Meus Renaissance
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Man dead after 'knife attack' in Woolwich
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Patois.
90TilInfinity
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Yeah. Hope the reports of it being related to Islam are false.
Obviously anecdotal, but pretty much all the Somalians I know here are pretty laid back religiously.
Come on...
Everything points to it being a terrorist attack and shouting "Allahu akbar" while chopping a dudes head off is a fairly strong giveaway that it's a political/religiously motivated terrorist attack.
They attacked a soldier outside his barracks.
They nearly(?) decapitated him.
They told people to film it.
They waited for and then attacked the police.
They reportedly shouted "Allahu akbar" while attacking the man.
90TilInfinity
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It's South, technically. Cross the ferry then you're in East London.
Cpt.Underpants
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Yep, they definitely know what they were doing
V
Vilix
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BBC = "Government is considering this an islamic terrorist attack"
I know I wouldn't trust people if they were allowed to carry guns on the street.
LanceVance
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Not saying it's not terrorism. Just don't think the media should report it as terrorism when there are a lot of unanswered questions around this, with some strange actions by the two who committed the attacks that don't fit in with other terrorist attacks.
zomgbbqftw
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"One witness, who declined to be named, tells Jasper Copping the attackers were "praying like it was a sacrifice" and "making people take videos"."
Definitely a terrorist attack.
Fuck those cunts. The government need to get serious about eradicating Islamic extremism and closing down madrassas and forcing Islamic people to integrate into society.
Definitely a terrorist attack.
Fuck those cunts. The government need to get serious about eradicating Islamic extremism and closing down madrassas and forcing Islamic people to integrate into society.
zomgbbqftw
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Not clicking that link.
It isn't really that bad. It's (presumably) one of the suspects, walking towards the camera with a small, bloodied cleaver in his hand.
Still, I don't know how sensitive you are to that kind of thing.
Not that bad, just a dude with his hands covered in blood holding a knife. Looks sub-Saharan African rather than Afghani, in case you're wondering.
Memento Mori
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ITV news just showed eyewitness camera phone footage of one of the murderers with hands covered in blood holding a blood covered knife and cleaver. It was spectacularly grim.
zomgbbqftw
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Shut down Islamic schools, shut down any kind of Sharia "community courts", force all Islamic immigrants to integrate into British society, forcibly break up ghettoes and deport radical preachers and tell Strasbourg to fuck off.
Somali?
I'll describe. Supposedly suspect, with bloody hands and a knife.
We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you, he is reported as saying.
Salutes.
cheststrongwell
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It was some Robocop shit, boya!
Wouldn't that needlessly escalate the tension even further?
Again, I never said they were not / could not be Islamic extremeist ...... you stated the UK were giving arms to those types of people in Syria (as if the rebels in Syria are all Islamic extremeists) and you are / were a dick for getting some joy from scoring points / making points from someones misery.
zomgbbqftw
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Combat it with hard policing. Honestly if some Islamic people don't want to abide by the rules of this country then they really can go to a country that has Sharia law. I very rarely use the "Go back to where you came from" line but Britain is a great country and if people can't appreciate it for what it is and keep trying to live like they are in some third world country with ideals that don't match with our own then why are they have no business in being here. I would rather that we invite people from other countries to come here who won't do this shit.
Islamic extremists who use violence to get their way have no place in British society.
Islamic ones but also any school which teaches kids that women are shit and non-Islamic people are animals don't have a place in our society.
I, as a non-Christian, went to a Church of England school and got a great education from the state. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
The more attacks happen, the more they will have to. There's only so long they can keep thier heads in the sand.
There is no way I would have gotten this close to a guy who just killed someone
If they were threatening you with the weapons in their hands then surely you would rather do as they say rather than be their next victim?
Absolutely disgusted by the whole thing.
timetokill
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Just brutal. Interested to see more legitimate information come out.
RustyNails
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Not just British society, but ANY society. Chop their balls off and throw them into lion cages.
BennBeckman
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Don't the vast majority of muslim people abide by the rules of this country? don't they have as much (if not more) distaste than the likes of you for for divisive maniacs like anjem choudhry? haven't a good number of attacks in the uk been foiled by intelligence from muslims?
i'm also curious to hear how "forced integration" would work.
Going to a country, and attempting to impose their will and customs on said country? This sounds familiar...
Again NSFW/NSFL
Supposed video of that picture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EROXP8JDG9M
Supposed video of that picture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EROXP8JDG9M
Meus Renaissance
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Absurd. I don't think you know what you're talking about, with respect.
Should we completely generalize the entire Muslim community in the UK due to the actions of some?
I'll ask again, wouldn't "hard policing", as you put it, closing down community courts, religious schools, further escalate the tension? Wouldn't that anger people who are actually moderate and aren't "radicalized"?
So you're saying just Islamic Schools?
How do we know for sure this is what they teach in these schools?
Those 'courts' I agree with getting rid of.
In spite of all his talk about the things happening in "our land", that's quite a strong British accent he has on him...
Oh, well, I guess we had it coming then.
There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.
-Henry David Thoreau
Islam is NOT to blame for this, this is Salafism.
zomgbbqftw
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Yes, they do. They wouldn't have a problem with these measures because most are integrated into our society. It's the extremists who call Jobseekers Allowance, Jihad Seekers Allowance that would have a problem and if they left the country then it would be a better place.
English lessons for all immigrants, an equivalency exam before granting citizenship, forcing the ghettoes apart, closing down radical Mosques that preach Sharia. No Islamic schools so that Muslim kids go to school with everyone. No special treatment.
Please don't start the colonialism argument in this thread. If you want to have that discussion make a different thread.
Yes, because our softly, softly approach clearly works.
Meus Renaissance
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The courts are completely arbitrary and deal with civili issues like divorce and financial disputes. The only legitimacy they have is for those who go to these meetings. An Imam could establish a "shariah court" in his living room using nothing but a sofa. The sole authority here is the word of these elders. What is there to shut down?
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