I bet the first thing they said was - let's make sure players can always access the eShop.
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Iwata Asks: Wii U Chat
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I bet the first thing they said was - let's make sure players can always access the eShop.
Ok. Well people complaining about lack of party chat need to remember the differences in sub costs....
The PS3 doesn't have cross-game or party chat does it? I think this is just a reflection of Nintendo being Japanese. I wonder if NoA will be able to pressure them for updates. I don't think Wii U will be held back the same as Wii in that regard, it's more capable of being updated in the same way as the 360 and PS3.
That's not true. Games get limited to one core when suspended.
So what's the reason for no cross-game private chat?
And just a FYI. Steam has party chat, and it's completely free.
Maybe Nintendo is as inept with networky things as Iwata mentioned.
I gave no reason, i specifically referred to party chat due to not having One.
Steam is on the pc. Those things can do everything, we're talking consoles here
Really? did you miss the bitching from ps3 owners that wanted party chat for years, you cant be on xbox live then as its become the main feature to many on there now.
No but vita does, a sign that they listen to the outcry from fans on the ps3, and no doubt if it was possible due to os footprint they wouldve added it on ps3 long ago.
KillerTravis
Banned
What I really want is a return of the Weather Channel and Photo Channel. So far we have not even seen if there's a media player on Wii U. There's one on 3DS so one can only hope that they didn't forget about it.
Vita does? Nintendo must either not care to implement it, or is busy doing other things it thinks is more important.
Azure Dream
Member
Iwata does say they want to improve on that particular issue. It is strange though that you can't suspend the game, like you already do with the Home button, and chat during that. CPU/GPU usage wouldn't clash while the game is suspended, presumably.
Based on Iwata's words, I'd guess it actually was their intention to do something like that, and they couldn't pull it off in time for launch. As it is right now, taking a call is disruptive to the game experience (either you ignore it until later, or you lose your game progress that hasn't been saved), not a natural extension.
Based on Iwata's words, I'd guess it actually was their intention to do something like that, and they couldn't pull it off in time for launch. As it is right now, taking a call is disruptive to the game experience (either you ignore it until later, or you lose your game progress that hasn't been saved), not a natural extension.
I really hope that this is the reason for a lot of this.
http://us.playstation.com/psvita/apps/psvita-app-party.html
Yep, can all be playing different games too.
Sometimes when Reggie introduces a new feature I get the feeling he's just hearing about it himself. After hearing developers say Nintendo was actually taking their suggestions (pro controller, click-able sticks) I figured maybe they'd ask NoA for some input too. It's only their single biggest market after all, they could try to cater to it once in a while.
It's really got Vita flying of the shelves! I'm sure Nintendo's taken notice.
They're very insular. I doubt something like that would even stand out to them. Look at the 3DS with Swapnote. It's the antithesis of Live. I wonder how many MS points Blops 2 stationary would go for?
What is the story with this gif? It's...oddly hypnotic.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
So this feature is pretty much worthless then...
Agent Unknown
Member
Obviously they intend on using the RAM for various other possible future applications (well, one would hope so). I was just saying this is but one example of the extra RAM seemingly not being taken advantage of early on and a missed opportunity in that sense.
lwilliams3
Member
Interesting tidbit, Matt.
It had a big impact on 360 sales imho, and sony are well aware that its a feature people now expect with an online service.
Maybe they didn't have the time to have it ready for launch. Or it's not a missed opportunity for them cause they don't care. Who knows.
Let's all just get ready for a Crytek Metroid... just maybe, I hope.
Thanks Matt. Just what we need, someone with some real info. In that case then, Nintendo should have been able to do it
It's Sarah Vandella from some parody flick. I think it's the end credits.
In Japan?
Wii U is a global product. Blue Ocean and all that.
Ah, that's disappointing. Somehow being from an actual porn makes it far less interesting....
Tell that to Nintendo.
There are no shortage of girls where I'm from who exhibit similar behavior and gestures.
lol. Iwata told Nintendo.
You don't think that despite their Blue Ocean strategy Nintendo's still very Japan oriented? Things like Mario Kart have a universal appeal but a lot of what the do is clearly not aimed at the western market. It's a complaint I've seen levied against them many times and one I'm inclined to agree with.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
This would all suck if there wasn't a chance to add features to the OS.
I remain sort of optimistic.
I remain sort of optimistic.
That is a very good point....
Not as bad as it sounds, as far as I know there is only one Mii per user. You can't get into the Wii situation where you'd have a hundred Mii's on your Wii.
So in other words, you're saying "welcome to XBL circa 2005"?
Yeah, like pretty much every online service before it, it won't start perfect. NONE of them do, not even GAF's sacrosanct online paradise, Steam.
And if this were the successor to the 360, I would be alarmed. But it's not.
Yeah, they'll omit backwards compatibility and non-proprietary storage options instead. TO THE FUTURE.
Exactly.
so with having to end the game, that basically means no one will ever use this feature as intended, people will try it once maybe, and then that's it.
If I am playing a game, then most likely, I will just text some one.
Video chat has never been a big feature on anything anyways, as it is too involved, and kinda slow.
Really all they had to do was have party chat and a quick messaging system. That works in the background OS level.
If it is not at launch. Then I am not holding my breath for an update. It just seems Nintendo doesnt want to do that, but instead in its place, do something quirky and different.
If I am playing a game, then most likely, I will just text some one.
Video chat has never been a big feature on anything anyways, as it is too involved, and kinda slow.
Really all they had to do was have party chat and a quick messaging system. That works in the background OS level.
If it is not at launch. Then I am not holding my breath for an update. It just seems Nintendo doesnt want to do that, but instead in its place, do something quirky and different.
Come on so your saying because wii didnt have party chat then wii u 7 years later gets a free pass even though its become an expected feature?.
LOL. So true.
I think he is saying that all consoles do something good and somethings bad.
Sony added it to a portable that doesn't sell, rather than their home console that was desperately in need to feature-match its biggest rival.
I'm saying that something expected isn't always what we get. We'll see a lot of that next year, too, but in different ways, I can assure you of that.
I would have liked it there, too. It's not there at launch? Sucks, but I'll either shit or get off the pot about it. I can give my feedback to Nintendo now and expect an OS update to add it in later, not gonna piss and moan about something not being there just because I thought that it was a given, especially when it can be added later if it's that important to a lot of gamers like it seems to be.
No online service ever does EVERYTHING its competition does right out of the gate (see: Google+, PSN, etc.) If this is a sticking point for some, it is what it is. Be disappointed, cope, ask it to be changed. But let's not act like our expectations line up with reality 100% of the time and a mistaken omission is some intentional affront.
Hello everyone,
Nintendo is no longer following Blue Ocean Strategy or even the disruption model,
they said as much when they were asked while making the 3DS I think.
I mean 3DS is clearly NOT a disruptive product (we clearly saw that lol) and is a sustaining innovation regarding the DS.
Also the Wii U is Nintendo returning to the Red Ocean, heck the hardcore are the primary target of the competitors.
So stop the BOS talk nonsense please because really it makes my eyes bleed.
Nintendo is no longer following Blue Ocean Strategy or even the disruption model,
they said as much when they were asked while making the 3DS I think.
I mean 3DS is clearly NOT a disruptive product (we clearly saw that lol) and is a sustaining innovation regarding the DS.
Also the Wii U is Nintendo returning to the Red Ocean, heck the hardcore are the primary target of the competitors.
So stop the BOS talk nonsense please because really it makes my eyes bleed.
It wasnt added to psn because it couldnt, im willing to bet its in the os for ps4 from day one.
as I recall, Sony wanted to add it, but they said they didnt reserve enough system memory to allow it, and they were unable to change/add it.
if you take that, and how much people bitched and moaned, to Sony about it. And then you hear WiiU will have a whole 1GB reserved for the OS, and then they dont support that single most requested feature. It kinda sux.
Hopefully they do add it, but doesnt seem likely to me. It is a great feature and I know tons of people that use it, and they wont give it up.
superfamicom
Banned
So let me get this straight. The fact the video chat is even possible on the Wii U is because an outside party said, "come on guys, let us try and make video chat happen".?
Seriously?
I fucking hate Nintendo. One of the most lazy, anti-consumer companies outside of Apple in recent time.
What a fucking joke. I would be embarrassed if I were part of Nintendo.
P.S. If I'm mistaken or understanding wrong than I'm happy to stand corrected.
Seriously?
I fucking hate Nintendo. One of the most lazy, anti-consumer companies outside of Apple in recent time.
What a fucking joke. I would be embarrassed if I were part of Nintendo.
P.S. If I'm mistaken or understanding wrong than I'm happy to stand corrected.
Um, so someone tells them to do it (or at least suggests it) and then they do it?
The bastards.
When they're on record that they're freeing up OS RAM usage for developers, I call bullshit to the idea that they couldn't do it. At that point, it's a conscious decision not to bother trying.
With a lot of these features, and the fact you need a day 1 update, it seems like Nintendo has just tried to get out as much as it can. If this system has 2GB of ram, 1 of which is dedicated to the OS, I don't see why they couldn't make in-game chat an option in the future. I think, much like the 360 and PS3 did, the OS has a lot of room to improve and gain features. Let's hope so anyway.
You're mistaken. The first page of this Iwata Asks is literally titled in reference to the fact that Nintendo has been interested in doing this for at least 15 years. On that same page it says they looked into working with an outside company.
If that was the case why did they bother updateing the os on ps3 to add things over time? and then add party chat to psvita.