Dark FaZe said:All I need is Ash by my side.
Garrus can come too.
I need.....
cept for Kaiden.
Dark FaZe said:All I need is Ash by my side.
Garrus can come too.
Grisby said:I need.....
cept for Kaiden.
Yep. EasiestGrisby said:cept for Kaiden.
epmode said:Yep. Easiest* in a Bioware game.life-or-death decision
*ME1
Dice said:No series of any medium ever has a good story unless it is all planned from the beginning. Mass Effect is following the typical unplanned trilogy format.
Part 1: Do something interesting
Part 2: Make it better in every way except story, replacing plot fundamentals with irrelevant reasons to fight a lot and introducing a lot of pointless characters.
Part 3: Try way too hard to make it a bombastic superending, forgetting the subtlety that encapsulates what fans love most about the series.
You know it will happen. I'm sure it will be fun, and it will be stylish, but overall everyone will feel like it got too "noisy" and the ending too obvious. The first will be known for best story, the second for best gameplay, and the third for trying too hard and not being very clever.
Grisby said:
Samara said:Cerberus working with the Reapers??? How does this advance humanity, TIM, how? What, he somehow kept the reaper baby?
Keep Kaidan if you don't want that Cerberus bitch around. Guess it's pretty obvious Morinth/Samara or Thane aren't coming back.
Monocle said:You know, I'm kind of hoping for a real clit-punching ball-twisting mindstomp of an ending where the Reapers turn out to be benevolent guardians or something of the sort and goody-two-Shep ends up screwing over the entire galaxy. I find it difficult to imagine a more conventional conclusion that would be as satisfying as that, given how Bioware seems to have written themselves into a very boring corner.
HK-47 said:They would never undermine their power fantasy.
Dany M said:nah, that space racist had it coming
Snuggler said:My only regret about killing Carth in ME1 is that we might be able to kill him in an even cooler way in ME3.
There's also the possibility Wrex didnt score well in their bro-centered focus tests, explaining the default state of me2 as an effort to wipe the character.Nirolak said:I'm guessing that their stat tracking metrics found out that a whole lot of Wrexes died, and that since Wrex was dead in the default ME2 game, a whole lot more Wrexes are dead as well.
Mordin was also a surprisingly fragile character in ME2's ending, and he notably hasn't been confirmed for ME3 as a full time squad member.
WanderingWind said:Who wrote Mordin? Give that dude a promotion
edgefusion said:Maybe from a straight perspective but there are barely any gay characters represented in games. If the character talks and isn't completely flaming then it's a step up from what we get now. I'd rather have an embarrassing gay relationship in ME3 than to be shunned entirely.
Bitmap Frogs said:There's also the possibility Wrex didnt score well in their bro-centered focus tests, explaining the default state of me2 as an effort to wipe the character.
Mordin and Wrex would have made such a great squad =/
HK-47 said:Yeah if you wanted them to shoot each other 10 hours in lol.
Confidence Man said:Aww sick I can Charge into their front lines and then use Shockwave to blast every...
HK-47 said:Mordin, Tali and Garrus in 2 were written by the same guy.
HK-47 said:why you are basically forced into them if you choose paragon options.
Ickman3400 said:There is no room for interpretation for a statement like "They are working with the Reapers". There's no taking that out of context. Only TIM has to be indoctrinated for all of Cerberus to follow since they take orders from him, and we know that he is indoctrinated to some degree due to the laughably awful comic book series.
People should stop defending awful writing. I had to listen to the same "you don't know how it'll be" stuff before ME2 came out.
HK-47 said:Mordin, Tali and Garrus in 2 were written by the same guy.
They aren't even close, nor do they do the same thing. Anti-Spirals were probably human like beings who gave up their own identity in order to stop the rise of their power as they thought it would eventually destroy the world. So in their judgment they think they should limit the capabilities of other species in the universe, but not exactly exterminateing them, well until they have a problem.shadyspace said:Not to mention the Reapers are enough of a rip-off of the Anti-Spirals as it is.
Rahxephon91 said:They aren't even close, nor do they do the same thing. Anti-Spirals were probably human like beings who gave up their own identity in order to stop the rise of their power as they thought it would eventually destroy the world. So in their judgment they think they should limit the capabilities of other species in the universe, but not exactly exterminateing them, well until they have a problem.
That's nothing like whatever the machine beings of ME are. They aren't a rip off of them.
shadyspace said:The Reapers do the same thing: galactic civilization reaches a point until they deem it needs to be culled. They also don't kill off less developed species (i.e. humanity as it stands now would be spared). Whether or not the Reapers are somewhat benevolent in their reasoning behind the destruction cycle is irrelevant. They're similar enough to there being merit in pointing it out.
Jerk said:They really are not.
The reapers have far more in common with any number of machine armies/Deep Space abominations/aliens than anything in GL.
The reapers are manipulative beings who encourage races to evolve so they can keep their cycle on a constant basis. Anti-Spirals don't do that at all and aren't actively trying to cull civilizations. Just keep them at non threatening levels. That's a pretty big difference and it's not like these ideas haven't existed before either Gurren Lagann or Mass Effect.shadyspace said:The Reapers do the same thing: galactic civilization reaches a point until they deem it needs to be culled. They also don't kill off less developed species (i.e. humanity as it stands now would be spared). Whether or not the Reapers are somewhat benevolent in their reasoning behind the destruction cycle is irrelevant. They're similar enough to there being merit in pointing it out.
Rahxephon91 said:They aren't even close, nor do they do the same thing. Anti-Spirals were probably human like beings who gave up their own identity in order to stop the rise of their power as they thought it would eventually destroy the world. So in their judgment they think they should limit the capabilities of other species in the universe, but not exactly exterminateing them, well until they have a problem.
That's nothing like whatever the machine beings of ME are. They aren't a rip off of them.
Rahxephon91 said:The reapers are manipulative beings who encourage races to evolve so they can keep their cycle on a constant basis. Anti-Spirals don't do that at all and aren't actively trying to cull civilizations. Just keep them at non threatening levels. That's a pretty big difference and it's not like these ideas haven't existed before either Gurren Lagann or Mass Effect.
And while your obviously joking, I doubt Bioware had time to see Gurren Lagann before putting Mass Effect out.
Vamphuntr said:-Hi, I'm Miranda. I'm jealous the Illusive man invested so much money on you.
- I would have implanted something in your brain to force you to help us and be loyal to cerberus
- CERBERUS IS A-M-A-Z-I-N-G <3 <3
-Shepard I love you, Cerberus sucks, K thanks bye.
Snuggler said:My only regret about killing Carth in ME1 is that we might be able to kill him in an even cooler way in ME3.
shadyspace said:The Reapers do the same thing: galactic civilization reaches a point until they deem it needs to be culled. They also don't kill off less developed species (i.e. humanity as it stands now would be spared). Whether or not the Reapers are somewhat benevolent in their reasoning behind the destruction cycle is irrelevant. They're similar enough to there being merit in pointing it out.
He's definitely working on it: http://twitter.com/#!/patsquinadeJerk said:This does not surprise me. At all.
I hope the same writer comes back...
Lostconfused said:Really though I don't think there could have been any better news about ME3 than this whole Cerberus working with Reapers business.
Its brilliant how they managed to baffle and alienate people who played ME1 by forcing Shepard to work with Cerberus and now they are doing the same thing to the people who played ME2.
I don't think I have ever experience schadenfreude on such a scale, its great. Oh and all the posts are fun to read too.
Wait, wait, wait... you're saying my ME3 experience is likely conditioned by the fact that most of the people who played the first two games are bad at selecting blue text when it appears?Nirolak said:I'm guessing that their stat tracking metrics found out that a whole lot of Wrexes died, and that since Wrex was dead in the default ME2 game, a whole lot more Wrexes are dead as well.
Thagomizer said:See, he was supposed to be this mysterious, menacing character, constantly pulling the strings and manipulating Shepard along the way.
The problem is that that characterization didn't last past the opening cutscene.
From the instant Shepard met with TIM, I always had the impression that Shepard had TIM by the balls, not the other way around. Every attempt by TIM to either intimidate Shepard, reel him in, or trick him into doing what he wanted seemed amateurish, petty, or just didn't work. The game wanted to think that he was this ultra-brilliant chessmaster, but the game failed spectacularly in making the player agree with the game's backstory, just because TIM unintentionally comes across as incompetent.
Only if the script for Garrus goes beyond his 1 "Can it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some calibrations" line.Jerk said:This does not surprise me. At all.
I hope the same writer comes back...
Well, if you're going to put it that way... the Eternal Ones from Star Control Thr*urgh* <lost the will to type the rest of it, must post image instead>shadyspace said:Not to mention the Reapers are enough of a rip-off of the Anti-Spirals as it is.
Zero-Crescent said:Well, if you're going to put it that way... the Eternal Ones from Star Control Thr*urgh* <lost the will to type the rest of it, must post image instead>
A few others could qualify: the Nomads from Freelancer and the Shivans from Freespace. I'm a bit surprised that there isn't a TVTropes page for "Unstoppable xenocidal species from beyond the stars" (Big Bad and Eldritch Abomination are the closest), as there must be something that came before the Eternal Ones from the sequel that must not be named.
The Inhibitors in Alastair Reynold's Revelation Space / Redemption Ark / Absolution Gap trilogy. Which predates both ME1 and Gurren Lagann by a decade or so.shadyspace said:Name one other "deep space abombination" that systematically comes in to destroy galactic civilization, sets the clock back to relative zero, leaves undeveloped civs. intact, and departs.
Foil said:You guys are going to be really mad when they reveal that the Reapers are actually working for the Keepers.
Dun, dun, dunnnnn!
Turns out that Reapers are just misanthropes. At the end of Mass Effect 3 the Reapers confront Shepard and say that how his courageousness and altruism convinced them not to destroy the galaxy.Foil said:You guys are going to be really mad when they reveal that the Reapers are actually working for the Keepers.
Dun, dun, dunnnnn!
Durante said:The Inhibitors in Alastair Reynold's Revelation Space / Redemption Ark / Absolution Gap trilogy. Which predates both ME1 and Gurren Lagann by a decade or so.
(And that's just the first example that came to my mind)
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Damn those deaf mutes!