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[ElTorro]

Never forget.

Performance: I’m not dismissing raw performance. I’m stating – as I have stated from the beginning – that the performance delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are things about our system architecture not fully understood, and there are things about theirs as well, that bring the two systems into balance.

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard API’s that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think we don’t know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way we’re giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony claims more power, they did it with Cell, they did it with Emotion Engine, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, games on our system looked the same or better.

I’m not saying they haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ power advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…

 

[Qassim]

I don't think I would have considered getting it on XBOne anyway, but hearing praise of the image quality and performance for the PS4 version is encouraging.

 

[iMax]

VGfacts and spriters-resource.com are PlayStation only sites/mags?
News to me! Thanks.....

Obviously talking about the first dude, but never mind.

 

[nampad]

Expected nothing else after even Kojima said they will perform 'slightly' different. The performance gap was obvious from the day on we saw the specs.

Don't worry, misterxmedia probably has an explaination.

Kojima is a Playstation fanboy and made the Xbox version bad on purpose. He is also cboat, that's why his posts are in broken English.

 

[rouken]

you just know that people will get back for those times last gen about multiplatform differences between ps3 and 360

 

[shinra-bansho]

Never forget.

I just noticed he's back again doing PR on here after a couple months hiatus, and generally ignoring that meltdown and what we now know.

 

[Acquiescence]

Never forget.

It's little wonder we don't see him posting here anymore.

I just noticed he's back again doing PR on here after a couple months hiatus.

Really? Spoke too soon.

 

[komplanen]

I've never cared about MGS, but this doesn't bode well for future multiplatform games when I will have to settle for the lesser graphical version. Fuck.

And yeah, graphics don't matter to me as much as the Microsoft ecosystem, LIVE, Windows, Windows Phone, etc, but I wish I could get that along with the best graphical fidelity.

Maybe consider buying a PS4 down the line for multi-platform games and keep your Xbone for the exclusives. I know it's an extra $400 but I'd say it's worth it. Or just sell your Xbone since I'm sure you have picked up the clues along the way that this shit isn't exactly going away.

 

[liger05]

I have this pre-ordered but honestly am worried about the amount of content in the game.

 

[stryke]

Why are these threads still a thing?

Consoles are out - platform disparities exist.

Get over it.

I'd rather people get over thread whining.

 

[geordiemp]

Never forget.

Don't think he ever will. Saw him on the xbox headphones thread, I was really wanting to say something cheeky like do they have 30 % more 5.1 sound, but I bit my lip. It was really hard.

I would like to think he would be a sport and come on a GAF thread and rationalise / maybe even say he got a few things wrong - I would respect him allot for that and it would be good fun. If done right he could eat little bit of crow but gain some respect.

 

[keuja]

Completed in 2 hours only... This doesn't bode well at all.
I don't give a shit about collectibles, audio logs and high scoring missions. It's like they are trying to do a bad copy of Assassin Creed. (MGS copying AC... What has the world become...)

 

[Hitokiri03]

Never forget.

This and that Shahid tweet will be a common thing in these types of thread.

 

[gruenel]

Already posted?

“It’s also excellent for graphics, being able to render 1080p at 60fps with room to spare. Since it does it a little better than other hardware, the image quality of the PS4 is the most beautiful. It’s the closest to the photorealistic quality we are aiming at.”

http://www.vg247.com/2014/02/13/hid...can-render-1080p-at-60fps-with-room-to-spare/

 

[Hydrargyrus]

Never forget.

Yup, he was right... because it's not 30%, it's more about 50%.

The problem is ours, because we could not understand what he was trying to tell us

 

[Amir0x]

Never forget.

Who is to say this is a 30% difference? Always jumping on the poor MS people, tsc tsc...

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Karma for the 360/PS3 years.

This is a gaming forum not a child's playground

 

[OriginalThinking]

This is a gaming forum not a child's playground

Unfortunately, at times it's both.

 

[Bishop89]

Surprise, surprise. THis was pretty obvious after Kojimas announcement of the difference between PS4 and Xbone. 1080p60fps for a MGS is amazing.

source? Unless you mean that tweet/quote from him that says its 'slightly better'

 

[Putty]

Expected nothing else after even Kojima said they will perform 'slightly' different. The performance gap was obvious from the day on we saw the specs.



Kojima is a Playstation fanboy and made the Xbox version bad on purpose. He is also cboat, that's why his posts are in broken English.

The new one is The Order runs at 800p, which is only just above TF. They're still waiting for the stereo drivers to land which unlocks the 2nd layer etc etc...

 

[ElTorro]

Yup, he was right... because it's not 30%, it's more about 50%.

The problem is ours, because we could not understand what he was trying to tell us

A Definitive Edition in his honor.

 

[Jack cw]

source? Unless you mean that tweet/quote from him that says its 'slightly better'

This and the promised video showing the differences.
Also this.

EDIT: Haha, that gif. It gets me everytime.

 

[inopedes]

This is a gaming forum not a child's playground

One and the same.

 

[godhandiscen]

Maybe consider buying a PS4 down the line for multi-platform games and keep your Xbone for the exclusives. I know it's an extra $400 but I'd say it's worth it. Or just sell your Xbone since I'm sure you have picked up the clues along the way that this shit isn't exactly going away.

Nahh, I like my friends on Xbox Live. Money isn't an issue. I just see myself using my PC a bit this Gen for plenty of multiplatforms.

 

[Chobel]

I just noticed he's back again doing PR on here after a couple months hiatus, and generally ignoring that meltdown and what we now know.

Shit! how did I miss that?

A Definitive Edition in his honor.

LOL!

 

[Infinite Xero]

http://www.vg247.com/2014/02/13/hid...can-render-1080p-at-60fps-with-room-to-spare/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh1BjY-V1Ic#t=0

So MGS:GZ is 60fps on PS4?

 

[Bishop89]

This and that Shahid tweet will be a common thing in these types of thread.

whats the shahid tweet?

 

[ElTorro]

whats the shahid tweet?

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[jimbobsmells]

Kojima is a Playstation fanboy and made the Xbox version bad on purpose. He is also cboat, that's why his posts are in broken English.

lol I can totally see him saying that too.

 

[Jack cw]

So MGS:GZ is 60fps on PS4?

It appears so. I wouldnt count on locked 60fps though. Might be the same case as TR Definitive Edition so an average framerate around 50fps, otherwise Kojima cares for tech, so this has a chance of being locked.

 

[matrix-cat]

So MGS:GZ is 60fps on PS4?

It was supposed to be 1080p/60 on both next-gen consoles, last time we heard. I suppose they've had to change their plans.

Nice to hear that it's 60 'with room to spare' on PS4, though. Hopefully that means a rock-solid 60 all day long, rather than the typical 55ish that most '60FPS' games actually run at on consoles.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Always feel like the big Japanese games are home to playstation anyway, but good news for ppl with only ps4 I guess. I'm more saddened it looks like stuff with the controller and references to ps classics might not be in the games anymore. Always felt more than any other title, even final fantasy and dmc that metal gear had a special connection with playststion fans, hopefully Kojima doesn't lose the sauce lol

 

[MadJackChurchill]

What exactly are you expecting from Microsoft in this situation?

Make good, original games instead of GoW 4 and Halo 5?

 

[Castef]

Not surprising, but so much for the slight differences...

A Hideo Kojima game running better on a Sony machine?

 

[Omnistalgic]

Make good, original games instead of GoW 4 and Halo 5?

To be fair, it's smart to just innovate in established ip, sony could do it a bit better actually I made a thread about it even...

 

[ps3ud0]

It's little wonder we don't see him posting here anymore.

Hes back - was in the XO adapter thread. Promptly disappeared though...

EDIT: Damn beaten badly...

ps3ud0 8)

 

[OriginalThinking]

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

He was likely referring to indie games as that's his responsibility.

 

[darkwing]

better graphics on a more powerful hardware, who would have thought

 

[Amir0x]

A Hideo Kojima game running better on a Sony machine?

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here. That Hideo Kojima somehow, like, sabotaged the game on XBO so that his Sony bros could have the best version? That it's not somehow related to the massive gap in the technology between PS4 and XBO?

 

[Acosta]

A Definitive Edition in his honor.

I'm dying, make it stop...

 

[Persona7]

Make good, original games instead of GoW 4 and Halo 5?

I was talking about the hardware specs situation.

He was likely referring to indie games as that's his responsibility.

That second tweet doesn't seem to follow that logic.

 

[komplanen]

Hes back - was in the XO adapter thread. Promptly disappeared though...

ps3ud0 8)

The forum doesn't support signatures so you decided to manually add your own? Cute.

 

[Castef]

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here. That Hideo Kojima somehow, like, sabotaged the game on XBO so that his Sony bros could have the best version? That it's not somehow related to the massive gap in the technology between PS4 and XBO?

Have you ever seen MGS2 on a Xbox?

 

[HORRORSHØW]

He was likely referring to indie games as that's his responsibility.

sadly, it'll always be taken out of context and brought up if/when ps4 games aren't 60fps.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

Yeah, that's a playstation magazine writer saying that, trying to get hits for the new issue featuring some game or other.

 

[Chobel]

A Hideo Kojima game running better on a Sony machine?

Taking "lazy devs" argument to the extreme, are you? Now kojima intentionally made xbone version looks worse? ... smh

 

[1979]

This is probably sarcasm, but in case anyone missed it from the other thread...

Probably more of a damning indication of how terrible most commercial reviewers are at videogames more than anything.

 

[Amir0x]

Have you ever seen MGS2 on a Xbox?

What does that have to do with anything? MGS2 was specifically built with the strengths of PS2's very complex and awkward technology in mind, it was an exclusive for years. They found it difficult to adapt the engine's PS2 quirks to the Xbox with parity.

That has nothing to do with this situation. Again, are you implying Hideo Kojima specifically neutered the Xbox One version so PS4 could have the best version? Are you denying the PS4's gargantuan technical advantage as the core factor for this tech disparity?

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Right, again, who pissed off Kojima at Microsoft?

 

[Castef]

This is probably sarcasm, but in case anyone missed it from the other thread...

Simply, they forgot to adjust the % counter. It remained set as when GZ was actually the first level in MGSV.

Mistery solved!