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[Sir_Crocodile]

Very happy that Zelda seems to have completely sold out - hopefully this will affirm to nintendo that this is the way forward. Bit annoying that it didn't get a larger shipment though, hard to say what the full sales potential is now given some people will go ddl rather then wait till next week.

Did they combine Vita and Vita TV numbers?

Maybe vita tv sold 0 this week

 

[qq more]

Greatest sales (opening week):

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 386,234
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - 320,940
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 314,044
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 288,282
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 287,346
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds - 225,418
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 194,894
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages - 191,802
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons - 190,029
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 182,998
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 145,068
The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap - 92,882
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - 49,513
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords - 54,782
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - 31,154


Chronologically:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 1,147,068
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - 314,224
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 601,539
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages - 373,361
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons - 372,693
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 742,609
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords - 127,399
The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap - 235,400
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 554,109
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 902,386
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - 740,109
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 600,839
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 346,802
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - 41,102
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds - 225,418

Interesting, it outsold every other handheld Zeldas at launch except for the DS games and I would assume it's because of the insane popularity of the DS.

Thanks!

 

[DarkLordMalik]

So how does this Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remaster compares to other Final Fantasy remakes/re-releases?

 

[Aaron Strife]

Still weird that Final Fantasy IV for DS was considered disappointing for them.

Much cheaper, still sold better.

Yet they'll sooner make another 13 game than another 3D remake.

 

[Aquamarine]

Did they combine Vita and Vita TV numbers?

Yes.

Vita: ~69,607
Vita TV: ~5,600

Famitsu Vita figure: 75,207

 

[Dysun]

Nice to see FFX do well. Keep those remasters coming S-E

 

[cyberheater]

Didn't WiiU need to sell at least 200k in Dec to signal a real turn around?

 

[Dash Kappei]

Greatest sales (opening week):

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 386,234
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - 320,940
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 314,044
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 288,282
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 287,346
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds - 225,418
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 194,894
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages - 191,802
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons - 190,029
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 182,998
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 145,068
The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap - 92,882
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - 49,513
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords - 54,782
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - 31,154


Chronologically (opening week):

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 386,234
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - 49,513
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 314,044
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages - 191,802
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons - 190,029
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 287,346
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords - 54,782
The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap - 92,882
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 145,068
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 288,282
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - 320,940
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 182,998
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 194,894
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - 31,154
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds - 225,418

What about LTTP:4S [GBA]? FW/LTD?
Minish Cap had a terrible FW, I wonder where it ended up tho

 

[yaesir]

Even if we ignore the standalone Vita copies of FFX and FFX-2, it seems it beat out Lightning Returns.

Famitsu:
LR: 301,181
FFX/X-2 Combo Packs: 317,283

Well, i guess Square Enix is going to make a lot more remakes in the future.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Didn't WiiU need to sell at least 200k in Dec to signal a real turn around?

No not really. It needs to sell well throughout the year. Having high holiday numbers is great but meaningless if the system sells 10-15k a week for the rest of the year.

 

[Rand6]

So, the remaster did well, right? Now we can ask SE for FFXII Zodiac jod system HD remaster so we can get it in 2015.

More like 2016, in Japan.

 

[Nirolak]

Greatest sales (opening week):

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 386,234
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - 320,940
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 314,044
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 288,282
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 287,346
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds - 225,418
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 194,894
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages - 191,802
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons - 190,029
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 182,998
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 145,068
The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap - 92,882
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - 49,513
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords - 54,782
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - 31,154

Here I feel Zelda continues its relatively ho-hum position in the market.

These aren't bad sales, and I'm pretty convinced they're retaining their core audience, but they're not seeming to attract anyone new to the series, and are losing a lot of the people they picked up during the DS era despite some 3DS franchises around that size having gone up a bit.

Or, in other words, it seems to be suffering from Metal Gear syndrome.

Edit: Apparently it's sold out, which makes it harder to judge anything by.

Edit 2: Looking at the LTDs I cede my whole point. It fluctuates wildly per entry and the spin-offs are some of the most successful, suggesting that the game's fate relies pretty heavily on how much the casual fanbase takes on to it. See below.

 

[Nirolak]

What about LTTP:4S [GBA]? FW/LTD?
Minish Cap had a terrible FW, I wonder where it ended up tho

235,400 for Minish Cap LTD.

 

[Magicpaint]

Good Zelda and FFX/X-2 numbers. Crazy how Gung-Ho have hit their target sales for P&D Z so quickly. Luigi's Mansion 2 will hit 1m soon too!

What about LTTP:4S [GBA]? FW/LTD?
Minish Cap had a terrible FW, I wonder where it ended up tho

Minish Cap sold poorly. Its LTD was barely above what ALBW has done first week (235k).

 

[Ghost Slayer]

More like 2016, in Japan.

oh, i forgot how long for SE do a remaster

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Here I feel Zelda continues its relatively ho-hum position in the market.

These aren't bad sales, but they're not seeming to attract anyone new to the series, and are losing a lot of the people they seemed to pick up during the DS era despite some 3DS franchises around that size having gone up a bit.

Or, in other words, it seems to be suffering from Metal Gear syndrome.

Stagnating?

oh, i forgot how long for SE do a remaster

KH 2.5 depending when it comes out will be out within a year to 1.5 years.

 

[lwilliams3]

Here I feel Zelda continues its relatively ho-hum position in the market.

These aren't bad sales, but they're not seeming to attract anyone new to the series, and are losing a lot of the people they seemed to pick up during the DS era despite some 3DS franchises around that size having gone up a bit.

Or, in other words, it seems to be suffering from Metal Gear syndrome.

The problem with making that conclusion at this time is that the game was undershipped. It appears to be doing better than Nintendo expected.

 

[zhao3gold]

Yuna is more popular than Lightening. Oh Yeah~!! This world is saved~~~~!! So happy~~~~

 

[cw_sasuke]

Here I feel Zelda continues its relatively ho-hum position in the market.

These aren't bad sales, but they're not seeming to attract anyone new to the series, and are losing a lot of the people they seemed to pick up during the DS era despite some 3DS franchises around that size having gone up a bit.

Or, in other words, it seems to be suffering from Metal Gear syndrome.

Isnt it too soon for such a statement ? I mean they pretty much sold every copy which retailers ordered and its been sold out for days according to some J-Gaffers/Amazon. I dont even know how you would measure if its attracts new gamers or not, im pretty sure it`ll be the first 2D zelda for many gamers.

 

[The_lascar]

Blue: first week
Red: other weeks

 

[Nirolak]

The problem with making that conclusion at this time is that the game was undershipped. It appears to be doing better than Nintendo expected.

Isnt it too soon for such a statement ? I mean they pretty much sold every copy which retailers ordered and its been sold out for days according to some J-Gaffers/Amazon. I dont even know how you would measure if its attracts new gamers or not, im pretty sure it`ll be the first 2D zelda for many gamers.

Fair, it is in the 80-100% band.

I didn't follow the tail end of the last thread to see if it was sold out.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Week 1 will probably see Luigi's Mansion2 hit a million, another buckle on 3DS's belt. I've liked the game enough to think it deserve it.
How many million sellers are there yet in the platform, is it possible to compare it launch aligned with the NDS?

235,400 for Minish Cap LTD.

Ouch. Do you have data on LTTP [GBA]? It's entirely missing from that chart and I somehow doubt it could've sold less then TWW:HD

 

[mutsu]

Does anyone how much money GungHo is making with the 3DS version of Puzzle Dragon in comparison to the mobile version?

 

[funkystudent]

oh, i forgot how long for SE do a remaster

Well they did announce KH2 HD pretty soon after KH1 HD was out

Maybe they have been working on XII HD and it will be announced sooner rather than later.


Please.

 

[Busaiku]

The problem with making that conclusion at this time is that the game was undershipped. It appears to be doing better than Nintendo expected.

It's too early to call either way.
The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time 3D had high sellthrough as well.

They just don't want another Spirit Tracks situation on their hands though.

 

[JoeM86]

Here I feel Zelda continues its relatively ho-hum position in the market.

These aren't bad sales, and I'm pretty convinced they're retaining their core audience, but they're not seeming to attract anyone new to the series, and are losing a lot of the people they picked up during the DS era despite some 3DS franchises around that size having gone up a bit.

Or, in other words, it seems to be suffering from Metal Gear syndrome.

I wouldn't go that far.

Zelda has always been a franchise that is far bigger in the west than in Japan.

 

[Cutebrute]

Very happy that Zelda seems to have completely sold out - hopefully this will affirm to nintendo that this is the way forward. Bit annoying that it didn't get a larger shipment though, hard to say what the full sales potential is now given some people will go ddl rather then wait till next week.

The Zelda has been seeing a decline in popularity over in Japan, so Nintendo probably had conservative estimates for the game. I'm glad to see it do well and I hope it maintains strong legs.

 

[AniHawk]

Well, i guess Square Enix is going to make a lot more remakes in the future.

how about a remake of final fantasy xiii for its fifth anniversary.

 

[kubricks]

So the FFX/X-2 outsold Lightning Returns!!! It's happening! LOL!
And Great numbers for Vita!

 

[Nirolak]

I wouldn't go that far.

Zelda has always been a franchise that is far bigger in the west than in Japan.

I'm not speaking about their Western sales.

Those are vastly higher and fluctuate wildly for sure.

 

[mrjohill]

I hope the ffx sales on vita change square enix's stance on the system but I doubt it

 

[Dash Kappei]

Does anyone how much money GungHo is making with the 3DS version of Puzzle Dragon in comparison to the mobile version?

A gazillion dollars less?

how about a remake of final fantasy xiii for its fifth anniversary.

FFXIII: HD

Spoiler

Towns

Remaster

 

[Kagari]

What is LR LTD?

 

[Busaiku]

What is LR LTD?

Got to 386k before dropping off the numbers.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Didn't WiiU need to sell at least 200k in Dec to signal a real turn around?

It sold over 200k in December unless you are talking about weekly.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

What is LR LTD?

FFX will outsell it. Justice!

LR: 386k

FFX: 339k

 

[Busaiku]

A gazillion dollars less?

Doesn't this game have microtransactions too?

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Well they did announce KH2 HD pretty soon after KH1 HD was out

Maybe they have been working on XII HD and it will be announced sooner rather than later.


Please.

i just jk
but it is weird, KH 1.5 is finished by only 2 people in Osaka team and they do it very quick. FFX/X-2 takes 2 years for HD remaster and i think they have a small team > 2 people for doing it. I hope this time (if) we can get FFXII remaster soon

 

[Nirolak]

All right, so duckroll argued to me that it would make a lot more sense to dump out LTDs for the games as well, and suggested it fluctuated wildly enough that it was casual base driven over core base driven, so I'll add them to what Aquamarine made:

First Week Sorted:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 386,234 / 1,143,570
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - 320,940 / 725,904
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 314,044 / 601,542
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 288,282 / 902,386
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 287,346 / 742,609
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds - 225,418 / TBD
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 194,894 / 297,441
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages - 191,802 / (Can't Find)
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons - 190,029 / (Can't Find)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 182,998 / 498,145
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 145,068 / 552,476
The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap - 92,882 / 235,400
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords - 54,782 / 293,989 (I think?)
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - 49,513
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - 31,154

LTD Sorted:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 386,234 / 1,143,570
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 288,282 / 902,386
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 287,346 / 742,609
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - 320,940 / 725,904
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 314,044 / 601,542
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 182,998 / ~601k
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 145,068 / 552,476
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 194,894 / 297,441
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords - 54,782 / 293,989 (I think?)
The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap - 92,882 / 235,400
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - 49,513

The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages - 191,802 / (Can't Find)
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons - 190,029 / (Can't Find)

The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds - 225,418 / TBD

 

[Busaiku]

It's important to note that Spirit Tracks hit the bomba bin in week 1.

 

[PshycoNinja]

What is LR LTD?

Last I checked it's still under 500K. Abysmal for any other FF game. Type-0 did much better even in its first week in Japan yet SE is rushing to get LR localized while they sit on their hands with FFXV and Type-0.

When an HD remaster is outselling your newest FF you have to take the hint. Japanese fans are sending a message. Now let's see if NA and EU fans can send the same message when those games arrive.

 

[mutsu]

A gazillion dollars less?

What I want to know is how the business model of pay up front vs free to play compares. I think this may be one of the first games that is doing very well on both platforms.

 

[Gaiaknight]

dem mario legs! I really do wish the best for 3d world as the game was fantastic.

 

[Glass Joe]

Didn't WiiU need to sell at least 200k in Dec to signal a real turn around?

I'm not sure who offered that figure as a metric for success, but are you saying the Wii U is having a real turn around? It sold over 311k in Japan in December.

 

[Kagari]

FFX will outsell it. Justice!

LR: 386k

FFX: 339k

Thank god.

 

[Busaiku]

What I want to know is how the business model of pay up front vs free to play compares. I think this may be one of the first games that is doing very well on both platforms.

Angry Birds did well.
Though Star Wars didn't.

 

[BriBri]

Did Wind Waker HD figures affect shipments for ALBW or no correlation?

 

[cyberheater]

It sold over 200k in December unless you are talking about weekly.

Okay. That signals a turnaround. We'll see if they can continue the momentum.

 

[Nirolak]

Did Wind Waker HD figures affect shipments for ALBW or no correlation?

I'd be kind of surprised since one is on the most successful platform and one is on the least right now.

If anything, I'd expect Spirit Tracks to be the biggest impact since retailers got burned on that.

 

[CrimsonCrescendo]

Thank god.

There are several different messages they could glean from this, Kagari. And many of them are not good. Then again, LR selling more could send them several messages as well. Honestly, I'm looking at this as a lose-lose since SE learning anything of value is too much to hope for. Honestly, I'm so mixed on the XIII series as a whole that I'm not even sure what message I want them to get.