SOUL OF HALO, Stinkles.
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Marty O'Donnell Fired By Bungie
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SOUL OF HALO, Stinkles.
Dawnbuster
Member
Again, I'm not a lawyer. Was just pointing out that outside of a contract and under "at-will" it is apparently legal to be fired for political views. Sexist reasons, racist reasons, religious persecution reasons ... all different than canning someone for political views.
Though I'd assume it gets murky when political views intersect religious faith.
Have no idea if Marty was at-will, in fact I'd guess he was under a contract given his former stature at Bungie. Was just responding to the person who said it's illegal to fire someone for political views, where, to the best of my knowledge and under certain conditions, it can be legal to do so.
Treechopper
Member
To the people that are claiming Marty got too many awards I think they're missing the point. Bungie was really cool because it had many people that stood out in the company, not because they stood out. There wasn't just Jason or Marty. There was Jason Jones, Marty O' Donnell, Paul Russell, Paul Bertone, Joseph Staten, Frank O' Connor, Brian Jarrad, Matt Naguchi, Joe Tung, Luke Timmins, Luke Smith, Chris Carney, Jamie Griessemer, Marcus Lehto, Dave Dunn, Chris Butcher, and so on.
Some of those people are still there. Even for people leaving like Brian it's easier to accept because you have somebody fantastic like Urk that's been in a similar position for a while and the community likes him. Marty was one of those oustanding people and to be terminated (with or without cause) is a huge shock. Jay Weinland and C. Paul are still there but Michael Salvatori always composed with Marty. Will he do it without him?
With so many of the "old guard" gone without public recognition of the "new guard" it puts a dent in my enthusiasm for the game and the company. I was going to buy a PS4 for Destiny and day one the collector's edition. Now I'm going to wait for reviews and I might not even buy it until next year.
Some of those people are still there. Even for people leaving like Brian it's easier to accept because you have somebody fantastic like Urk that's been in a similar position for a while and the community likes him. Marty was one of those oustanding people and to be terminated (with or without cause) is a huge shock. Jay Weinland and C. Paul are still there but Michael Salvatori always composed with Marty. Will he do it without him?
With so many of the "old guard" gone without public recognition of the "new guard" it puts a dent in my enthusiasm for the game and the company. I was going to buy a PS4 for Destiny and day one the collector's edition. Now I'm going to wait for reviews and I might not even buy it until next year.
NullPointer
Member
A true classic for our times.I just rewatched that the other day on Netflix, still a great film
vasametropolis
Member
What is this shit!? He's a clear cut legend in the biz. Why would they can my favourite guy? I was going to buy Destiny just because of him.
Edit: I always thought it seemed odd to hold onto a composer when everyone else contracts out, but the guy has been there forever and was one of the best parts of the company. It was a special relationship and now it's nothing.
Edit: I always thought it seemed odd to hold onto a composer when everyone else contracts out, but the guy has been there forever and was one of the best parts of the company. It was a special relationship and now it's nothing.
Altered Juice
Member
that's right....edit that shit out...
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Still doing it at 343i. Shenanigans are your specialty Stinkles.
I'm kidding, don't ban me from Halo please.
Objectively Bad Opinion
Member
And now you wont?
vasametropolis
Member
I didn't know Joe Staten went back to MS as well. Halo is back
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lmao thats funny. Just buy the soundtrack then my dear. It would have saved you some money.
If you can't budget for the guy who's been with you since Myth and one of the most important guys/audio, and a key reason your games are so successful and remembered, what's the point then? How many other games, especially FPS even come close to the mindshare for soundtrack or themes that Halo did? The Halo theme has become iconic. Can you say the same for others? The audio and music of Halo was always universally loved, even people who hate Reach loved the music in game.
Plus it doesn't even make sense since Destiny is less than 5 months from launch. He's already been paid and did almost all the work. Now Bungie will benefit from his music and scores and whoever does Destiny 2 will probably just build off of it.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
still my fav game song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U75haMQBKk
goes so well with whats going on at time in game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U75haMQBKk
goes so well with whats going on at time in game
Probably not, no, unless something gets me hyped enough at e3 to drop 400$ on one.
I actually listen to the Halo soundtracks all the time while I'm studying, and Marty's music really strikes a cord with me.
Without a beautiful story + soundtrack, Halo would practically just be another FPS to me.. it's these things that make it something special. Now that he's been dropped by Bungie, as well as the delays, my hype for Destiny has really plummeted. Maybe it's just me, but I just can't get hyped for games very often anymore.
Will Music of the Spheres ever see the light of day now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNBJsx3WLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNBJsx3WLs
NullPointer
Member
I've grown to truly love Winter Contingency.
I couldn't tell you how many times I watched and rewatched the Halo Reach Battle Begins trailer.
You do realize that the music is probably done since the game is around 5 months away, right?
SirNinja
Member
First of all, the budget may or may not actually have anything to do with any of this. Second: if you want to cut something in the budget, you don't cut the one guy who made Halo truly iconic.
SpartanN92
Banned
Chord
ElzarTheBam
Member
If this leads to more people checking out the ODST OST...
Go do it people.
Go do it people.
He probably was honest with Bungie and said that Destiny was just a generic FPS.
FunkyPajamas
Member
Don't quote your alts, it's too obvious.
PachinkoChampBruh
Member
Can I borrow your time machine?
Schmitty
Member
I totally forgot about that tour! That video was hilarious how they always referred to Halo 3 as their next project. Frankie's
stinkles
HiredN00bs
Member
I am unfamiliar with Abrahamsen, Gough, and Russell. But some awesome Grizzled Ancients definitely had to have voted for this, at least for a majority decision.
Royalty negotiations are a great piece of speculation. It also explains why Music of the Spheres was supposed to be released a while ago and has yet to see the light of day.
When did Robt leave? Lorraine still works there, right?
Understandable. Although he might feel similarly about Activision as well if he's been in a constant battle over royalties.
The in-house composer comments make sense generally, but Bungie had TWO in-house composers, having hired Salvatori a year or so ago. Marty and Mike have been working partners for a long time. Will Mike leave too? Is he already gone?
I doubt it, I remember him being pretty negative about microsoft.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
He will make the soundtrack for Asphalt 9 on iOS/Android.
Monocle
Member
;_;
Marty probably was.
From the time I saw his presentation at Northwestern back in Spring 2006 (before E3), Joe Staten passively disagreed with some of Microsoft's decisions. My memory might be fuzzy, but I specifically remembered on pressing Halo 2 on why it was PC + Vista only to him was that was Microsoft's decision to do that.
Pretty much everyone at Bungie hated Microsoft then and hence why they wanted to break away ASAP. They made a final Halo games agreement, and Microsoft branched off Bungie while forming 343i.
Now, things may have changed. Joe is now back at Microsoft for some reason.
SpartanN92
Banned
Well the MS of the past 8 months or so is drastically different than the one from before.
Hopefully the new leadership continues on it's new path and doesn't revert to old ways.
Hopefully the new leadership continues on it's new path and doesn't revert to old ways.
Save 'N Quit
Banned
Hope he lands somewhere sweet.
Him and David Wise are part of my favorite composers.
Him and David Wise are part of my favorite composers.
Green and Blue is a very poor song. To Galaxy is unfocused. Requiem...does it even have a theme?
117 is the only good track, and it's a fantastic track at that! Definitely. But um... yeah, the only one, and Davidge didn't even do that one.
It's a poorly done song.
A fantastic idea, certainly, but Davidge does a very poor job of executing it. It isn't structured at all, disobeys rules of time signature, etc. It's just a poorly done song.
Far from "masterpiece" as some people have been saying.
NullPointer
Member
I always saw Revival as the theme, with 117 being the most memorable track overall.
Mr. Bamboo
Member
Well that's upsetting. His music is one of the main reasons why I look back fondly on the Halo series. I still have the ODST soundtrack in my car... I like to play it on rainy days .
I trust he won't be out of the industry for too long. Surely someone will quickly hire him.
. I trust he won't be out of the industry for too long. Surely someone will quickly hire him.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Frankie, wasn't there some kind of issue where 343 could not use classic Halo songs because Marty had composer rights or something?
...It's the 14th track.
Do you mean Arrival? That's the other one that has a pretty distinct, decently executed them other than 117.
This is the problem, though. Halo has always had an instantly identifiable theme song. Halo 4 completely got rid of that, and no one track from it really spoke out as a true new theme song.
I've said it since it was first released: compared to any other Halo game, Halo 4's score has absolutely no identity.