eating cholesterol won't increase the cholesterol in your body. If you are worried about your heart when eating them, take a look at some of these studies: http://www.dietdoctor.com/science
Fine, I agree with you there but I disagree that low carb paleo, less than 30 a day, is anything but bad news for someone doing anything other than a sit down job. That was the original point I was trying to argue.
Fine, I agree with you there but I disagree that low carb paleo, less than 30 a day, is anything but bad news for someone doing anything other than a sit down job. That was the original point I was trying to argue.
No. They're both bad for you, some would argue rice is worse because it's generally much denser than bread so you'll end up eating more of it.
Tombstone frozen pizza.
If you're eating brown rice you might be able to argue that it's "better" for you because of the miniscule amount of fiber that's in it, but really, both eventually end up pumping sugar into your bloodstream.How much worse? I would assume bread, especially American white bread be more terrible than rice since it is filled with nothing, but sugar.
Yup. Shit is ingrained in the minds of many people still, I really can't imagine how much damage it has caused. My parents stuffed me full of bread when I was a kid, and it certainly did me no favors.Do people not remember that old food pryamid from the 90s?
In the end, it's all about calories.
Dietary threads are almost always mind fucks..
Dietary threads are almost always mind fucks..
This has nothing to do with paleo.
Real talk, what the fuck are you supposed to eat.
Real talk, what the fuck are you supposed to eat.
Yes you areTrust me I am not ignorant about bread at all.
In all honesty, bread doesn't do shit to you.
If you must eat bread, whole grains are probably the way to go. However, no matter what kind of bread it is, it's still bad for you! Please keep that in mind.What about Light Thomas Whole Grain English Muffins? I dont like bread slices, so I use these for a small turkey sandwich.
What makes you think that? Sugar is poison, nothing more.Ive been drinking only water and/or sugar free drinks for years.
I sometimes think my obsession with sugar intake is having an adverse effect on my body and mind.
If you want to easily lose weight, get healthy, and get strong, I suggest at least giving these two books an honest read:
Why We Get Fat
The Primal Blueprint
That's a good starting point!
If you must eat bread, whole grains are probably the way to go. However, no matter what kind of bread it is, it's still bad for you! Please keep that in mind.
What makes you think that? Sugar is poison, nothing more.
No. They're both bad for you, some would argue rice is worse because it's generally much denser than bread so you'll end up eating more of it.
What makes you think that? Sugar is poison, nothing more.
eating bread is like declaring jihad on your body.
There are many fallacies that undergird alternative medicine, which evolved into “complementary and alternative medicine” (CAM), and for which the preferred term among its advocates is now “integrative medicine,” meant to imply the “best of both worlds.” If I had to pick one fallacy that rules above all among proponents of CAM/IM, it would have to be either the naturalistic fallacy (i.e., that if it’s natural—whatever that means—it must be better) or the fallacy of antiquity (i.e., that if it’s really old, it must be better). Of course, the two fallacies are not unrelated. In the minds of CAM proponents, old is more likely to have been based on nature, and the naturalistic fallacy often correlates with the fallacy of antiquity. Basically, it’s a rejection of modernity, and from it flow the interest in herbalism, various religious practices rebranded as treatments (thousands of years ago, medicine was religion and religion was medicine—the two were more or less one and physicians were often priests as well), and the all-consuming fear of “toxins,” in which it is thought that the products of modernity are poisoning us.
Good for you to dismiss it as such. My vastly improved health, and 80 pounds of lost fat disagree that the diet changes I made were "rubbish."
I took a look at the intro to your link, and I have no idea where he's going, so I stopped.
What do CAM/IM, rejection of modernity, etc. have to do with paleo?
Good for you to dismiss it as such. My vastly improved health, and 80 pounds of lost fat disagree that the diet changes I made were "rubbish."
If you must eat bread, whole grains are probably the way to go. However, no matter what kind of bread it is, it's still bad for you! Please keep that in mind.
What makes you think that? Sugar is poison, nothing more.
It is based on flawed science and the naturalistic fallacy.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/03/25/paleo-and-woo-bad-company-until-they-day-they-die/
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/new_scientist/2013/04/marlene_zuk_s_paleofantasy_book_diets_and_exercise_based_on_ancient_humans.html
You do realize that could be due to the things you cut out that coincides with the actual science, and not due to the sketchier claims made by Paleo... right?
The part about "eating like a caveman?" I don't think you were supposed to take that so literally... That rhetoric is used to be catchy, but I don't think many people are seriously claiming that we try to replicate our ancestors' lifestyles to a T.
What sketchier claims? If you're going to attack something, at least point out specifically what you are attacking--not some nebulous "THE PALEO!" that really doesn't even have an agreed upon definition.
It depends on lifestyle. You can consume a moderate amount of carbohydrates if you're active and not see any major negative effects. It does not change the fact that it's sugar!Don't listen to this guy. The existence of bread is NOT bad, but rather the proportion of bread.
It certainly seems that many people in this thread feel that way!I think everyone can agree that when you're eating something and someone you don't know tells you that its bad for you, that person is an asshole. Right?
This is such bullshit. Explain how Asia has had such low rates of obesity and diabetes with rice being a huge part of their diet?
What study shows rice being anywhere as harmful as wheat?
http://www.hookedonjuice.com/What hyperbole. Sugar is not poison. Fruit is not poisonous. What definition are you even fucking using.
It was a not a literal statement. Obviously sugar is not a toxic substance. What it does to your body when consumed in the amounts that most people consume it, on the other hand, is absolutely poisonous.Sugar is not poison, the toxicity of sugar is entirely contextual. Sucrose is just a disaccharide that's one part glucose and one part fructose; both are found in nature and both can be processed fairly easily be the body given that they're coming from unrefined sources.
Reminds me of this 60 minutes segment.Well that sugar and rice are poisonous for one. Fruit contains sugars and is hardly poisonous based on any sane definition. Though I am not certain if that is Paleo or Izayoi, so forgive me if it is just him.
http://www.hookedonjuice.com/
Please educate yourself. The fact that you get so offended about someone confronting you about your diet should be enough to make you take a step back. I'm trying to help.
It was a not a literal statement. Obviously sugar is not a toxic substance. What it does to your body when consumed in the amounts that most people consume it, on the other hand, is absolutely poisonous.
Is there a healthy eating/living thread in gaf?
I've been looking into eating healthier but it's hard to know what to believe, any good non pseudo scientific books or websites that anyone can recommend?
I'm fairly active in work (7 hours a day on my feet), I'm a vegetarian (I eat dairy though), according to my Doctor I'm within my BMI but want to lose a few pounds on the belly.
See a dietitian for a professional opinion. Should be covered by your insurance.