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Media Create Sales 2/4 - 2/10

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AniHawk

Member
Reservation numbers time from The Store.

Not sure how many more of these you guys are going to see.

1. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
2. Grand Theft Auto IV
3. God of War Chains of Olympus
4. Star Wars the Force Unleashed
5. Mario Kart Wii

NDS:
Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword: 8
Apollo Justice Ace Attorney: 5
Harvest Moon: Island of Happiness: 5
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates: 4

PSP:
God of War Chains of Olympus: 58 (dogs and cats, living together)
FFVII Crisis Core: 12
Patapon: 2
Wild ARMs XF: 2

360:
Halo Wars: 28
Ninja Gaiden 2: 15
Too Human: 5
Soul Calibur IV: 1

Wii:
Super Smash Bros. Brawl: 320
Mario Kart: 30
Harvest Moon: 4
Dragon Quest Swords: 3

PS3:
Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots: 9
Killzone 2: 8
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: 4
LittleBigPlanet: 3
Resistance 2: Faller of Manner: 1

PS2:
Ratchet & Clank Size Matters: 4
Metal Gear Solid Essentials: 3
Silent Hill Origins: 2
Singstar 90s: 2
Baroque: 1

PC:
WoW Wrath of the Lich King: 14
Starcraft 2: 11
Spore: 3

Multiplatform:
Grand Theft Auto IV: 116 (80 360, 36 PS3)
Star Wars the Force Unleashed: 49 (31 360, 15 PS3, 3 Wii)
Mercenaries 2: 18 (12 PS2, 6 360)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2: 13 (10 360, 3 PS3)
Ghostbusters: 6 (2 360, 2 Wii, 1 PS3, 1 PS2)
LEGO Indiana Jones: 3 (1 Wii, 1 PSP, 1 PS3)
 
C

Chris Michael

Banned
Thanks for the report, Vinnk.

Vinnk said:
3. PSP would be in a fairly close second. Stores have almost as many of them as DS. And they are starting to get much more prominent store positioning. Both Wanpaku and Book-net have moved the units to the front of the store.
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Why is this exactly?
 
vanguardian1

vanguardian1

poor, homeless and tasteless
HK-47 said:
Fantastic response. I obviously cant refute a fucking smiley face so lets consider this little skip down retard alley finished
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Innotech is laughing because you seem to be oblivious to the obvious. ;)
 
V

Vinnk

Member
Chris Michael said:
Why is this exactly?
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I would assume because PSP is a hot item right now. And they are probably getting ready for the new Monster Hunter game. Just guesses though.
 
A

apujanata

Member
AniHawk said:
Reservation numbers time from The Store.

Not sure how many more of these you guys are going to see.

1. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (320)
2. Grand Theft Auto IV: 116 (80 360, 36 PS3)
3. God of War Chains of Olympus (58)
4. Star Wars the Force Unleashed: 49 (31 360, 15 PS3, 3 Wii)
5. Mario Kart Wii (30)

Multiplatform:
Mercenaries 2: 18 (12 PS2, 6 360)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2: 13 (10 360, 3 PS3)
Ghostbusters: 6 (2 360, 2 Wii, 1 PS3, 1 PS2)
LEGO Indiana Jones: 3 (1 Wii, 1 PSP, 1 PS3)
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What was the preorder of Halo 3 in your store ? Around 500 ?
It seems that SSBB pre-order is underperforming my expectation (350-400), but since it is only slightly (10%), it is ok.

Is the GTA IV preorder only opened recently ?
Wow at the GOW : CoO preorder. Mini sex QTE (game) might be helping this (especially on PSP)
 
A

apujanata

Member
Hcoregamer00 said:
I have no more faith in humanity.
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What else can you expect ? The series have a new person, Apollo, instead of Phoenix Wright. How can you expect people to pre-order in droves for this ? I think most people will "wait and see", or just do impulse buying.
 
Z

Zen

Banned
Disappointing PS3 sales tbh. I was hoping that they'd be in the 30k range. 23k is quite a drop out of nowhere, especially with it being the second week of DMC4.
 
A

AniHawk

Member
apujanata said:
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What else can you expect ? The series have a new person, Apollo, instead of Phoenix Wright. How can you expect people to pre-order in droves for this ? I think most people will "wait and see", or just do impulse buying.
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Actually, it's right in line with the series. We only had 5 for Trials and Tribulations.
 
A

AniHawk

Member
apujanata said:
What was the preorder of Halo 3 in your store ? Around 500 ?
It seems that SSBB pre-order is underperforming my expectation (350-400), but since it is only slightly (10%), it is ok.

Is the GTA IV preorder only opened recently ?
Wow at the GOW : CoO preorder. Mini sex QTE (game) might be helping this (especially on PSP)
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The last count I had for Halo 3 was 508. It's the most there ever was for any game in the store. SSBB will make it to the 350-400 mark before it's released.

GTA IV's been going on for a long time now, since it was originally scheduled for October 2007.

GOW on the PSP is so huge because of the demo. Customers like getting "free" stuff.
 
K

kenta

Has no PEINS
Man ever since the PSP launched I've had this feeling that the PS3 would follow right in its exact same footsteps and, barring piracy, it has so far. The use of the XMB, the frequent updates with useful features being added, controversial media format, initial failure in the marketplace, very poor image problem, very poor software sales, great games that nobody seems to notice or care about, the list goes on and on. However, if the current PSP revival is any indication of what to expect from the PS3 down the line, I'll be a very happy gamer
 
S

Stormbringer

Member
Thanks Vinnk. I think it's not really a surprise that the otakus and the typical japanese Winning Eleven fan don't see much interest in this very unique and late Wii version...
But on the other hand, if there is one demographic that I think could possibly make this game a relative success, it seems to me like it would be the the football fan, who doesn't normally buy the traditional football games, and at the same time isn't totally averse to the concept of gaming, or even preferably IS already a gamer.
It's just a theory, but I believe that if the game manages to catch the attention of the type of potential buyer that matches these criteria, then I think we could have something interesting here...
However, as for whether or not they will market the game that way or be met with success...I guess we will know that very soon.

By the way, seems like there is a rumour floating around that states that the game's first shipment will total 80k...If confirmed, that would be rather conservative from Konami, wouldn't it ?
 
B

BishopLamont

Banned
HK-47 said:
No they are not. First off, many of those franchises are going to be the first of thier kind of the PS3, which is different than the BT series which already has 2 iterations on the DS. MGS4 will more fresh and new than BT 3

Second they target different people. Many of the people buying BT are very casual, and would probably not see a reason to get BT 3 since they already have BT 1 or 2. There is no hardcore fanbase, no storyline to continue, so there is not much pull for people to come back. Why do you think Nintendo has been reluctant to make Wii Sports 2? Where is Nintendogs 2?
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I was going to reply to your first post but anyways. BT 3 giving diminished returns is really misleading, considering the budget and how much it sells and already has sold (the series), they'll still be making a shit load of money. No hardcore casual fanbase? Dude have you seen BT 2 first week numbers? Performing well above most so called core-games. Wii =! DS, Nintendogs 2 could be coming for all we know, or Nintencats.

Edit: I don't have much faith for WE Wii after Vinnk's report..
 
Y

Ydahs

Member
AniHawk said:
Wii:
Super Smash Bros. Brawl: 320
Mario Kart: 30
Harvest Moon: 4
Dragon Quest Swords: 3
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320?! Woah!

I'm surprised to see Mario Kart already up to 30. Has it been given a release date?
 
V

Vinnk

Member
Stormbringer said:
By the way, seems like there is a rumour floating around that states that the game's first shipment will total 80k...If confirmed, that would be rather conservative from Konami, wouldn't it ?
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I don't know. If I were Konami that's about what I'd release. After seeing Dewy tank hardcore, they must be a bit shellshocked. Frankly, this late in the year, 80K would be pretty good for a soccer game on any platform (when WE PSP sold around that number it was big news). If Konami can sell all of that first shipment and the system is enjoyed by the gamers who buy it's an accomplishment. Then next year Konami can ship the Wii version at the same time as the other consoles and possibly do some good sales.

This late in the year with a brand new control system, expecting it to sell more than 80k in the first week seems a tad unrealistic.

Still if the system is as great as everyone says it is, this title could have quite long legs. It depends how open casual sports gamers are to a rather complex system.
 
M

Mithos Yggdrasill

Banned
Ezduo said:
Wow, the PSP outsold the DS again? What's going on exactly?
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Simply the DS has almost reached the saturation point (at 21 millions). With this price, sales cannot go up without a price cut and maybe a bundle with Dragon Quest IX.

PSP is selling not because of its games (only 4 games in the entire top 50).
 
S

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
If the DS sells 65k per week every week in the year, it will have sold 3.38 million over the year. In other words, as much as the PS2 sold per year close to its prime. Now, it might be the case that the "lost" sales could be made up with a small price cut and that this will end up being more economical than leaving the price where it is, but they're certainly not "in need" of a price cut.
 
S

Stormbringer

Member
Vinnk said:
I don't know. If I were Konami that's about what I'd release. After seeing Dewy tank hardcore, they must be a bit shellshocked. Frankly, this late in the year, 80K would be pretty good for a soccer game on any platform (when WE PSP sold around that number it was big news). If Konami can sell all of that first shipment and the system is enjoyed by the gamers who buy it's an accomplishment. Then next year Konami can ship the Wii version at the same time as the other consoles and possibly do some good sales.

This late in the year with a brand new control system, expecting it to sell more than 80k in the first week seems a tad unrealistic.
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For some reason I was expecting Konami to put out an unreasonably high shipment (in any case, too high compared to my own expectations), which is probably why this rumoured number struck me as surprisingly conservative. But as you put it, it seems like they indeed found a fairly reasonable middle ground... Obviously, we will get to see if this number was that reasonable in the end, but it's true that considering how desperately low my expectations for this game's japanese sales are, I can say that I have no problem agreeing with you when you say that the sole fact of selling out this first shipment would be an accomplishment by itself.
Still if the system is as great as everyone says it is, this title could have quite long legs. It depends how open casual sports gamers are to a rather complex system.
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Indeed, and this is probably when the efforts of the production team to make this game completely accessible despite the entirely new control scheme would start to show. And obviously, we will also get to evaluate the efficiency of the marketing team's efforts to spread the word that the game is more accessible and less complex than it seems.
 
T

tanod

when is my burrito
ComputerNerd said:
How about the
Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots: 9

?
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No solid release date/month/season compounded with some people thinking it's not coming out until Fall.
 
K

Kenka

Member
bcn-ron said:
Most Wii traditional-gamey-gamers own an HD console, too, confirmed?
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LucasArts has been very quiet concerning the Wii version. But in the end you can be sure it will be the most appealing to the mass market. Waggle ftw.
 
K

Kurosaki Ichigo

Member
Famitsu January Top50 (December 31, 2007 to January 27, 2008)
http://www.elspa.com/?i=7254
Code: 
Wii Fit
1 	Wii 	Nintendo 	12/1/07 	391,134
Mario Party DS
2 	DS 	Nintendo 	11/8/07 	324,450
Wii Sports
3 	Wii 	Nintendo 	12/2/06 	227,142
Wii Play
4 	Wii 	Nintendo 	12/2/06 	162,473
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
5 	DS 	Nintendo 	1/17/08 	144,652
Final Fantasy IV
6 	DS 	SQUARE ENIX 	12/20/07 	117,808
Mario Kart DS
7 	DS 	Nintendo 	12/8/05 	113,659
Layton Kyoju to Akuma no Hako
8 	DS 	LEVEL-5 	11/29/07 	111,456
Mario Party 8
9 	Wii 	Nintendo 	7/26/07 	109,066
Super Mario Galaxy
10 	Wii 	Nintendo 	11/1/07 	105,333
Dragon Quest IV: Michibikareshi Monotachi
11 	DS 	SQUARE ENIX 	11/22/07 	104,978
Monster Hunter Portable 2nd
12 	PSP 	CAPCOM 	 	2/22/07 	94,263
Rune Factory 2
13 	DS 	Marvelous  	1/3/08 	 	88,730
New Super Mario Bros.
14 	DS 	Nintendo 	5/25/06 	73,678
Star Ocean: The First Departure
15 	PSP 	SQUARE ENIX 	12/27/07 	72,349
Super Robot Taisen OG Gaiden
16 	PS2 	BANPRESTO 	12/27/07 	70,524
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008: UE
17 	PSP 	KONAMI 		1/24/08 	70,313
Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon 2 (combined)
18 	DS 	Pokemon 	9/13/07 	66,927
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008
19 	PS2 	KONAMI 		11/22/07 	66,710
Power Pro-kun Pocket 10
20 	DS 	KONAMI 		12/6/07 	64,526
Lucky Star: Ryo-ou Gakuen Outo-sai
21 	PS2 	KADOKAWA SHOTEN 1/24/08 	61,448
Animal Crossing: Wild World
22 	DS 	Nintendo 	11/23/05 	58,473
Naruto: Shippu-den Narutimate Accel 2
23 	PS2 	NAMCO BANDAI  	12/20/07 	55,918
Professor Layton and the Curious Village
24 	DS 	LEVEL-5 	2/15/07 	55,653
250-man-nin no KanKen Shin Tokoton Kanji-nou 47,000
25 	DS 	IE Institute 	11/1/07 	50,379
Ryu ga Gotoku 2 [PlayStation 2 the Best] Yakuza 2
26 	PS2 	SEGA 		12/6/07 	46,257
Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day
27 	DS 	Nintendo 	12/29/05 	46,222
Minna no Golf Portable 2
28 	PSP 	SCEJ (SONY) 	12/6/07 	45,021
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
29 	PS3 	ACTIVISION 	12/27/07 	44,539
Ryusei no Rockman 2 (combined)
30 	DS 	CAPCOM 		11/22/07 	43,160
Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day
31 	DS 	Nintendo 	5/31/07 	42,468
Ganbaru Watashi no Kakei Diary
32 	DS 	Nintendo 	7/12/07 	40,547
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
33 	Wii 	CAPCOM 		11/15/07 	37,808
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Blu-ray Disc Version
34 	PS3 	SCEJ (SONY) 	12/13/07 	37,706
Pocket Monster Diamond/Pearl
35 	DS 	Pokemon 	9/28/06 	37,364
Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes
36 	PS2 	CAPCOM 		11/29/07 	33,463
Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Touch de Dokodon!
37 	DS 	NAMCO BANDAI 	7/26/07 	32,863
Tales of Innocence
38 	DS 	NAMCO BANDAI 	12/6/07 	32,298
Nep League DS
39 	DS 	JALECO 		12/6/07 	31,670
KanKen DS 2 + Joyo-Kanji Jiten
40 	DS 	Rocket Company 	9/27/07 	31,401
DS Bungaku Zenshu
41 	DS 	Nintendo 	10/18/07 	30,735
Yusha no Kuse ni Namaiki da.
42 	PSP 	SCEJ (SONY) 	12/6/07 	30,727
Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day
43 	DS 	Nintendo 	5/19/05 	30,194
Kosoku Card Battle Card Hero
44 	DS 	Nintendo 	12/20/07 	29,416
Jikkyo Powerful Pro Yakyu 14 Ketteiban
45 	PS2 	KONAMI 		12/20/07 	27,846
Mario Strikers Charged
46 	Wii 	Nintendo 	9/20/07 	27,651
Kodai Ouja KyoryuKing: 7-tsu no Kakera Dinosaur King
47 	DS 	SEGA 		11/22/07 	26,740
Dorabase: Dramatic Stadium
48 	DS 	NAMCO BANDAI 	12/20/07 	26,481

Yeah, I know it ends at #48, I think it has to do with Rockman 2 and Pokemon MD2 since they are combining 2 SKUs in them.

I'll do some cumulative totals now (and update this post in the process I suppose).

EDIT1: (thanks to dabra) It seems they deleted Mario & Sonic Wii for some unknown reason (sold 124,711) and I suppose another title was also deleted from the top (DS Literature Collection?)

EDIT2: A few titles with updated LTDs:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9814207&postcount=335
 
D

dabra

Member
E

ethelred

Member
So through the end of January, Tales of Innocence is at 210,697, Super Robot Wars OG Gaiden is at 269,063, and Star Ocean: First Departure is at 187,629. Not too shabby all around, honestly.
 
K

Kurosaki Ichigo

Member
Just a few titles needed totals since most of them appeared on the latest Top30 from January with their totals fully updated here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9666194&postcount=325
No need to update the top50 then.

But some titles that went under the radar had still some sales. Here we go, LTDs:

PSP Star Ocean: The First Departure (187,629)
PS2 Super Robot Taisen OG Gaiden (269,063)
PS2 Naruto: Shippu-den Narutimate Accel 2 (180,514)
NDS Ryusei no Rockman 2 (combined) (268,381)
WII Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (250,225)
PS3 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Blu-ray Disc Version (196,082)
PS2 Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes (210,025)
NDS Tales of Innocence 210,697)
NDS Nep League DS (92,833)
PSP Yusha no Kuse ni Namaiki da. (96,934)
NDS Kosoku Card Battle Card Hero (97,432)
PS2 Jikkyo Powerful Pro Yakyu 14 Ketteiban (84,035)
 
S

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
I'm a tad disappointed in Card Hero. I was expecting the standard Nintendo B-level sales of 120k-150k. I'm sure it'll squeak that out over the next little while, but my expectation was that it'd squeak 200k after having settled around 120-150k.

Very happy that Star Force 2 bombed compared with Star Force. Capcom needs to give Mega Man a break, and the place to start would be fewer sub-par spinoffs. Plus, the multi-SKU strategy needs to be repudiated as much as possible and Capcom's one of the worst offenders.
 
N

nli10

Member
Vinnk said:
stuff.
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I bought some Tarepanda stuff over the weekend as gifts. I blame you :D



Looking at the month charts it's amazing that the resudual drag up of certain titles is still in effect. All that promotion and sales making Prof Layton 2 in the top 10 have resulted in great extra sales for the original title. I can well see all three games in the trilogy hitting the monthly charts at the same time.
 
V

Vinnk

Member
nli10 said:
Looking at the month charts it's amazing that the resudual drag up of certain titles is still in effect. All that promotion and sales making Prof Layton 2 in the top 10 have resulted in great extra sales for the original title. I can well see all three games in the trilogy hitting the monthly charts at the same time.
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Just think if the first game got a "best hits" type re-release right before Layton 3. Sales would be amazing. Of course it won't happen, it is still selling plenty well in its original price point.
 
L

Lightning

Banned
HK-47 said:
Or maybe it means 360 is gonna get some belts n zippers =P
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lol. It's just a fansite idea but I thought it was good for a laugh.

Would be a good idea to push a new IP though but I am certain that Square will just use the PSN for the demo whenever it hits, if it ever hits.
 
D

donny2112

Member
Stumpokapow said:
Very happy that Star Force 2 bombed compared with Star Force. Capcom needs to give Mega Man a break, and the place to start would be fewer sub-par spinoffs. Plus, the multi-SKU strategy needs to be repudiated as much as possible and Capcom's one of the worst offenders.
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Star Force after 9 weeks: 374K (125K per SKU)
Star Force 2 after 9 weeks: 268K (134K per SKU)

Based on this data, they need to come out with Star Force 3 this December and go back to three SKUs to get more easy money.
 
S

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
donny2112 said:
Star Force after 9 weeks: 374K (125K per SKU)
Star Force 2 after 9 weeks: 268K (134K per SKU)

Based on this data, they need to come out with Star Force 3 this December and go back to three SKUs to get more easy money.
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Grumble. Hadn't considered the fact that per SKU sales might end up being higher. Rats.
 
H

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
Lightning said:
lol. It's just a fansite idea but I thought it was good for a laugh.

Would be a good idea to push a new IP though but I am certain that Square will just use the PSN for the demo whenever it hits, if it ever hits.
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I'd push SO4 if it ends up PS3 only
 
M

Mithos Yggdrasill

Banned
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Just a few titles needed totals since most of them appeared on the latest Top30 from January with their totals fully updated here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9666194&postcount=325
No need to update the top50 then.

But some titles that went under the radar had still some sales. Here we go, LTDs:

PSP Star Ocean: The First Departure (187,629)
PS2 Super Robot Taisen OG Gaiden (269,063)
PS2 Naruto: Shippu-den Narutimate Accel 2 (180,514)
NDS Ryusei no Rockman 2 (combined) (268,381)
WII Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (250,225)
PS3 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Blu-ray Disc Version (196,082)
PS2 Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes (210,025)
NDS Tales of Innocence 210,697)
NDS Nep League DS (92,833)
PSP Yusha no Kuse ni Namaiki da. (96,934)
NDS Kosoku Card Battle Card Hero (97,432)
PS2 Jikkyo Powerful Pro Yakyu 14 Ketteiban (84,035)
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Nice success for Star Ocean and nice failure for GT5P.
 
B

Busaiku

Member
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Nice success for Star Ocean and nice failure for GT5P.
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GT5P isn't doing that bad.
Sony's expectations were only 60k more for the disc (unless that was just 1st week).
 
f@luS

f@luS

More than a member.
200K for GT5P disc only , in japan is everything but a failure. I would even call it a success. It means 300K imho for japan only. Easily million seller, maybe much more for this , is quite big.
 
P

Pai Pai Master

Banned
Indeed, what the hell? 200k for disc sales are good. With Warhawk, PSN sales were far higher than disc sales, so I'm curious to see what the ratio is like for GT5P. The game will be a huge hit in Europe for sure, and will probably see healthy sales in NA. If it gets even close a million worldwide in disc sales only, that's a pretty huge success IMO.
 
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