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Japan ceasing production of VCR players

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daveo42

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It's true...it's true.

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I still don't believe you because this is just too insane for me to process.

I actually have my parents old 4-Head Panasonic VCR that my dad purchased in 1983. It still works, shocking enough. It actually has a faux wood grain paneling and is a top loader. Even has a wired remote control. The thing weighs like a million pounds.

My parents had a GE VCR from the early 80s that lasted well into the late 00s. I think they ended up selling it in a garage sale before moving across the country. I only bought one cause I still had a few VHS tapes at the time and wasn't going to take theirs with me. Thing was a beast and had a zillion options on it.
 
I read (but years ago) that VHS releases outdid DVD releases by more than the double amount, and BR are even less than DVD. So there's plenty of content that are not available from other media.

It took quite a few years before DVD to really catch on. I remember working in a video rental store near the end of 1999 and early 2000 when all we had were like two shelves of DVD's and the rest of the video store was wall to wall VHS with the exception of a few isles that were dedicated to PS1, N64 and Dreamcast games (which was very new at the time). It really is true that DVD didn't take off until the launch of the PS2. From October to December of 2000 people really were buying PS2's in large numbers just to have a "budget" DVD player. It really was the thing that made DVD sales explode in popularity.I think by the end of 2001 to 2002 DVD's were overtaking VHS in sales?

This is also why Sony was hoping to strike lightning twice with the Blu-Ray player on the PS3.

But yeah, VHS was highly popular from the early '80s to the early 2000s (close to two decades), while DVD sales escalated in 2001 and hit their sales peak around 2006, then slowly declined. Sure DVD's are still being produced, but in much smaller numbers. Blu-Ray was never destined to reach the same sales highs as VHS or DVD no matter how hard Sony pushed it.


I still don't believe you because this is just too insane for me to process.

My parents had a GE VCR from the early 80s that lasted well into the late 00s. I think they ended up selling it in a garage sale before moving across the country. I only bought one cause I still had a few VHS tapes at the time and wasn't going to take theirs with me. Thing was a beast and had a zillion options on it.

This is the exact model that I have in my possession and it used to be the "family VCR" for many years:


It is kind of awesome to have, but goddamn does it take up a lot of space. '80s era Japanese electronics were so baller.

When my parents got a second VCR to replace this one, I use to connect both of the VCR's together to make my own low grade bootleg copies of VHS rentals. Heh, I didn't know any better back then.
 
I can't say it is a technology I feel nostalgic about or that I'm going to miss. While I have fond memories of audio cassettes, vhs made my life miserable until DVD players and movies became affordable (or more correctly, until divx ripped movies became available).

It will be a problem for those making an effort to preserve stuff only available on tape, though.
 
My dream of going through the family's old pile of VHS tapes that have been collecting dust for decades for the ultimate nostalgia trip is officially dead. The last time I checked VCR players were prohibitively expensive and now it's just going to get worse...
 

Nimajneb

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It's not that surprising that a lot of older people still use VCRs to record OTA TV. Last year my mother's old VCR broke down, so I started looking for an inexpensive digital replacement. I was surprised to find that the subscription free DVR market is practically nonexistent. I could only find one, and it cost $400, far more than she wanted to spend to replace her VCR.

I thought about getting her to use a streaming service, but the major networks all want you to use their own propriety service. It's not as easy as just buying her a box and a Hulu subscription.

Simple, inexpensive modern replacements for VCRs just don't exist.
 
It's not that surprising that a lot of older people still use VCRs to record OTA TV. Last year my mother's old VCR broke down, so I started looking for an inexpensive digital replacement. I was surprised to find that the subscription free DVR market is practically nonexistent. I could only find one, and it cost $400, far more than she wanted to spend to replace her VCR.

I thought about getting her to use a streaming service, but the major networks all want you to use their own propriety service. It's not as easy as just buying her a box and a Hulu subscription.

Simple, inexpensive modern replacements for VCRs just don't exist.

What about those cheap crappy converter boxes that have dvr function if you connect an external hard drive to it like this: http://www.walmart.com/ip/RCA-Digital-Converter-Box-with-DVR-Recording/46583029 ?
 
Hopefully no one tries to bring them back like they weirdly do with cassettes
and vinyl

Vinyl still has its place in physical media. The sound just can't be replicated by anything else.

There are a still a lot of things that were left behind on VHS that you won't find on any other type of media, unless it has been uploaded to Youtube or something.

Cassettes? Ehh... can't help you with that one.
 

Madao

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hm, last year i still used my VHS to play back some old recordings of some of my best times in F-Zero X to convert them to digital and get 60 fps recordings of them (i had recorded digital versions like a decade ago but my capture card back then was shit)

it's crazy how long these things last if properly stored away. also, for a long time they had better quality than DVD recorders when it came to recording stuff locally with good quality.
i can see the pixels with even the highest DVD recorder quality but the VHS beat it and the source ended up being better now that my capture card is much better.

example of VHS footage from 11 years ago converted to digital with a capture card.
 

Ogodei

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Businesses using outdated equipment (security cameras maybe?) would be my guess. I can't think there are many consumers buying the things any more...

Some people don't want to spring for a DVR. My mother just started going without when the VHS player died on her.
 
hm, last year i still used my VHS to play back some old recordings of some of my best times in F-Zero X to convert them to digital and get 60 fps recordings of them (i had recorded digital versions like a decade ago but my capture card back then was shit)

it's crazy how long these things last if properly stored away. also, for a long time they had better quality than DVD recorders when it came to recording stuff locally with good quality.
i can see the pixels with even the highest DVD recorder quality but the VHS beat it and the source ended up being better now that my capture card is much better.

example of VHS footage from 11 years ago converted to digital with a capture card.


You just reminded me that I use to make animation with Mario Paint and edit it together using VHS to create mini movies.

I used to do stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMAQWTrn_rU but obviously. nowhere near as good, and with captions on black screens instead of voice acting.
 
funny, i found a blank tape when working last week and made a joke about it flying of the shelves. my boss then said we already sold the other 5. who wants to record something new with it?
 

Fox Mulder

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Hopefully no one tries to bring them back like they weirdly do with cassettes
and vinyl

Vhs will have a niche just because of the mountains of obscure stuff that is forgotten about now.

Plus it does have an iconic shitty look with fucked up tracking and static if people want that too.
 

Dishwalla

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Ah yes, the old A/V cart. This meant you were going to watch episodes of Bill Nye or maybe even non school related things like The Mighty Ducks. My most vivid memory of one of these carts however is walking into the gym for P.E. and they had one of these out in the middle of the basketball court with CBS on it covering the 9/11 attacks. As we stood there and watched it, not even dressing out, the second tower fell(the first one had fallen during homeroom).
 
I really need to pick up a new VCR. I'm a musician, and the idea of wheeling out one of those TV stands that they used to have at my school with a big CRT and a VCR that's playing some accompanying visuals is just too good to pass up. Sadly, all my old VHS tapes as well as my old VCR have gotten owned over the past few years.

Edit: Yes!!! The A/V cart! Those things are magical.
 

pirata

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Holy shit, that's cool. I want one!



And yep, got a VCR under the bed and a stack of VHS tapes in the corner of the room. The vast majority of tapes these days are absurdly cheap, and half of the stuff released on VHS has never made it to any other format, including the internet. For anyone interested in video weirdness, VHS is a gold mine. Not to mention all of the classic TV (especially the commercials!) and weird home movies floating around on recorded tapes. Lots of treasure still to be found!
 
The sad thing is, this dooms a lot of home movies and general releases to potential unavailability, unless someone had take the time to do a VHS to digital transfer for them.
 
An old museum. If I remember it they needed a beta but grabbed the vcr machine because it was bigger.
Was it Cowboy Beebop where they had to go to some abandoned sky scraper to find a VCR? That's what this reminds me of.

Now all I can remember is that Cowboy Bebop episode where they search high and low for vcr's to play Faye's tape.

Speak Like A Child, yo, and yes, this was the ep that popped into my head immediately. Bebop isn't one my favorites but that episode specifically kinda f'ed with me so it's the exception, heh
 

Matty77

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Did not know they still made them. As someone who typically early adopts and doesn't collect things I have not owned one since the late 90's.

My brother has a couple from when he first started getting clean and had access to tapes and he had to search all over the place to find them secondhand.
 

Matty77

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any specific reason why?
Don't quote me on this but I think the recordings were superior,in fact I think they were better in general but they lost the format wars when VHS got porn. Kind of laserdisc, never found mainstream success but enthusiasts and tech people preferred them.
 

Madao

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funny, i found a blank tape when working last week and made a joke about it flying of the shelves. my boss then said we already sold the other 5. who wants to record something new with it?

i still have a brand new unopened blank tape somewhere but my VCR's recording function is fucked so i don't think i'll ever use it.
 
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