It's supposed to be somewhere between 4th and 1st quarter iirc, but given how liberal everyone's been this gen about umm... ****ing lying about release dates, I'd guess Fall 08.Kid Chameleon said:Was just thinking - has Sony given a release date yet?
PROVE IT! :hippotahrikmili said:Sorry but if I posted 640x360 side by side comparisons Halo 2007 and 2006 trailers would look identical as well. Stop comparing thumbnail sized images. It's graphically very nice but not up there with the 2005 trailer. Watch the two back to back and you'll know what I mean, the texture detail, animation, fire effects, particle effects and lighting are not comparable. It's pretty much the same stupid knee-jerk reaction to Motorstorm's unveiling - people arguing it looked even BETTER than the CG trailer. Sorry guys, no.
oh, man, you should have just used the "i own all the consoles" excuse. :lolFight for Freeform said:honest and objective analysis
yep... it's especially apparent in the hd on-stage video.nelsonroyale said:much closer than I expected...impressed
Chiggs said:But it certainly won't be the main focus for all of those years. Playstation 4, or whatever it's called, will be making you cream your jeans in half a decade's time.
And yet it's still got lighting beyond anythingkisakiproject said:The lighting fell behind target but otherwise its great.
Trax416 said:Killzone 2's graphics looked amazing. However that was it. The AI looked like AI i played against in Goldeneye. It showed nothing innovative. It showed the typical, machine gun/rocket launcher crap. The game play also looked extremely boring.
gibby said:You know, I heard about the controversy regarding the 05 trailer but I never had the chance to see it until earlier today. I never played Killzone on the PS2 and the first time I played a Killzone title was on my PSP.
Today was the first day I saw the Killzone 2 trailer which was done in-game. I was very impressed and I loved the look and the mood it created. However, when speaking with a good friend who is a 360 faithful, he was dissing me by calling me a PS3 fanboy because I work for Sony. He was more impressed with the Halo 3 trailer. My first comment to that was Sony doesn't pay me enough to defend the PS3 to the death. LOL! Besides, if I was such a big fanboy, why did I even bother to purchase a 360?
He then told me to check out the 05 trailer and asked me for my honest opinion. To him, the lies Sony fed people regarding that demo made him jaded against Sony. My reply to him afterwards was this:
In the 05 trailer, I see a studio that had to show a concept. It being early on in development, artists were given an estimated budget regarding polygons, textures, fx, etc. While art was busy creating assets for the game, code was also ramping up. However, on the code side, the engine wasn't progressing fast enough to be shown playable on the PS3. Because many assumptions were made as to what the PS3 can do, my guess is, they felt it would be alright to create a CG trailer and call it final because they really felt that the assets they made were shippable...hence the start of a little white lie that got way out of hand.
Developers do this all the time. Mocking up gameplay through CG renders and used as proof of concepts. For me, whenever I see a trailer for a system that hasn't been released yet, I always take it with a grain of salt.
However, although the 07 trailer didn't look as good, it came close and was more than enough to impress me.
In the end, I don't care which console gets which game. If I like what I see, I'll buy it.
dai said:oh, man, you should have just used the "i own all the consoles" excuse. :lol
MidgarBlowedUp said:In my opinion they just need to beef up the poly counts and add better hair. The fire isn't as transparent and soft as the trailer, for lack of better words, but other than that, they punched the target render of 05 in the nose. Matter of fact, why am I even in this thread, who ****ing cares about the CG footage anyway? This new realtime footage has made me forget about 2005.
Ether_Snake said:lol at the comparisons.
"Less guys with skirts" yeah more like "More enemy diversity".
"Less opened environments" more like "less matte painting, more actual geometry".
"No flashlight in CG trailer" :lol
"Not much blood in the CG trailer" :lol
And you are crazy if you think the lighting is nowhere close to the 05 trailer. And then you go and say "light and shadow looks great in RT demo" when it's obvious and you can't deny it (during the landing).
And yeah the rocket luncher was shown in the trailer.
"Warning, if you are easily offended by honest and objective analysis, please head over the KillZone 2 thread"
:lol
Yeah, Killzone 2 looks incredible, that's what I thought
dark10x said:It really does look shockingly close. I mean, we never expected them to completely match the CG as that would have been impossible...but they captured the look perfectly. The animation and motion blur in the realtime trailer is actually really impressive as well.
I'd say they have come MUCH closer to its CG unveiling than Motorstorm did and people were pleased with those results.
Core407 said:Sony has delivered. Naysayers be damned...
StranGER said:looks good , specially the backgrounds but the people just don't look the same to me.
Ether_Snake said:lol at the comparisons.
"No flashlight in CG trailer" :lol
"Not much blood in the CG trailer" :lol
Kaijima said:Okay, crazy PS3 fanboy comments -------> shoved aside:
The 05 trailer was CG. Get over it guys... the textures, smoke, fire, and particle effects in the CG trailer relatively blow away the current 07 game build (we're also seeing the effect of *gasp* diminishing returns - on the level of graphics we're at now, the differences between the trailers is in a way subtle, yet very critical.)
The real KZ2 right now looks like any contemporary, big budget FPS game. It doesn't look as magical as fanboy goggles see it, it just looks darn good.