Ninja Moomin
Banned
just as fucking ridiculous as the last one.
Why not just include it in the hardware revision ?
Why not just include it in the hardware revision ?
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kotaku: 3ds XL circle pad pro hands on: "comfortable, but not too big"
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Copy & pasted from above... Whether you personally feel whether the 3DS XL should have a second circle pad in its initial design is irrelevant. The decision not to include it by Nintendo was purely a business decision. And the correct business decision.
The network example doesn't make sense, I'll give you the Dualshock one although I think there's a big difference between controllers and handhelds. An XL with two pads would render 3DS useless in the eye of the consumers, leaving Nintendo with a bum product on the shelves which would probably force them to release another 3DS with two pads, which means spending a lot of money and leaving a lot of OG 3DS owners pissed, even if there's the option to get a frankenstick.
Of course I would prefer if the two pads were native in the XL, but I can see the logic behind it. To me, the huge mistake was made with the OG 3DS.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
I have the circlepad pro, but I'm disgusted by the lack of support... 
Lupin3
Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
Something like this!
funkystudent
Member
Why does this add on exist?
Was it just part of the deal to get Capcom to move MH from vita to 3DS so they didnt have to completely redo the controls?
It just seems like of dumb.
Was it just part of the deal to get Capcom to move MH from vita to 3DS so they didnt have to completely redo the controls?
It just seems like of dumb.
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and maybe Resident Evil: Revelaitons. That's about it.
comedy bomb
Banned
I think the eshop title Monster SHooter uses it too.
I got this a few weeks ago.
It's surprisingly not much wider compared to the original CPP.
I find the contour and ergonomics more comfortable vs the original CPP.
The indent/contour on the side not only makes reaching the ABXY buttons slightly easier, it also helps to make holding the 3DS XL with the CPP XL feel somewhat more balanced... less off center. To me holding a 3DS in the original CPP felt really off center.
To me it really seems like Nintendo put some effort into designing this, where as the original felt more like a rushed prototype or something.
I imported a Japanese one from AmiAmi. I used the cheapest shipping option and it was only a few dollars more compared to what I paid for the original at GameStop. I think it was around $27 total, but the exchange rate might have changed since November.
Yeah, I was surprised they covered the cartridge slot again too.
If the cartridge slot was uncovered I think I would just always keep the CPP XL on.
Of course I'm also the kind of person that has a big bulky comfort grip on ALL my handhelds.
It's my personal opinion that Nintendo never cared about adding a second analog to the 3DS, and still doesn't care. I think it was only made as part of the deal to get Monster Hunter and other Capcom games on the 3DS.
IMO Capcom wanted a second analog, not Nintendo. Just look at how many Capcom games support it vs how many Nintendo games support it.
It's surprisingly not much wider compared to the original CPP.
I find the contour and ergonomics more comfortable vs the original CPP.
The indent/contour on the side not only makes reaching the ABXY buttons slightly easier, it also helps to make holding the 3DS XL with the CPP XL feel somewhat more balanced... less off center. To me holding a 3DS in the original CPP felt really off center.
To me it really seems like Nintendo put some effort into designing this, where as the original felt more like a rushed prototype or something.
I imported a Japanese one from AmiAmi. I used the cheapest shipping option and it was only a few dollars more compared to what I paid for the original at GameStop. I think it was around $27 total, but the exchange rate might have changed since November.
Yeah, I was surprised they covered the cartridge slot again too.
If the cartridge slot was uncovered I think I would just always keep the CPP XL on.
Of course I'm also the kind of person that has a big bulky comfort grip on ALL my handhelds.
It's my personal opinion that Nintendo never cared about adding a second analog to the 3DS, and still doesn't care. I think it was only made as part of the deal to get Monster Hunter and other Capcom games on the 3DS.
IMO Capcom wanted a second analog, not Nintendo. Just look at how many Capcom games support it vs how many Nintendo games support it.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Huge oversight in my opinion... learned nothing from the psp forum complaints...
*chuckles*
It's not like there's many games that support it either...
SpikedGunner
Member
While I'm not going to complain about the XL not having the second circle pad to begin with, I am curious as to the reason why there has been no date (at least tentatively) announced for outside of Japan.
I feel it kind of alienates XL users (like myself) from having that gameplay option available for Revelaitons, Sneak Eater 3D, KI: Uprising, MH, etc...unless we want to forkover the $40+ importing it.
I feel it kind of alienates XL users (like myself) from having that gameplay option available for Revelaitons, Sneak Eater 3D, KI: Uprising, MH, etc...unless we want to forkover the $40+ importing it.
Blue Submarine No. 6
Member
Thx Phoenixus - guess I'll pick one up. I rather like the original CPP and I'm looking forward to getting this one for my new XL.Pretty sure it's region free. Imported a Japanese CPP and it works just fine on my Euro XL. Impressions writeup here for anyone who is curious.
They don't want to learn from their competitors. It's one of Nintendos biggest strengths but sometimes their biggest weakness. ASAIK they are afraid they might lose their creativity if they copy they competitors. But this paradigm prevents them from achieving greatness sometimes.
TemplaerDude
Member
Yep, I'm on board with this for Monster Hunter, and I'll finally be able to comfortably play Kid Icarus.
Currywurst
Member
I hope we get a good bundle over here. A CCP with a free copy of Resident Evil would be great.
But how I know NOE there isn't any bundle on its way.
But how I know NOE there isn't any bundle on its way.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Ordered the JP CPP from NCSX.com a few weeks ago t go with the XL. Feels ser comfortable to use. Can't wait for MoHun to release in the US.
Azure Dream
Member
After spending a few minutes trying to find a decent "Chicken or the Egg" picture, I'll just point out the obvious: of course devs don't widely support a feature restricted to a peripheral on limited sale and not heavily advertised.
It seemed like the CPP was designed as a stopgap for classic 3DS owners, for when the XL came around with an embedded second stick. (And assumingly some solution for the second set of shoulder buttons, which most people didn't specifically ask for in the first place.) After all, they said the size was the biggest issue holding back a second stick inclusion in the original 3DS.
But no, instead it seemed like something intended to shut up Capcom and Konami for a little while, but ultimately another thing Nintendo throws onto the market and promptly forgets about. I'm a little surprised they did actually follow through with an XL version.
goldenpp72
Member
You can't use this for most games though right? Can I play mario kart and such or only a few games?
Why would Mario Kart even need a second stick? To answer your question though it only works with a few games. The list was posted a bit earlier in this thread.
KirbYuuYuu
Member
The extremely low release (as in not everyone who preordered got one) not to mention the huge gap between shipping the things suggested otherwise.
IrishNinja
Member
it ain't pretty, but fortunately no games on my radar support it so far
Since I only play handhelds at home anyway, I'm sure I will like this.
The original circle pad pro made it much more comfortable to hold the 3DS in your hands as well, and I also bought the Hori grip for my Vita. It's not pretty, and it certainly doesn't make the devices more portable, but I like how it feels. No more numb fingers while playing.
The original circle pad pro made it much more comfortable to hold the 3DS in your hands as well, and I also bought the Hori grip for my Vita. It's not pretty, and it certainly doesn't make the devices more portable, but I like how it feels. No more numb fingers while playing.
Azure Dream
Member
Or it could have suggested it was a last-minute decision to make an accommodation for original 3DS owners, one they weren't initially prepared to do.
We know better now, of course.
KirbYuuYuu
Member
In Japan, but here? There was plenty of time. And we still had low stock with long waits from then till the next shipping.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I agree with this theory. I believe, it was made at Capcom's behest and Nintendo agreed to it, knowing that two MonHun games would be the ideal tonic for their then struggling handheld and stop the Vita gaining traction. (Hell, isn't Kid Icarus the only Nintendo first party game that supports it? Even then, it's only grudgingly used as a left-handed mode - you still can't play the game with dual sticks.)
Huh... so as a right-handed person, the Circle Pad Pro would be useless for Kid Icarus?
yep you're exactly right, and so far thats the only support Nintendo gave to the CPP.