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IT - Official Trailer 1
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elrechazado
Banned
Patrick hockstedder looks creepily just like I pictured him.
I have lived 30+ years and never knew that there was some kind of weird sex scene in IT. I've never heard anyone talk about it at all when discussing the book or the mini-series.
For some reason though, since this remake got started all ANYONE wants to talk about is the weird sex scene that will obviously not even be in the remake.
For some reason though, since this remake got started all ANYONE wants to talk about is the weird sex scene that will obviously not even be in the remake.
This looks like an inversion of the old tv series.
Pennywise was borderline perfect in the tv series, but everything else was garbage.
This looks incredible, except for Pennywise.
Making Pennywise look like a scary clown totally misses the point.
He looks a bit too modely I guess. Not that models can't be creepy, but it's not quite how I imagined him.
And what's the point?
ilikesanta
Member
When they were repeating "You'll float too," in the trailer, I kept waiting for the beat to drop. Someone needs to remix this.
Galactic Specter
Member
At the end of the trailer, you can see Patrick Hockstetter being set on fire. This differs from his death in the book when It turns into flying leeches and drains his blood, I wonder how this new situation comes about in the movie.
Caddywompus
Member
Clowns shouldn't try to look scary, they should be unassuming children's entertainers.
What makes them scary is the stranger underneath the makeup and the unnatural surroundings they are placed in.
Making Pennywise some bucktoothed deformed hillbilly with that forehead makes him appear less of a clown and just another generic movie monster
Discotheque
Banned
good point. I'm liking these trailers but this Pennywise is trash
Despite the popular miniseries, IT has always kind of flown a little under the radar in King's bibliography in comparison to his other horror works, and that's maybe why? But I will say I had heard about that scene beforehand, I honestly thought it was pretty common knowledge and was one always considered one of the weirdest and more uncomfortable things King ever wrote.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This isn't true at all
It is
Bobby Roberts
Banned
No, at no point has IT ever "flown under the radar" as anything. It was the most popular book in the world the year it was released, and has consistently sold ever since. The miniseries got the ratings it got because of the popularity of the book, and the popularity of the miniseries in turn fed further sales of the book, which, again, was at the time a giant fucking hit, especially considering how goddamned thick it was.
IT has always been one of King's most popular, most referenced, most well known works of fiction. There is no way "Flown under the radar" works as a descriptor for it.
IT has always been one of King's most popular, most referenced, most well known works of fiction. There is no way "Flown under the radar" works as a descriptor for it.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I'm honestly surprised it took IT this long to get a big-budget Hollywood movie.
Nah. I wasn't saying it was unknown or anything, but like when you compare it to stuff like The Stand, Dark Tower, Shining, Salems Lot, etc. others it's not as much talked about or as referenced in the King canon. Well, it is now since the new adaptation is coming out, but the majority of people probably talking about it now are more familiar with the miniseries than they are the book. The fact that a lot of people didn't know about that scene is a testament.
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
I doubt that. It's the book I've heard people talk about the most, and must be one of his most popular. When I talk to people about King and his work, IT is the book people first mention having read. It must be one of his most sold books.
Everyone my age seems to have a relationship to it (and/or the miniseries).
Bobby Roberts
Banned
No, that's wrong. IT has never "flown under the radar." It's always been a monster. It's one of his most referenced works, one of his most read works, and one of his most well-known works.
The miniseries for most of them I wager. That's what the majority of people default to and, as poor as it is, it really prolonged the lifespan of the book.
Link doesn't seem to work, but is that a best of list? I mean, okay, but a website list doesn't really matter to what I'm saying. Shields down, boys, I ain't saying IT is an unknown King book like the Regulators or something, just that over the years it's not been as read or referenced as some of King's other big works.
Astral Dog
Member
IT is the Clown
Sorry, I fixed the link.
Yeah, and the name of the book lol. Unless you're saying the whole of IT is just defined by Pennywise. I dunno, I wouldn't go that far though
Astral Dog
Member
I mean it was the scary clown for alot of kids in the 90s
except the Joker of course, now that is THE CLOWN
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I mean its the scaey clown for alot of people in the 90s
except the Joker of course, now that is THE CLOWN
Oh yeah, sure, Pennywise is as iconic as anything King has done, no doubt. But even with that more people default to Tim Curry's miniseries portrayal over the book's generally more sinister and nastier characterization.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I think the only book by King I would expect to be more famous than It is The Shining, and that's mainly because of the movie.
Anecodtally, as someone who deals with selling used books at a Goodwill store, we get lots of his stuff. It sells fucking instantly. I mean, most of his stuff moves rather quick. But, It is the only one that moves so quickly I have yet to get a hardcover copy for myself (it has to be on the floor for so long before an employee can buy it).
No, it's in this movie. Why wouldn't it be?
Anecodtally, as someone who deals with selling used books at a Goodwill store, we get lots of his stuff. It sells fucking instantly. I mean, most of his stuff moves rather quick. But, It is the only one that moves so quickly I have yet to get a hardcover copy for myself (it has to be on the floor for so long before an employee can buy it).
No, it's in this movie. Why wouldn't it be?
gnarlyxcharlie
Member
Yep, that's where most of my collection is from. I have every book except for some wolf novel and the newest Mercedes novel.
King has said that The Stand sells and is more popular than any other novel of his by far.
Kabuki Waq
Member
They can re write the whole ending for all I care. I had no Idea wtf king was thinking with that cocaine fueled garbage.
One of my fab books otherwise. Kid portion of the story was always the best.
One of my fab books otherwise. Kid portion of the story was always the best.
They just released a new hardcopy for the 35th anniversary btw, you may want to look into it.
General knowledge, really. You can just look at the reaction to this adaptation to see a lot of people aren't as familiar with it. The strong reaction to Pennywise not being like the Tim Curry's version, not knowing about the weird sex scene, and I don't think I've seen anyone even talk about the gay theme in parts of the book that show the intense homophobia in the town that Pennywise is implied to spur (I think all of that was omitted in the miniseries).
I think most people know It, but many aren't as familiar with the book itself than many of Kings other big works. I said Salem's Lot as one bigger than It before, but it's actually probably around the same level in the sense that everyone knows it, but they don't know the events of the books well, either not reading it or forgotten most of it.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Crazy. But, thinking on it, that is one of those books I always see on someone's bookshelf.
Gonna have to look into this. Thanks for the tip.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It's skewed then.
I don't think your perception of what that book is or how big it is aligns very well with reality.
(I guess it doesn't really matter tho. Apologies for dragging this difference of opinion out)
SuperStiltzkin
Member
I'd wager more people know more about IT than The Dark Tower.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
I think It also appeared as...
Jaws
Dead Dorsey Cocoran
Dead Belch
Giant Dog
Dead children in the Stanpipe
Paul Bunyan
Mrs Kersh
Creature from the Black Lagoon
Dracula (with razor blade teeth)
Dead Dorsey Cocoran
Dead Belch
Giant Dog
Dead children in the Stanpipe
Paul Bunyan
Mrs Kersh
Creature from the Black Lagoon
Dracula (with razor blade teeth)
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Patrick from when they announced he was going to appear in this setting, or Patrick from the novel. I ask because Patrick in the novel looks nothing like this depiction. Not only was the hairstyle and such off, him (as well as Bowers gang as a whole) were MUCH younger. That's what made everything surrounding them more disturbing.
elrechazado
Banned
Just the look of the kid on the poster looks quite creepy and dead eyed to me. Patrick to me was the most disturbing part of the entire book.
Bobby will probably tell me I'm objectively wrong tho.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Maybe the face looks similar. Book said he kinda had lips like him. Though other than being much younger (12 in the book), I think Patrick in the book was a little more meaty (described to have a round "moon face" and a thick body" similar to a lump of clay).
elrechazado
Banned
I'll make it even more simple, because I am not saying he looks like the book description. He looks in the trailer to me like a dead eyed sociopathic freak who snuffs his brother out with a pillow and feels nothing about it.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Patrick Hockstetter looked more like Kearney from the Simpsons than Danny Rayburn's bastard kid from Bloodline
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
This one kinda has to be considering how long the book is.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Chiming in late on this, but Dark Tower is the nerd cult following stuff of King's canon. It is the "I liked it before it was popular" segment of his works.
Salem's Lot is a step above that, and then The Stand a step above that.
The Shining, Carrie, and It are his most popular stuff in the mainstream it seems. At least anecdotally after more than a decade of working in book retailing. Shit, it is hard to convince people to give The Stand a try most of the time, but It is one of those things that just kept chugging along and only just had a resurgence because of the film coming.