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Japan's Immigration Control: A Gulag straight out of war times

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Apparently a Canadian working there was held for 24 hours, imprisoned and harassed, force to buy an overpriced one-way ticket back to Canada, away from his partner and child. Most of his requests to call a lawyer, the embassy or friends were denied. The Economists writes, choice quotes below:

AN EXTRAORDINARY story is making the rounds among the hacks and other expats in Japan. A Canadian freelance journalist who has lived in Japan for years fell into the ugly whirlpool of Japan’s immigration-and-detention system. For years human-rights monitors have cited Japan’s responsible agencies for awful abuses; in their reports the system looks like something dark, chaotic and utterly incongruous with the country’s image of friendly lawfulness.

Still the case of Christopher Johnson beggars belief. Returning to Tokyo after a short trip on December 23rd he was ushered into an examination room, where his nightmare began. Over the next 24 hours he was imprisoned and harassed. Most of his requests to call a lawyer, the embassy or friends were denied, he says.

Officials falsified statements that he gave them and then insisted that he sign the erroneous testimony, he says. Guards tried to extort money from him and at one point even threatened to shoot him, he says—unless he purchased a wildly expensive ticket for his own deportation, including an overt kick-back for his tormentors. Once he was separated from his belongings, money was stolen from his wallet and other items removed from his baggage (as he has reported to the Tokyo police).

The problems to do with Japan’s immigration bureau have been known for years. Detainees regularly protest the poor conditions. They have staged hunger strikes and a few have committed suicide. A Ghanaian who overstayed his visa died in the custody of guards during a rough deportation in 2010. (In that case, the prosecutor has delayed deciding whether to press charges against the guards or to drop the case. A spokesperson refuses even to discuss the matter with media outlets that are not part of the prosecutor’s own “press club”.)

Mr Johnson’s ordeal closely matches the abuses exposed in a 22-page report by Amnesty International in 2002, “Welcome to Japan?”, suggesting that even the known problems have not been fixed. One reason why the practices may be tolerated is that the Japanese government apparently outsources its airport-detention operations to a private security firm.

It is a mystery to Mr Johnson why he was called aside for examination, but he suspects it is because of his critical coverage of Japan. (Mr Johnson’s visa status is unclear: in an interview, he said his lawyer advised him not to discuss it.)

Reached by The Economist, Japan’s immigration bureau said it cannot discuss individual cases, but that its detentions and deportations follow the law, records of hearings are archived and the cost of deportation is determined by the airline. The justice ministry declined to discuss the matter and referred all questions to the immigration bureau. Canada’s department of foreign affairs confirmed to The Economist that a citizen was detained and that it provided “consular assistance” and “liaised with local authorities”.

Mr Johnson’s own rambling account of his saga appeared on his blog, “Globalite Magazine”. It must be considered as unverified, despite The Economist’s attempts to check relevant facts with the Japanese and Canadian governments. As a result, we cannot endorse its accuracy. We present edited excerpts, below, because they are deeply troubling if true.

On my way home to Tokyo after a three-day trip to Seoul, I was planning to spend Christmas with my partner, our two dogs, and her Japanese family. I had flight and hotel reservations for ski trips to Hokkaido and Tohoku, and I was planning—with the help of regional government tourism agencies—to do feature stories to promote foreign tourism to Japan.

While taking my fingerprints, an immigration officer saw my name on a computer watch list. Without even looking through my passport, where he might find proper stamps for my travels, he marked a paper and gave it to another immigration officer. ”Come with me,” he said, and I did.

He led me to an open room. Tired after three hours’ sleep overnight in Seoul, I nodded off. Officers woke me up and insisted we do an “interview” in a private room, “for your privacy.” Sensing something amiss, I asked for a witness and a translator, to make sure they couldn’t confuse me with legal jargon in Japanese. An employee of Asiana Airlines came to witness the “interview.”

The immigration officers provided a translator—hired by immigration. She turned out to be the interpreter from hell. ”Hi, what’s your name?” I asked, introducing myself to her. “I don’t have to tell you anything,” she snapped at me. She was backed up by four uniformed immigration officials.

Q: “What are the names of the hotels where you stayed in April in the disaster zone? What are the names of people you met in Fukushima?”

A: “Well, I stayed at many places, I met hundreds of people.”

Q: “What are their names?”

A: “Well, there are so many.”

Q: “You are refusing to answer the question! You must say exactly, in detail.”

(Before I could answer, next question.)

Q: “What were you doing in May 2010? Who did you meet then?”

A: “That was a long time ago. Let me think for a moment.”

The interpreter butted in: “See, you are refusing to answer. You are lying.”

The “interpreter”, biased toward her colleagues in the immigration department, intentionally mistranslated my answers, and repeatedly accused me of making unclear statements. I understood enough of their conversation in Japanese to realise she totally got my story wrong.

Without hesitation, he wrote on a document: “No proof. Entry denied.”

“But I do have proof,” I said.

But he refused to acknowledge it. “You must sign here. You cannot refuse.”

For about four hours, I sat in limbo, unable to properly communicate with the outside world. Starving and tired, I couldn’t think clearly. Various people in various uniforms aggressively shoved various documents in my face for me to sign. I simply said “wait” to everything and zoned out into a world of denial that this nightmare wasn’t happening.

At about 4 pm, the security guards came to take me away. Two haggard old men probably in their 60s or 70s, were like dogs barking at my heels. They were constantly shaking me down for money. They demanded 28,000 yen as a “service fee” for taking me to buy rice balls and cold noodles at the convenience store.

What is going on here, I wondered. I started to get worried when they took me deep into a cold tunnel below the airport. Away from [ordinary travellers in the airport], they got more aggressive with demands of now 30,000 yen for a “hotel” fee. I was feeling threatened. (I would later find Amnesty International accounts of rogue guards working for the airlines beating up airline customers in the tunnel until they paid up.)

Well, at least I’m going to a hotel, I thought. I’ll make some phone calls there, go online, and get higher-ranking officials to help me out of this big misunderstanding.

* * *

The “hotel” was in fact a jail. A prison, a detention facility, a dungeon. ”The police just told me I could make a call from here,” I said in Japanese. A guard told me flat out in Japanese: “You have no rights here.”

A sign, in English, Japanese, and other languages, lists phone numbers for United Nations organisations dedicated to helping victims of state brutality.

“It says right here that I can call these numbers.”

“No you can’t.”

They led me into a locked off area with at least two sleeping cells. The room was cold, with no windows. Lying under thin blankets, using my parka (down jacket) as a pillow, I stared at the ceiling and walls.

Later that night, I was ordered into the common room. A man, probably in his 50s, was waiting to see me. His tie said “immigration.” He was warm and compassionate. He tried his best in English and Japanese to explain what was happening. He said, to my surprise, that the other officers were “idiots”. He said they had no business putting foreigners—tourists or expats—in jail like this. “It is a shame for Japan,” he said. “Embarrassing.”

After talking to me, he went out for a few minutes and came back to give me more documents to sign. One was titled “Waiving the Right to Appeal”, meaning, “We are kicking you out of the country.” The other was an “appeal form”. It said I had three days to appeal to “the Minister of Justice.” This at least gave me hope that someone would recognise their mistake, and let me go home

After he left, the guards granted me a privilege—the right to take a shower. My show of respect, and polite language toward them, was reciprocated. They let me make a phone call. They gave me a form to fill out—this is Japan, after all—listing the nationality, name, phone number and relation of that person.

I tried to milk it. While pretending to check my phone messages (technically not a phone call), I sent messages on Facebook. I wrote short, and sent quickly, in case they caught me: (In jail now … Narita … No rights … Innocent … Help me.)

I went back to my cell dejected. I lay under blankets in my winter clothes, tormented. I chased away dark thoughts—suicide, protest, escape—from my mind. I cried for myself, and for the tortured souls of the previous tenants.

* * *

I was so exhausted from the ordeal that I did fall asleep, shortly after they turned off the lights at 11pm. When I woke up at 10 am on Saturday morning, December 24, my cell was unlocked. [From] the jail’s common room, I was allowed to call my partner. “Don’t worry,” I said, “They’re going to let me go home soon. It’s all been a big mistake.”

The guards now let me make a second call, to my embassy representative. Though helpful and genuinely concerned, she said, “only Japan has authority. There’s nothing we can do.” She said my worried family and friends, who saw my messages on Facebook, had been calling her to offer assistance. She also had faxed a list of lawyers and legal assistance agencies in Japan to the immigration officers.

It was a smart move, because it showed them that powerful people in Canada—the department of foreign affairs, the Canadian embassy, media people—were indeed watching what they were doing with me, a human, with a name, family and supportive friends. It was a way to humanise me. [But] the papers were useless. How could I contact a legal website, if I wasn’t allowed internet? How could I call a lawyer, if I wasn’t allowed phone calls?

There was another call for me. This time from someone at Asiana Airlines. ”How are you doing this morning?” she asked, cheerfully. She said they had been calling my partner at home, asking her to pay 170,000 yen for my one-way ticket to Canada. I wasn’t pleased to hear that. “I’m not going home to Canada,” I scolded her. “My home is in Tokyo. I live here, in Japan.”

“This is a good offer, you should take it,” the airline employee insisted. “If you don’t, the price will go up. The normal price is 400,000 yen. If you wait, you will pay 400,000 yen.”

“That’s crazy,” I said. “I paid 25,000 yen for a round trip ticket to Seoul on your airline. And now you want me to pay 170,000 yen, or 400,000 yen? That’s $5,000, for a one-way ticket. That’s more than five times the normal rate, because I’m in jail.” The airline employee hung up.

I was worried. “This is a scam,” I thought. The airline guards are shaking us down for money, and now the airline is price gouging me, and even harassing my partner to pay.

But I was cheered about an hour later, when the guards told me, “Pack up your bags. Don’t leave anything behind.” It was good news. They were going to let me out of here. My appeal worked, I thought. They’re going to release me and let me go home.

A Special Inquiry Officer sat me down in his office, across from the Special Examination Room where everything had gone wrong a day earlier. He showed me a document from the Ministry of Justice. It was an “Exclusion Order”, with my name on it, next to the details of a flight leaving for Canada.

I was crestfallen. “No, that’s not right,” I said, confused.

“There is a plane leaving for Canada at 7pm. You must take that plane.”

“But I live in Tokyo. I have a life here.”

“If you do not take that plane, you could end up in jail for months, years. And you’ll never be allowed back into Japan.”


Next, the airline employees came around to hit me up for money. They now wanted 200,000 yen for a one-way ticket on Air Canada. I told them it was a rip-off. I knew that a round trip ticket at HIS travel agency in Tokyo was 50,000 yen plus tax. “OK. 170,000 yen, plus 30,000 for the hotel fee and the security guards,” they said. “This is outrageous,” I said.

I grabbed my phone from them, since they still had my passport and bags. I called a friend. “Quick, call the police. Tell them I’m in the immigration office, Narita terminal one.” The immigration officers derided me. “Police do not have jurisdiction to come in here,” they laughed. “Narita is a special legal area.”

* * *

The airline employee and the [private security guards] were alone with me in a room. ”You must hurry up and buy this ticket,” the Asiana employee said. “Can you pay 150,000 yen?” He went out to negotiate with another airline. When he came back, he said, “The best I can do is 130,000 yen, plus 30,000 yen for the [guards].”

“No,” I said. “This is wrong. This is a scam. You are just trying to profit off someone in a weak position, a victim of human rights abuses.”

Again, he went out, and came back with a new offer. ”I have asked for special prices. I can do it for 100,000 yen. Anything lower is absolutely impossible. I’m really trying to help you. Please get on this flight.”

It was already after 5 o’clock. People were checking in for the 7 pm flight. I was really sweating now.

This time, he came back with a young, stocky guy. He was wearing a blue uniform. “Do you see this gun?” he said in Japanese, turning around to show me a weapon in its holster. “I have the legal authority to use this if you refuse to get on that flight. Now are you going to buy that ticket?”

I was angry now. They are forcing me at gunpoint to buy an overpriced ticket.

The [guards] ushered me out of the room and through the airport. They still had my bag, my passport, my wallet, credit cards, everything. I had no choice. They whisked me through the airport like a criminal. I didn’t have to line-up for x-ray machines or immigration. [They] pushed me through VIP lines, ahead of pilots and flight attendants.

As we walked to the departure gate, they continued to badger me for money. I told them flat out, “This is wrong. Have some pride. I am a working man just like you.”

The older guys backed off. They sensed I wasn’t going to give in to their pressure. But a hideous older bulldog of a woman was much more relentless. Even the Asiana officers were taken aback by her uncultured onslaught. She raised the demand in increments—30,000 yen, 35,000 yen, 38,900 yen—the tactic of a third world market haggler, trying to pressure you to buy before the price goes higher.

Still holding my passport, she dogged me all the way to the gate. “I’m going to fly with him all the way to Canada,” she said to another [guard], in Japanese so that I could hear it.

At the departure gate, I sat down amongst ordinary people happy to be going home for Christmas or on a ski holiday to Canada. I made several last phone calls to loved ones in Japan. My partner cried so heavily, she made me cry. I told her to hug our dogs for me. At that point, I realised I might never see our 15-year-old dog ever again.

My heart burst open like a seawall against a tsunami. Flowing with tears, I ran to the bathroom—to hell with asking the guards. I returned to my seat near the gate. I didn’t even look at anyone. I just covered my face in my hands and cried.

Finally, the [female guard] gave up. The two male [guards] escorted me onto the plane, and finally gave me back my passport.

As the Pacific coastline came into view, I gazed perhaps one last time at the street lights and dark rice fields below. It was a feeling I had never considered before: what it would be like to leave Japan, and not return.

I could only notice that the vast majority of space below was filled with a deep and utter darkness. Somewhere out there, in the gulag of detention centres dotting the land like black holes in the heart of Japan, were the cries of innocent people who would not be heard.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2012/01/japans-immigration-control

Horrible. How can a highly developed country like Japan be like this. Too bad they, like all other highly developed countries, don't have the high birthrate or energy of post-war periods. A contributing factor to their stagnating economy, it just doesn't bode well for Japan.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Read the whole thing. Holy shit.

I never thought about how the authorities would try to fuck you over there with a language barrier (which is probably something I should have realized before) until that article. That's awful, especially if they get a translator that works for them or something. Yikes.
 

Zeal

Banned
I really doubt some of the validity of this story. I have known tons of people who lived in Japan and had nothing but positive experiences. I have a friend who currently teaches english in Japan and is making good money and seems to be really happy.

This just doesn't seem like Japan at all, and is incredibly strange and downright weird. I mean, Japan is not China or North Korea.

This is troubling.
 
I really doubt some of the validity of this story. I have known tons of people who lived in Japan and had nothing but positive experiences. I have a friend who currently teaches english in Japan and is making good money and seems to be really happy.

This just doesn't seem like Japan at all, and is incredibly strange and downright weird. I mean, Japan is not China or North Korea.

This is troubling.

So that man from Ghana who died while in custody was not real?
 

Steelrain

Member
Yeah...I don't fuck around with immigration here. Especially considering how much I used to get stopped by police in my neighborhood. I've heard some fucked up stories about people getting picked up because they didn't have their gaijin cards on then and ended up detained for a long time under terrible conditions.

These motherfuckers don't fuck around.
 

Mik2121

Member
Just read the whole thing. It's kinda hard to believe though..

I live in Japan as well and while they do have strict laws, I've never seen anything this bad. I've left and entered the country about 10 times already. Once I forgot to get my re-entry visa and they did their best to make me one in 5 minutes just so I could get into the plane (a round-trip one, so it's not like they just wanted me out of the country :p) so it's not like they didn't even worry about me.
The closest 'issue' I've ever had, was bringing some ham from Spain, and they telling me I couldn't bring it in. They showed me all the information and said that I needed a receipt saying it was from Spain indeed (I didn't have any). They told me they'd keep it until then, for security reasons... but it was just a bit of ham so I told them it was alright.


Regarding this guy, this part:

It is a mystery to Mr Johnson why he was called aside for examination, but he suspects it is because of his critical coverage of Japan. (Mr Johnson’s visa status is unclear: in an interview, he said his lawyer advised him not to discuss it.)

Entering a country with an 'unclear visa' isn't the most intelligent thing ever. Then again, I always enter the country via Kansai International (the Osaka airport) and not Narita, so maybe they're worse there...?


Yeah...I don't fuck around with immigration here. Especially considering how much I used to get stopped by police in my neighborhood. I've heard some fucked up stories about people getting picked up because they didn't have their gaijin cards on then and ended up detained for a long time under terrible conditions.

These motherfuckers don't fuck around.
Well now, where have you heard about that? I almost always forget to bring my 'gaijin card' and only once I had a police stop me because my bike looked a lot like one that got stolen nearby recently. I told them I didn't have it but I could go home and take it if they really needed it. They said it was alright and let me go...

I think a problem here could be the attitude some people take when they're put against the police and the like.
 

mavs

Member
Entering a country with an 'unclear visa' isn't the most intelligent thing ever. Then again, I always enter the country via Kansai International (the Osaka airport) and not Narita, so maybe they're worse there...?

Unclear to The Economist, because Mr. Johnson has been mum on the topic. I bet his status is crystal clear to himself, his lawyer, and the Japanese authorities.
 
Terrible if all of its true.

I really doubt some of the validity of this story. I have known tons of people who lived in Japan and had nothing but positive experiences. I have a friend who currently teaches english in Japan and is making good money and seems to be really happy.

This just doesn't seem like Japan at all, and is incredibly strange and downright weird. I mean, Japan is not China or North Korea.

This is troubling.

America seems like a cool place but we have some serious fucked up agencies. There was a kid in my class who was suspected of trying to engage in a terrorist attack (for some reason?). He was a foreign exchange student from the middle east if you didn't already guess that. Essentially there was a problem with the plane during the trip, (a gear problem of some sort), the pilot told the passengers. Some of them were hysterical thinking they were going to die. One lady started crying and screaming at him "This is happening because of you!" I guess others on the plane turned on him so he started yelling back at everybody else. It turns out that the plane made it home safe (I guess the problem was overblown). Regardless of this TSA still took him when he got off the plane. He was then kept in an interrogation or a waiting room, often bobbing between the two. He wasn't provided nor allowed food, water, or even a toilet for over 12 hours against his will.

The disturbing part is that he wasn't the only one there. There were others in the "waiting room".
 

Big-E

Member
Going there for a week on Wednesday. I wonder if I will be questioned as I am going with a Chinese Tour Group and I will be the only foreigner with them.
 

quaere

Member
Really melodramatic. Should have just stuck to the facts, would have been more believable. As it is it seems like he has an agenda.
 
This just doesn't seem like Japan at all, and is incredibly strange and downright weird. I mean, Japan is not China or North Korea.

Every country has power-tripping dicks who work in customs and immigration. Every country. Couple that with the bureaucracy Japan is famous for, and you have a nightmare.
 

Rezbit

Member
I know that is an awful thing to have happen to you, but some of the writing in that article just made me laugh:

"I cried for myself, and for the tortured souls of the previous tenants."
"I could only notice that the vast majority of space below was filled with a deep and utter darkness. Somewhere out there, in the gulag of detention centres dotting the land like black holes in the heart of Japan, were the cries of innocent people who would not be heard."
 

Mik2121

Member
Going there for a week on Wednesday. I wonder if I will be questioned as I am going with a Chinese Tour Group and I will be the only foreigner with them.

Really...? You shouldn't really have a problem at all. There are many reasons why you could be with a chinese tour group, they won't keep you in a dark jail while they try to squeeze as much money as they can for your trip back...


Again, this guy sounds like he's got some serious agenda going. Plus, probably issues on his side as well that he (of course) didn't really mention. It sucks horribly that he didn't get to see his family, and hopefully he can get back in and stay with them, but the way the article is written makes it look like he tried to have it sound way worse than it really was.
 

Steelrain

Member
Just read the whole thing. It's kinda hard to believe though..

I live in Japan as well and while they do have strict laws, I've never seen anything this bad. I've left and entered the country about 10 times already. Once I forgot to get my re-entry visa and they did their best to make me one in 5 minutes just so I could get into the plane (a round-trip one, so it's not like they just wanted me out of the country :p) so it's not like they didn't even worry about me.
The closest 'issue' I've ever had, was bringing some ham from Spain, and they telling me I couldn't bring it in. They showed me all the information and said that I needed a receipt saying it was from Spain indeed (I didn't have any). They told me they'd keep it until then, for security reasons... but it was just a bit of ham so I told them it was alright.


Regarding this guy, this part:



Entering a country with an 'unclear visa' isn't the most intelligent thing ever. Then again, I always enter the country via Kansai International (the Osaka airport) and not Narita, so maybe they're worse there...?



Well now, where have you heard about that? I almost always forget to bring my 'gaijin card' and only once I had a police stop me because my bike looked a lot like one that got stolen nearby recently. I told them I didn't have it but I could go home and take it if they really needed it. They said it was alright and let me go...

I think a problem here could be the attitude some people take when they're put against the police and the like.
I personally know two people detained for not having their gaijin cards. They were treated like shit, threatened with deportation and they tried to get them to sign all sorts of shit. If it wasnt for my school intervening they probably would have been up shit creek.Shit like that is apparently so common that orientation at my school involves a 2 hour lecture pretty much telling us to be on top of our shit or we will get picked up, expect bad treatment and that they can only do so much for us. Shit I get stopped at least once a week asking for my gaijin card. I don't fuck around with the police out here because they are usually bored as hell. A bored cop anywhere is a bad thing for minorities.
 

Big-E

Member
Really...? You shouldn't really have a problem at all. There are many reasons why you could be with a chinese tour group, they won't keep you in a dark jail while they try to squeeze as much money as they can for your trip back...


Again, this guy sounds like he's got some serious agenda going. Plus, probably issues on his side as well that he (of course) didn't really mention. It sucks horribly that he didn't get to see his family, and hopefully he can get back in and stay with them, but the way the article is written makes it look like he tried to have it sound way worse than it really was.


Oh I know they wont keep me in a dungeon, I just don't want to be asked questions. I hate dealing with immigration anywhere.
 

Mik2121

Member
I personally know two people detained for not having their gaijin cards. They were treated like shit, threatened with deportation and they tried to get them to sign all sorts of shit. If it wasnt for my school intervening they probably would have been up shit creek.Shit like that is apparently so common that orientation at my school involves a 2 hour lecture pretty much telling us to be on top of our shit or we will get picked up, expect bad treatment and that they can only do so much for us. Shit I get stopped at least once a week asking for my gaijin card. I don't fuck around with the police out here because they are usually bored as hell. A bored cop anywhere is a bad thing for minorities.
Really? Jeez, that sounds bad. I never get stopped by the police so I guess you're quite out of luck :/ Not trying to sound bad, but just in case... are you black? That could (sadly) explain why you might get stop so much. And even then it would surprise me a bit.

Oh I know they wont keep me in a dungeon, I just don't want to be asked questions. I hate dealing with immigration anywhere.
Well, they may ask you how long are you staying here, or where are you staying (info that you will have to write in the small document they'll give you in the plane, anyway). Other than that, what did you came here for (tourism), and if you live or not in China. Either way, whatever your answer is, you really shouldn't have many problems.

Just remember they're the inmigration officers, and don't try to sound douchey. Because then, yeah, you could have problems (not only in Japan but pretty much everywhere).
 

-Eddman-

Member
Being from a country with an outstanding leadership in human rights abuses (specially against journalists), corruption and rampant extortions on foreigners, it's not hard to believe the story. In Japan's defense, I can say that if he was indeed reporting negative stuff about Fukushima and the related companies, maybe it was a third party, someone offended or affected by his work who bribed the airline and those particular officers to do that horrible things to him.
 

Steelrain

Member
Really? Jeez, that sounds bad. I never get stopped by the police so I guess you're quite out of luck :/ Not trying to sound bad, but just in case... are you black? That could (sadly) explain why you might get stop so much. And even then it would surprise me a bit.


Well, they may ask you how long are you staying here, or where are you staying (info that you will have to write in the small document they'll give you in the plane, anyway). Other than that, what did you came here for (tourism), and if you live or not in China. Either way, whatever your answer is, you really shouldn't have many problems.

Just remember they're the inmigration officers, and don't try to sound douchey. Because then, yeah, you could have problems (not only in Japan but pretty much everywhere).
Yep, I'm black. I don't get pulled over as much as some of my friends in the states so I guess they gotta pick up the slack out here lol.
 

The Boat

Member
dude is embellishing the fuck out of this story

if he "doesn't want to talk about his visa" then it's obvious he's overstayed it

Of course, but even if his story is half as bad as he's saying, it's disgusting and it's the sort of thing that should be brought to the public's attention as much as possible, otherwise it'll remain like this forever. Again, even if he overstayed, does it justify that kind of treatment?
 
The truth of the matter is as a foreigner in Japan, you gotta have your shit straight, because people do not share the same rights as North Americans do. I'm not saying that Japan is worse or better than US/Canada in this regard, but it is certainly different. I have never had any experience with the justice system there, nor have I done extensive research into the matter. I have only heard what other people have warned me about, so I am reluctant to go into specifics.

I will say this, NEVER be anywhere in Japan without your foreigner card. Never accept anything from anybody you don't know. And if you can, you want to make sure you have proof as to the nature of your purpose in their country beyond your passport/card. When I got the ole' shakedown, I made sure to show my card and my student ID. Once they found out I was American, they generally changed their demeanor. After all, why would I leave the US and fly halfway around the world to rob houses in Sugamo? I never had a problem, but I kept my nose squeaky clean, because I heard their justice system is not quite as 'transparent' as what I am probably used to expecting, to put it politely.

It is my estimation that this guy done goofed somehow. However, it doesn't excuse his treatment if we are to take him at his word.

EDIT: Sad thing is? The most offensive thing to me is the "I don't have to tell you anything" line. That's just so discourteous, it would make my blood boil.
 
I really doubt some of the validity of this story. I have known tons of people who lived in Japan and had nothing but positive experiences. I have a friend who currently teaches english in Japan and is making good money and seems to be really happy.

This just doesn't seem like Japan at all, and is incredibly strange and downright weird. I mean, Japan is not China or North Korea.

This is troubling.

You're reasoning for not believing the story is so flawed I'm almost in shock.
 

Ether_Snake

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I really doubt some of the validity of this story. I have known tons of people who lived in Japan and had nothing but positive experiences. I have a friend who currently teaches english in Japan and is making good money and seems to be really happy.

This just doesn't seem like Japan at all, and is incredibly strange and downright weird. I mean, Japan is not China or North Korea.

This is troubling.

Does your friend write critically of the Japanese government?

dude is embellishing the fuck out of this story

if he "doesn't want to talk about his visa" then it's obvious he's overstayed it

HAHAHAHA, yes, that's how Canada would treat a Japanese who has overstayed his Visa amirite?

Pathetic.
 

Mik2121

Member
HAHAHAHA, yes, that's how Canada would treat a Japanese who has overstayed his Visa amirite?

Pathetic.

How do we know that's how he got treated? Because he said so? The same guy that doesn't even want to talk about his visa?

Yeah...

Also, one issue is overstaying your visa while in the country (they got warnings when you make your visa saying you gotta renew your visa before it expires or you might have to pay a fine and depending on the case, get out of the country too), and another is entering the country while your visa was expired. Not letting you enter because of your expired visa makes sense to me, though.

Then again, I did that once. I said I was entering as a tourist, then got all my papers done, then went to Spain during Christmas and when I came back I entered with a working visa (used to have a student visa before) and had no issues at all.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Somehow I don't think that an expired visa is in any way justification for this:
The “interpreter”, biased toward her colleagues in the immigration department, intentionally mistranslated my answers, and repeatedly accused me of making unclear statements. I understood enough of their conversation in Japanese to realise she totally got my story wrong.

Without hesitation, he wrote on a document: “No proof. Entry denied.”

“But I do have proof,” I said.

But he refused to acknowledge it. “You must sign here. You cannot refuse.”
The “hotel” was in fact a jail. A prison, a detention facility, a dungeon. ”The police just told me I could make a call from here,” I said in Japanese. A guard told me flat out in Japanese: “You have no rights here.”
“Do you see this gun?” he said in Japanese, turning around to show me a weapon in its holster. “I have the legal authority to use this if you refuse to get on that flight. Now are you going to buy that ticket?”

But keep on blaming the victim, I guess.
 

Mik2121

Member
Somehow I don't think that an expired visa is in any way justification for this:




But keep on blaming the victim, I guess.

I don't think anybody is justifying that, but rather wondering how much of it is true, coming from someone that's not even talking about the main issue that started all this (his visa status). If all that really happened, then it's messed up.

Then again, the way it's written already makes it hard to believe (with all the melodramatic writing), so you might also understand why not everybody straight believes this...
 

GorillaJu

Member
Article is absolutely pointless without giving knowledge of his visa status. If he doesn't have legal entry into Japan, then he can't enter the country, even if he "has a life there."

It sounds like his Visa expired so he took a weekend trip to Korea to renew his 90-day tourist stay. This is illegal, despite that many people do this. I'm not going to jump to conclusions, but if he says he has a house and a girlfriend/boyfriend and he doesn't have permission for long term stay, that decreases his chances of entry. You should never hint at yourself returning for a long stay if you don't have an actual visa.

The steps to take would be to get a new work visa if possible, or summer working holiday visa, even. If not possible, go home to Canada, send his partner over and get married, then go back together on a spousal visa.

For those people saying "stay away from Japan," well I wouldn't expect every response to be intelligent, but you sound particularly ridiculous. I have had experiences with getting into Japan on shady visa situations, and everytime it's been straightforward and worked out just fine in the end. I even, stupidly, one time said "I'm looking for work" entering with a one-way ticket (the thing you never, ever say), and they asked me what I'd do if I couldn't find a job. I said I had money (no proof of this) and that I'd just go home if I couldn't find one. Entered fine.

This is a sensationalist article, it shouldn't surprise anyone if facts are muddled. For example he makes it clear that he isn't completely fluent but still quotes things the Japanese staff say as fact. He also makes some pretty big accusations - that he is being detained for writing scathing articles about TEPCO or the Japanese government.

I do have sympathy for him and I was outraged reading some of the things that I heard, guards trying to extort money, and the Asiana airlines employee as well. Especially the Asiana thing. I would be contacting that company immediately to inform them of what happened.

But as always, try to reserve rash judgments when you read one side of a story.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
This seems heavily dramatized, and there's no way to comment either way without knowing his visa status.
 

xbhaskarx

Member
I think both parts of this line should be underlined in the OP:
It is a mystery to Mr Johnson why he was called aside for examination, but he suspects it is because of his critical coverage of Japan. (Mr Johnson’s visa status is unclear: in an interview, he said his lawyer advised him not to discuss it.)

I have been to Japan three times and never had problems. My mom goes to conferences there all the time, as does my uncle on business.
So as long as my visa is good and I don't criticize Japan, I should be fine?
Sucks for this guy, though.

Japan I love nuclear disasters, please don't harass me next time I am there.
 

Zaptruder

Banned
Looks like the story here is that there are some really corrupt xenophobic redneck people working in their immigration department...

And if anecdotal evidence is much to go by, then that they congregate in a far higher proportion in that field than other fields of work. Which is really bad given that they're the immigration department.

They're more than happy to take advantage of confusing and ambiguous situations in order to shake people down.

Maybe their selection procedure intentionally or unintentionally selects for that type of person.
 
This seems heavily dramatized, and there's no way to comment either way without knowing his visa status.

Say he was in the wrong about his VISA status. Does this make it okay for him to be forced to buy an overpriced plane ticket at gunpoint?

Or, are you saying that the fact he won't talk about his VISA status makes you think he made the whole thing up?

I must admit, I found the 'dog' angle that he played up for dramatic effect to be hilarious.
 

GorillaJu

Member
Dozens of writers, both foreign and Japanese, have heavily criticized the government, TEPCO and other parties over the poor handling of the disaster. People fucking love criticizing their government here. It's a national past time.

Which is why his article has some parts that seem well, spurious.
 

Mik2121

Member
I even, stupidly, one time said "I'm looking for work" entering with a one-way ticket (the thing you never, ever say), and they asked me what I'd do if I couldn't find a job. I said I had money (no proof of this) and that I'd just go home if I couldn't find one.

That's pretty much what I did, actually. I had finished my studies and went to Singapore to study 6 more weeks. My student visa expired on my second day in Singapore.

While there, I had an interview with a Japanese company and passed. Then I had to do a second interview, but by then I was already going back to Osaka (where all my stuff was, on my gf's house and a small storage room). When I entered the country I did so with a tourist visa, but I told them I was going in for another job interview and that I had my stuff there. They also asked me what would I do if I didn't get the job. I told them I'd send all my stuff back to Spain and leave. They let me pass and wished me luck with the interview...


I passed the interview and I'm now working in Fukuoka. I've been 6 years here and have yet to get myself into any trouble. Always trying to keep all my documents up to date and all that.
 
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