Ugh. Wouldn't that be like android soft keys?
How does that match with
This? If you have a persistent system area then you aren't really getting more screen.
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Latest iPhone 8 rumor says Apple cracked the code & got the fingerprint in the screen
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Ugh. Wouldn't that be like android soft keys?
How does that match with
This? If you have a persistent system area then you aren't really getting more screen.
Acidote
Member
Because that "persistent" area isn't really persistent. It's hidden while you're doing full screen stuff and only appears, in my case, when I slide the finger from the border into the screen. It ends up being more screen when it matters.
jts
...hate me...
It's insane when I put my iPhone 3GS perpendicular to my 6s+ and realise the 3GS's display height is basically the 6s+'s display width.
From that, you can imagine how TINY a 3.5" bezel-less iPhone would be. Basically like a credit card.
From that, you can imagine how TINY a 3.5" bezel-less iPhone would be. Basically like a credit card.
I'd be down for a 4" bezel-less iPhone, provided decent battery life.
BrokenIcarus
Member
Are we gonna get USBC?
Haha!
WorldofMiku
Banned
Lightning to USB-C (included in box), decent chance. (in fact, that cable is available already in the Apple Store).
USB-C to USB-C, no chance.
LumpOfCole
Member
When Apple replaces the Lightning lightning port, it will be to replace it with nothing. Apple will probably make the iPhone fully wireless by the end of 2020.
Right, but he has also been incorrect as well. Theres a chance the people he speaks with are simply getting a visual look at the device and saying theres no TouchID because they cant see it since its under the glass. The way rumors have been changing every few weeks its really silly for some folks to get worked up because in reality, we have no idea what theyre going to do. At least, not until true production starts (probably late this month or early next).
Edit: Im not saying hes definitely wrong, by the way. Just that theres a real possibility, particularly with how volatile the rumors have been. Im waiting until I see real components being leaked. If they DO get rid of TouchID, then I expect whatever tech they use will be just as reliable. I cant see them replacing it with some half-assed face recognition tech like the S8.
Also interesting to think about, if they bring this tech in and get rid of TouchID, will this make it easier for police to get into a phone?
Yes I know that sounds paranoid lol.
SprachBrooks
Member
Not a fan of removing TouchID altogether. It doesn't even make any sense either; how will you use Apple Pay? Considering its USP is entrenched in TouchID?
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Get ready to take a lot of selfies at the checkout line.
Seems like every week there's a new rumor about whether it's in the screen or not.
Really curious to see what they end up doing though, I would think Apple wouldn't put in a sensor that is worse/slower than the one they have now. It'd definitely be an interesting move for them to go from really pushing touchID to completely switching to a 3d recognition, unless they do a combo of both.
Really curious to see what they end up doing though, I would think Apple wouldn't put in a sensor that is worse/slower than the one they have now. It'd definitely be an interesting move for them to go from really pushing touchID to completely switching to a 3d recognition, unless they do a combo of both.
"At Apple we are always innovating, so when we were looking at TouchID, we said 'hey what if you didn't need to touch the device at all?' and that's how we invented a totally new technology that's never been seen before in any phone, welcome to iFace *spends 15 minutes trying to unlock the phone with his face live on stage*"
Vivalaraza
Member
I would rather have Touch ID than no bezels.
Basically you have a bunch of hopeful rumours then as the release date gets close the rumours become more and more the true reality of the product until you have a perfect picture of the phone before it's been actually revealed. Then restart the cycle again next year.
Frustrated_me
Member
I would eat my shorts if Apple removed Touch ID altogether. No way Apple removes one of their killer features just because an alternative solution is now supposedly built-in. I can see the Windows Hello type solution working for Apple but that will have to include Touch ID and not just IRIS scanning.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
If they remove it, you know it, or some other solution will be back in the next version, and we'll all be stuck with our "Gen 1" iPhone 8's.
I'm more disappointed in the rumor that RAM wasn't bumped up again, especially in the 4.7" model.
I want my phone to be my computer, and for that to happen, we need a modern amount of RAM and a shift in memory management.
I'm more disappointed in the rumor that RAM wasn't bumped up again, especially in the 4.7" model.
I want my phone to be my computer, and for that to happen, we need a modern amount of RAM and a shift in memory management.
Ninja Kn1ght
Member
The rumors do mention that it's designed to work while flat on a desk so hopefully that won't be an issue. I'd be pretty sad to lose TouchID but let's see what they've got with this facial scanning I guess.
Frustrated_me
Member
IOS is not ready to replace a computer as we know it today. Just isn't there yet. Also, it's too locked down.
UUUUUGH. I'm suffering through this 6+ and I would really like my next iPhone to have an upgrade in RAM. I know it is higher than the 6+ already, but I mean for the sake of making it future proof.
The 7+ has 3GB (3x your 6+) and nothing comes close to testing it. It's fine.
SprachBrooks
Member
Watch the cashier get pissy thinking I'm ignoring them trying to take a selfie to record the moment I pay for my goods lol.
only way I could see them removing Touch ID is if there was some showstopper wrt an edge to edge display. That being said, you'd likely be spending equal amounts or R&D getting either one working, so why not go with what all of your software is built for. Sounds like the touch sensor integrated into the display is a solved problem so swapping at this point seems dubious.
jts
...hate me...
By 2020 the iPhone can have a tier of 512GB or even 1TB of memory. Any device that can potentially handle that amount of data will still need a cabled data option by then.
Also I don't seem them ditching fast charging that they are just now introducing on iOS.
Make that 2030.
With Touch ID, there is an option to authenticate before you hold it to the POS terminal. (Done by double clicking the home button on the lock screen.) You could potentially do the same by pre-authenticating your face before placing your phone above the terminal. Not as convenient, but would solve the issue. I would imagine Apple would come up with something more graceful though.
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Nah. I thought (hoped) so too, but his reasoning was posted on Macrumors yesterday, and it's very well reasoned and technical:
Gemüsepizza
Member
Uh what? So he is only basing his theory on the display scanning tech not being ready? Is he aware that there are other ways to integrate a fingerprint scanner into the phone? For example into the power button or the side of the phone?
You could authenticate prior to tapping just like you can currently do with Touch ID. That's what I do because Touch ID fails a lot when my hands are sweaty and I don't want to look like an idiot trying to authenticate while the cashier waits. >_>
That said, it is a pretty terrible compromise so I wonder how they'll solve this if Touch ID is cut.
sleverfunk
Member
Maybe they would do it like sony. Fingerprint on the power button.
MadJackChurchill
Banned
Let's hope this works about 50x better than the current Touch ID, which is almost unusable.
If your TouchID is that bad, you need to talk to Apple. It has been essentially flawless for me since it was introduced.
Said no one ever.
Pagusas
Elden Member
...Touch ID is 99.9% perfect. Either your unit is busted or your fingers are all sorts of jacked up.
TouchID is probably gone. On the other hand, I expect the Face recognition feature to be super fast and almost flawless. Wherever you required TouchID before, you will be able to use that face recognition feature. Its a bummer for sure but the iPhone 8 will still break sales record, that bezel less design is terrific...
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Only time I have issues with TouchID is when I have done dishes or something and just washed my hands. About five minutes later everything is fine.
Outside of that, it works damn near perfectly. Of course, I have also put in multiple fingers at multiple angles for the sensor to find.
Freestyler
Member
This is my thinking too, especially after seeing one of the leaks with its power button that was twice the length of the iPhone 6/7 one.
pixelation
Member
I don't like the (rumoured) aspect ratio change...
It won't
Have to agree, because it's going to be both more expensive than any iPhone yet and may be supply constrained for months.
iPhone 7S/7S Plus/8 combined sales will still be massive though.
Id be shocked if it doesnt. New design after three years of the same. Newer fancier technology if the 3D face scanning is true, plus the rumored wireless charging. This thing is gonna sell bonkers amounts of units barring any manufacturing issues.
bodyofanamerican
Member
Which is what makes me so ambivalent about this news. Removing it would be insanity, but it works SO WELL now, like perfectly, any slight downgrade would be so noticeable. They're painted into a corner.
It's just speculation but when it comes to Apple I don't think a higher price will deter people from getting the fancy new bezel less OLED model. The design is visually striking enough that when it releases, it will THE phone to have, TouchID or not.
I'd be willing to bet that most people use monthly subsidized plans anyway, so even if its $1000, the price would only go up a few bucks on their plan.
Monthly payment plans are rarely if ever subsidized these days.
I do agree that for some it might not matter, but the down payment will be much higher especially for people with not stellar credit.
True enough, I forget that downpayments are even a thing since I've never had to pay one.