Do we, though? Nintendo (as far as I know) said to IGN that the dock's main function was charging, output to TV, and giving power to the Switch. Since charging and giving power are separated, I would say there is no evidence against extra power yet.
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Laura Dale: NX battery 3 hours max on dev kit, dock improves performance, touchscreen
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Do we, though? Nintendo (as far as I know) said to IGN that the dock's main function was charging, output to TV, and giving power to the Switch. Since charging and giving power are separated, I would say there is no evidence against extra power yet.
Ignoring that I feel utterly stupid for discussing something so totally offtopic(I'm sure you feel the same), yes, I do enjoy games.
No matter if its from Shin'en, or a exclusive like Monster Hunter(remember that series?) or a funded game like Bayonetta.
Yes, I like games.
You talked about multiplats in general.
Starchasing
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I see an usb type C connector in the bottom part of the Switch console
That usb port can do video output while charging the device. It also would allow for anyone to use a standard battery pack.
LordOfChaos
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I like how the lack of "me too" titles is considered a bad thing. I'm ok with not having the exact same games that are on other consoles.
It's funny how the "ideal" is having the exact same multi-platform games as the PS4 and Xbox, when for me the ideal would be to have new ip's from third parties.
If anything I hate how this gen more than any other, has more focus on multi-platform games than ever before. I wish each console had more exclusive games and differentiation between them.
And believe it or not but publishers don't share the same affection and blind loyalty to certain consoles that certain posters on this thread do. If the Switch sells well it will receive support. If it doesn't sell well it will be the Wii U all over again.
It's silly really, the times I do fire up the PS4, by the time I've decided what to play I just put Netflix or YouTube on lol. I don't seem to have the attention span or motivation to get stuck into a game the way I used to. I tend to favour pick up and play games for quick bursts nowadays more than ever.
It's funny how the "ideal" is having the exact same multi-platform games as the PS4 and Xbox, when for me the ideal would be to have new ip's from third parties.
If anything I hate how this gen more than any other, has more focus on multi-platform games than ever before. I wish each console had more exclusive games and differentiation between them.
And believe it or not but publishers don't share the same affection and blind loyalty to certain consoles that certain posters on this thread do. If the Switch sells well it will receive support. If it doesn't sell well it will be the Wii U all over again.
It's silly really, the times I do fire up the PS4, by the time I've decided what to play I just put Netflix or YouTube on lol. I don't seem to have the attention span or motivation to get stuck into a game the way I used to. I tend to favour pick up and play games for quick bursts nowadays more than ever.
This is the minimal thing. Anything less than that is probably lame, the dock would be totally pointless otherwise.
Probably not, but I don't think they want the experience to be that different docked and mobile. With higher res on the tv it would look similar to lower res on the smaller screen because the pixel density would remain more equal.
LordOfChaos
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In the last few months the only game I put decent progress into was Bloodborne at around 45 hours now, so I really do probably spend more time talking about games than playing them, lol.
Teuoxton
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Good eye!I see an usb type C connector in the bottom part of the Switch console
That usb port can do video output while charging the device. It also would allow for anyone to use a standard battery pack.
I see an usb type C connector in the bottom part of the Switch console
That usb port can do video output while charging the device. It also would allow for anyone to use a standard battery pack.
nice finding :O
CrazyHorse
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Just FYI, a much better image was posted in the reveal thread
Why is the dock so much bigger than the console? Why does it need to be so big? Fans?
TLZ
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We're all fanboys of something but the way you posted sounded snidey, i.e. rubbish, then fanboys.
Anyway.
Nice catch, hopefully they are using Type-C.I see an usb type C connector in the bottom part of the Switch console
That usb port can do video output while charging the device. It also would allow for anyone to use a standard battery pack.
Starchasing
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Thanks !!!
This thing shows up in another images but i can't figure it out what it is
Can anyone guess what it is?
I see an usb type C connector in the bottom part of the Switch console
That usb port can do video output while charging the device. It also would allow for anyone to use a standard battery pack.
So you can't charge the thing if you want to use its kickstand? That's a bit odd but I'd definitely take it because of USB-C. That's more important.
Probably the dock port. You could theoretically do everything through 1 type C port but I imagine they may have other concerns that might be addressed with something proprietary (zero-insertion force, high-speed bus for peripherals etc). It is close to the size of a full SD card, though I'd expect that to have a flap, the exposed port generally means it was designed for quick connections with something (the dock).
Starchasing
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Maybe the white thing is to be used when docking and the usbc to be used to charge elsewhere.
The main issue I have with this at the moment is that I might want to use a case with the screen... I'm gonna be playing more handheld in my bed than on the TV and even on the go, I'd like to keep it secure. That dock doesn't seem like it would fit the tablet in it with a case or protector.
A minor issue so far, we'll see how it shakes out.
A minor issue so far, we'll see how it shakes out.
Jon of the Wired
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I had just interpreted that as a sticker with a barcode on it. It could be some kind of connector, but it's hard to make out.
CrazyHorse
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Good point. I keep my Wii U in a case, so this will need a case too.
Starchasing
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It shows up in another pictures where it doesnt look like a bar code
DSi vs PSP screen shoot
Or like how the DSi XL all had IPS screens?
Oh, BTW, build quality isn't based on whether or not it "feels", build quality is based on durability. You can have an expensive "feeling" device, yet, the build quality could be crap (i.e. like when one drops an iPhone and crack the screen and I see a lot of crack screens on iphones vs 3DS in the wild).
Lightning_Roller
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I wonder if you can play with two people and two complete joy cons. I mean both pieces on each joy con grip accessory.
I don't see why not. The trailer shows people playing splatoon with the pro controller while using the handheld screen, so I'd say on that basis you're not limited to only using two joy con attachments (one L and one R) either attached or detached when handheld. If you can use a pro controller while handheld, chances are you can use another "complete" joycon controller too.
I think it's safe to assume there will be a million different controller choices. What will dictate controller choices will be more down to the individual games (and the developer choices) as opposed to limitations by Nintendo.
Just FYI, a much better image was posted in the reveal thread
That screen sticking out at the top end and the equivalent dimensioned space below the handheld is triggering my bookshelf OCD.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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Looks like a serial number
There is no way there is an external graphic card fitted in that dock that is then connected via USB C.
I get it that she was right on a few leaks, but she's not right on this.
Also not many people with gaming pcs would need to use an external graphics card, you would use the PCI-E slots on your motherboard and either sli or X-fire if you wanted to run more than one gpu.
Why is she trying to draw parallels with pc hardware and mobile hardware. This device is using an SoC not a dedicated GPU and CPU, and what is being suggested i.e an SoC and then an external GPU would just make things overly complex and expensive for very little gain.
It makes more sense to use a powerful SoC that will reduce the clock frequencies when the device is portable to reduce heat and promote better battery life.
Starchasing
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In another pics it looks like some type of connection
i'd keep an eye on japan. western support is going to likely be limited to whatever family games traditionally get made and maybe the usual superhuge stuff from actiblizzard and ubisoft - at least at first.
japan's a different story though. not only is the 3ds the piece of dedicated hardware over there, japanese companies have had a lot of experience with porting between handheld and home devices even with bigger power gaps between the ps4 and switch. see games made for the psp/ps3, psp/psv/ps3, psv/ps3/ps4, and now ps4/psv.
plus, going forward, there will probably be more of this scaling up and down as companies release other platforms that are more powerful than their original ones, but want to keep their userbase and not start from zero every time. sony's already requiring it of developers within their ps4 ecosystem.
Seriously this argument about charging stations aggravates me. They aren't as ubiquitous in advanced countries as people claim. Also like you said sometimes there aren't that many ports where it's provided or the ports are at inconvenient locations in order to control where people congregate.
I feel like they designed it that way on purpose so the top edge of the screen can show notifications when the Switch is in standby. Like how the Wii U Gamepad shows notifications when the Wii U is in standby. That would actually be really useful if you get messages from people on your friend list while its in stand by. You can see invites and that sort of thing before you even turn it on.
That's... the DS Lite unless I'm missing something.
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battery banks, if he on a plane, battery bank is useful, can fit in your pants pocket or bag
and he can just charge it while he playing when it get low, which will give him more than 10 hours of battery life, if he get the 30,000mah battery bank that I want, he could probably play for 15 to 20 hours
Lupin the Third
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Where in the video/promo shots does it? Can you show a screencap or tell us a timestamp?
I haven't been able to comment because of the obvious, so my first impression of the Switch so far is that it gives me WAY more hype than either the Wii U or Wii did. Generally speaking, it doesn't matter to me the power of the thing or even the battery life because i won't be using it off of the dock...
Just to know that Nintendo has now standardized a normal control scheme...shit, i'm tearing up.
Just to know that Nintendo has now standardized a normal control scheme...shit, i'm tearing up.
pls don't remind me fam ;_;
I have the Razer Blade Stealth hooked up to the Razer Core with an external graphics card. All of that is connected via USB Type-C. Maybe Nintendo is doing something similar? That doesn't explain how they can play the same games without the dock. Could be that the big N is lowering graphical output on the console/tablet itself when undocked to achieve their design.
My theory as well. Said it multiple times. Docked means the chips run at max frequency and portable means the chips underclock.
Dr. Buni
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I am fine with the dock improving performance as long as we aren't talking about a 3DS / New 3DS situation, where games run like ass on the 3DS and well on the N3DS. If the games don't run at stable 60 fps (or 30, depending on the game), I am out. If the dock improves performance as in making games look better, then that is perfectly fine, since they will be played on a big screen anyways.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Probably more for higher resolution (1080p) at home and lower resolution on the small screen.
Can confirm, I own a 3DS. So it's okay for me since mos games last 4 hours which is more than my laptop. I still hope there will be some improuvement till release.
LordOfChaos
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Emily Rodgers said active cooled, what I wonder is if the fan is in the tablet or the dock.
Maybe the dock is so fat because it has a fan in it, blowing air in the bottom vent of the Switch and up out the top. While mobile the seemingly large heatsink if it goes from top to bottom would provide decent passive transfer to air being open on both sides, and while docked the docks fan would let it run at full clock speeds.
If all that is right it's remarkably close to what I wanted and envisioned back when the NX was rumoured to be a tablet. A thickish tablet with a pass through heatsink that would be cooled on the dock.
Lord Azrael
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No idea if this has been addressed in any of the Switch threads, but is the only way to charge the unit via the dock? Or is there a separate AC adapter so that playing with the portable form factor while charging is still possible? Not sure if these are details that have been revealed yet.
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