This is absolutely true. WALL-E becomes crap at this exact moment. I'm even going to say WALL-E is Pixar's worst film. Not sure how I feel about the Finding Nemo comment.
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John Carter - Trailer #2
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This is absolutely true. WALL-E becomes crap at this exact moment. I'm even going to say WALL-E is Pixar's worst film. Not sure how I feel about the Finding Nemo comment.
You're right, that tracking shot is great.
I get a feeling from Joe Wright's work that he's much more interested in technical showmanship than he is in the characters and their emotions. Hanna travelling around with the family is a nice idea, but I never felt much. Maybe because the daughter was such an annoying Movie Kid.
It ultimately settles into the generic 'framed
villains turning up to kill side characters with a connection to the lead just so we know how evil they are, a big "Who am I!?" identity freakout where the main character realizes they will forever be separate from society, etc...
MI4 is not in any way interesting in character or storyline, but it works as a constant spectacle and achieves what it sets out to do.
SCULLIBUNDO
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SCULLIBUNDO
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Because people might have become interested in the film.
Discotheque
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Yeah that's a really nice looking poster.
Expendable.
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Be glad you haven't sat through the horrors of Cars 2.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I've not seen Cars 2, but I'd say Cars is easily their worst film, with Nemo and (runs to safe distance) Up just above it.
Disclaimer: Up suffers the same problem as WALL-E, only much earlier in the film. Up's opening twenty minutes is some of the best stuff Pixar has ever produced. Goddamn magicl, heartwarming and excellently orchestrated. Then the entirety of the film after that is one long, boring drag that fails to capitalize on the promise of the film's premise.
Disclaimer: Up suffers the same problem as WALL-E, only much earlier in the film. Up's opening twenty minutes is some of the best stuff Pixar has ever produced. Goddamn magicl, heartwarming and excellently orchestrated. Then the entirety of the film after that is one long, boring drag that fails to capitalize on the promise of the film's premise.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I've been saying it and I'll keep saying it: with the right script, Joe Wright would be an amazing choice to direct the next Bond film.
Discotheque
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I don't like the franchise either now that I think about it, considering the fact I only like 2 of the 4 films. 50% isn't good for such a short series.
Joe Wright is definitely more concerned with showing off technically, but I think that's what made Hanna so entertaining for me. Action films have kinda gotten boring lately and I thought stuff like Hanna and Scott Pilgrim just felt like really enjoyable theater experiences because of it.
I want him on the next Bond. (uh I knew Sculli was gonna say this...)
Joe Wright is definitely more concerned with showing off technically, but I think that's what made Hanna so entertaining for me. Action films have kinda gotten boring lately and I thought stuff like Hanna and Scott Pilgrim just felt like really enjoyable theater experiences because of it.
I want him on the next Bond. (uh I knew Sculli was gonna say this...)
Wall-E did not go downhill at the landing of the Axiom. Geez, the way people complain about it, I think ones were actually expecting to see Wall-E die by dead battery after hauling trash that was too big. The most emotional moments were built into the second half.
There was no possible way for the story develop unless it was an entirely different story aka it really did suck.
I get it if the movie wasn't liked which is fine, but the half a movie being good thing continues to make no sense to me in realtion to Wall-E.
With that said, this movie cannot be good if it has the same sensibilities as Wall-E. Wall-E was never an action movie and never marketed as such so the pacing was different. If Stanton directs it the way he directed that, it will suck.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I would have been happier if there were no humans left on the Axiom. If it was just the robots and their plight/fight to re-seed Earth - this giant mystery that their directives have revolved around their entire operating life, it would have been much better. The humans ruined goddamn everything. Such lazy writing went into them.
Right now that poster should be on the sides of buildings around the world.
There were a bunch of superfluous cutaways to
periphery characters getting killed off by the villains
That could be terrific. It would be a more exciting 'prestige' director choice than Sam Mendes.
Would they let The Chemical Brothers score it?
Would have been a much more effective cautionary tale too.
faceless007
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Forgotten about Up already? I don't blame you.
They seem to be deeply ashamed that the movie is about Martians. It's not just the title, Mars isn't mentioned in the trailers.
It's funny, right now they'd be better off with the original 'ZOMGZ BOYS WON'T SEE IT' title, A Princess of Mars.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Again, if you haven't seen the fan-made trailer for John Carter, it really highlights how incompetent Disney's marketing team is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BxeHQY1NuM&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BxeHQY1NuM&feature=player_embedded
I completely agree with this. Up just went off the tracks after storm hits. I can't even watch it again really, other than to admire the designs for a minute or two. Wall-E's humans are annoying as hell also.
Nemo is fine on the other hand, except for being aimed at a much younger audience. The score is great, maybe Pixar's best. Visuals were stunning at the time (aged a little in the complexity of their rigs), the emotional undertones are perfectly hit. It's pretty high for me, behind Toy Story, Ratatouille, and The Incredibles. Maybe tied with TS3.
:lol :lol :lol
If you see this at midnight at IMAX on opening night, they will be giving out these for free. Click it for more details.
That is a beautiful thing, why has this not been plastered everywhere?
Awesome trailer that was, aside from a few editing issues here and there.
Nizz
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Wow, now that was a great John Carter trailer. For people unfamiliar with the story, that trailer puts things in perspective. Unlike the trailers so far from Disney. They should hire whoever cut it.
Positive twitter impressions:
Steven Weintraub@colliderfrosty
JOHN CARTER is a great movie. For 2 hours I was transported to another time and place. Can't wait to see it again. Don't miss it.
Steven Weintraub@colliderfrosty
Also the effects were amazing. The action scenes inspiring. And the music was fantastic. Seriously....JOHN CARTER is not to be missed.
Drew McWeeny@DrewAtHitFix
I am no longer in danger of being killed for saying that I quite liked "John Carter". Full reviews are still embargoed, though.
Devin Faraci@devincf
JOHN CARTER Twitter embargo is lifted! I can say that I will be giving the film a Fresh review.
Devin Faraci@devincf
There are scenes in JOHN CARTER that are all-timers. Some brilliant work. But there are also a LOT of problems with the film.
Devin Faraci@devincf
Hopefully the internet will be able to put aside binary 'It sucks/It rocks' stuff and look at JOHN CARTER as a movie w/ good and bad aspects
Mike Ryan@mikeryan
I enjoyed John Carter more than I thought that I would enjoy John Carter.
Steven Weintraub@colliderfrosty
JOHN CARTER is a great movie. For 2 hours I was transported to another time and place. Can't wait to see it again. Don't miss it.
Steven Weintraub@colliderfrosty
Also the effects were amazing. The action scenes inspiring. And the music was fantastic. Seriously....JOHN CARTER is not to be missed.
Drew McWeeny@DrewAtHitFix
I am no longer in danger of being killed for saying that I quite liked "John Carter". Full reviews are still embargoed, though.
Devin Faraci@devincf
JOHN CARTER Twitter embargo is lifted! I can say that I will be giving the film a Fresh review.
Devin Faraci@devincf
There are scenes in JOHN CARTER that are all-timers. Some brilliant work. But there are also a LOT of problems with the film.
Devin Faraci@devincf
Hopefully the internet will be able to put aside binary 'It sucks/It rocks' stuff and look at JOHN CARTER as a movie w/ good and bad aspects
Mike Ryan@mikeryan
I enjoyed John Carter more than I thought that I would enjoy John Carter.
Expendable.
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Nice, all the online journos seems to be liking it!
I did.
Cars 2 is not a good movie but at least it was more entertaining than WALL-E.
Actually let me say this, the First 30 Minutes Of WALL-E are great. The other hour is terrible.
kame-sennin
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They marketed this movie so badly. The name "john carter" is dumb and the trailers looked like somebody literally edited together scenes from Prince of Persia and Attack of the Clones. They should have kept the Frazetta influence it makes the property look unique.
Yea, Frazetta's designs were the only thing that made me interested in the project (having not read the book), but I think I read somewhere that Stanton doesn't like Frazetta's designs. That's a fireable offense right there.
Eh. Still has shitty alien designs, glossy CGI, Tim Riggins' B-movie face and terrible hair, and a ton of cringeworthy dialogue.
ViewtifulJC
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There not aliens, they're super advanced mecha who just happen to look like aliens/deus ex machina because Spielberg didn't know how to end the film without Kubrick so he resorted to his his typical schmaltz finish!
SCULLIBUNDO
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I don't know what makes you look more stupid, the fact that you didn't pick up on his sarcasm or the fact that you think the ending wasn't Kubrick's original.
But let us not derail the thread any more.
The film will be worth it for Giacchino's score alone. From what I've listened to, it is his best work since Ratatouille.
Retroactively I'd agree, but I was only 11 when Monsters, Inc. came out and I'd be lying if I said I didn't love it at time of release.
Listen to your inner child; Monsters Inc is a fun flick.
ViewtifulJC
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lol, yeah ok
SCULLIBUNDO
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SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
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If the reviews keep high, I think I will indeed see this at midnight and it will mostly be just for that poster.
If the reviews keep high, I think I will indeed see this at midnight and it will mostly be just for that poster.
That seriously would have been a great PG-13 movie (I was going to say something about A.I., but that appears to be discussed already). Even the most depressing PIXAR movie of all time (Toy Story 3) couldn't pull off a theme of hopelessness.
However, Wall-E as a love story, a character study, & a kids' film about the influence the little guy has on man and machine was at least decent to me.
I do think the humans are the most annoying part but in the end they still play a pretty small role. The space dance with EVE and the little robot imitating his wave trumps almost everything in the beginning outside of art direction since they both explain the point of the story.
Anyway, not a Wall-E thread and still want to see JC. The latest twitters trump the bad ones. Looks like 2.5 - 3 stars which will be worth the price of matinee admission.
petethepanda
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Man, I really want that poster, but I really don't want to see this in 3D.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Exactly. I don't think the poster will be worth ruining the film with tacked on 3D.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Maaaaaaaan I hope one theater is playing regular Imax and the other is playing the 3d, otherwise I'm so boooooned. That poster is still worth it, imo and I am not as big into 3D as sculli. Bigger into dope posters, clearly.
They branched out when they did Cars 2.
That movie would have been great too if they hadn't shoehorned in the original characters. The spy parts was neat.
ViewtifulJC
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I secretly want this movie not to suck
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzxL2L9lFSs&feature=player_embedded#!
The music, Lynn Collins. If this clip is any indication, the film will be great.
The music, Lynn Collins. If this clip is any indication, the film will be great.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Nope! Won't watch clips! It's only just over two weeks away!
Ninja Scooter
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I've read that the reason Disney dropped the "of Mars" is because the only thing they had trademarked was the John Carter name, and I guess they were worried of B-movie companies latching on and releasing Warlord of Mars and Princess of Mars to try and steal their thunder. I guess I can understand that, but if true it's a dumb reason. Didn't hurt War of the Worlds.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Haha, that's the one I go to all the time. I can guess where you live now.
SCULLIBUNDO
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That would be a really dumb reason that I don't really believe. Disney can afford to buy the rights to the sequel names of a potential blockbuster franchise they're starting.
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