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Kotaku Rumor: Microsoft 6 months behind in game production for X720 [Pastebin = Ban]
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I don't think Microsoft care enough about a power difference to completely scrap their plans at the last moment and repeat all the hardware mistakes of the Xbox 1.
I know it's a popular fantasy that Sony have completely blindsided them with the PS4 and Microsoft MUST be panicking to respond, but I do not buy it at all.
I know it's a popular fantasy that Sony have completely blindsided them with the PS4 and Microsoft MUST be panicking to respond, but I do not buy it at all.
ThisWreckage
Banned
I think Microsoft is going to go ahead with their plans full speed ahead. They're not going to be a reactionary because it is likely too late in the game even if they desired to be. I think the PS4 hardware did surprise them however. But to be honest, I don't think the RAM unveiling surprised them as much as Sony completely coming out of nowhere with a PS4 announcement. Not even the most diehard Playstation fans expected that. Hell, most people on GAF expected a 2014 launch for the PS4.
This is what I suggested in the reveal thread.
On evidence we actually have, I think Microsoft may not have originally planned a separate pre-E3 reveal at all. But they probably didn't expect Sony to have one either. They thought they could probably hog the E3 limelight.
But once Sony had an event, they realized they'd gave to too.
Or, like the 360 reveal only weeks before E3, they're doing the same thing again.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I don't mind eating crow from time to time, but I think a lot of you guys are gonna be quite surprised in a few days.....
Amazing. I laughed a good 5 minutes.
Insane Metal
Member
Officerrob
Banned
Copy and paste that article into pastebin while claiming to be some kind of "insider" and you have something as beliveable as all this other pastebin garbage
It was posted but it was behind a paywall at the time.
I don't know much about SemiAccurate but they seem to have a serious chip on their shoulder over Microsoft. The available part of the article reads more like fantasy than a well-argued piece.
Living up to their site's name?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I was wondering when our daily paste bin (the ultimate and legit source for this type of info) blurb would show up.
It's Charlie, so take the article with a grain of salt. However, does anyone have a login and can post the full article?
NoLootBoxDev
Member
Why?
Full real time ray tracing and global illumination at 1080p/60fps sounds plausible to you?
Did you write that?
Well there is ray tracing in Killzone 4! lol
Lol no
Uno Venova
Banned
Oh pastebin isn't banned yet
Gasoline, meet Fire.
At this point, I would take anything posted on pastebin with a spoonful of salt. Once the 21st hits and Microsoft reveals hardware plans, then we can go ahead and resume daily operation of posting anonymous pastebin stuff. Right now, it's a way to get utterly flamed by anyone who has any doubt in what Microsoft will do.
I agreed, Im new to the forum, but it didn't take that long to realize that.
Douche McBaggins The 3rd
Junior Member
LOL NOPE. You're killing me Sounds. Not Ever. Microsoft knows better than to get in a specs fight. Didn't help them with the original Xbox, and they know damn well that power doesn't mean shit after Nintendo punched them in the pussy with the Wii.
It's limited by distance and isn't fully applied to the scene. I know you understand that but I want to make sure no one takes that as evidence that pastebin may be true. It's also a 30fps game.
Dictator93
Member
except it is not real ray tracing,.... it is just screen space reflections done through ray marching. I hate that they used the word ray tracing...
la flama blanca
Banned
Lmao. Nope.
nhlducks35
Member
Killzone 4 uses ray tracing
no .from what i seen it use what every other game use...cube mapping with maybe a low LOW resolution ray traced map ...for the reflections to improve the scene
this is a REAL TIME PATH TRACED engine..that already could beused in videogames....check the difference between this and kz4
lolDictator93
Member
It is not ray tracing as is traditionally done. It uses a ray... but that is about it for similarities.
ray ban maybe
sorry i forget the link to the real time engine in the last post
http://youtu.be/VtLuStcTRXQ
I couldn't agree more.
Next Xbox is several times more powerful than PS4 - which is counter to all previous rumors and rumblings that had them pretty much even.
Everything is wrong. MS will stun the world come 21st of May. The world...gamers...journos....even developers with actual kits will be shocked.
Game over Sony. Game over.
lmao
olimpia84
Member
I believe this article. I don't have any evidence but my gut feeling tells me that MS had Durango in development with certain specs and when Sony came out and announced the PS4 with those 'high end' specs like the 8GB of ram, MS had to go back to the drawing board since their design is/was considerably weaker than those from the PS4. As a result of this, they probably had to scrap a few projects (software wise) and are behind schedule.
Doing a console from scratch is a process that takes a couple years at the very least.
Not when you have secret sauce
Not when your hardware was just bait to get your competitor to reveal their hand and then your reveal you true hardware.
Not when you can magically change tightly intrgrated custom hardware designs over night. ( just make it so ) and get developers up to speed in a jiffy.
The only restriction is your imagination.
Sneaky Microsoft had two designs ready all along.
Negative. 3 months. Tops.
What is going on with this post? Another insider "wink wink"?
It makes sense. If PS4's GPU went the weaker route, MS would be comfortable at 1.2TFLOPS.
So why not have another design as a plan B?
Maximilian E.
AKA MS-Evangelist
Wow these Pastebin texts are shit, making the wait to 21st even more hard. You just want everything to be over now, so that we don't need to have more of that crap.
Some of the previous rumours have gotten some explanation though:
16 cores CPU dev kits - 8 Jaguar + 8 I don't know what CPU in order to simulate the SHAPE block (audio block). It seems that Durango has quite the capable sound HW and 8 cores was needed to simulate that.
8Gb RAM - well, apparently 8Gb will be the minimum amount.
GPU - Has lots if similarities with the Bonaire GPU. If around 1ghz then it was quite close to the PS4 equivalent..
There were some interesting rumours that MS upped the CPU, that it was not just the same as for PS4 (or that was even jaguar cores)..
Anyways, it seems that the wait til the 21st will be long and most likely, filled with new pastebin stuff.. :/
Some of the previous rumours have gotten some explanation though:
16 cores CPU dev kits - 8 Jaguar + 8 I don't know what CPU in order to simulate the SHAPE block (audio block). It seems that Durango has quite the capable sound HW and 8 cores was needed to simulate that.
8Gb RAM - well, apparently 8Gb will be the minimum amount.
GPU - Has lots if similarities with the Bonaire GPU. If around 1ghz then it was quite close to the PS4 equivalent..
There were some interesting rumours that MS upped the CPU, that it was not just the same as for PS4 (or that was even jaguar cores)..
Anyways, it seems that the wait til the 21st will be long and most likely, filled with new pastebin stuff.. :/
Jesus, no. I'm just messing around with the quotee.
I know nothing. In fact I know less than nothing. If I even knew that I knew nothing that would be something, but I don't.
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