I just hope they don't take it too personally when people speculate.
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Michael Knowland (Lead Character Artist) leaves Naughty Dog
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I just hope they don't take it too personally when people speculate.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Can't forget about the janitors and landscapers.
I think we have so many overreactions..........again.
I mentioned this before. It's part of the business.
I agree. *claps*
Nightengale
Member
251 as of today. (according to LinkedIn)
20 available jobs/positions as of April. ( according to the website)
Mountain meet molehill.
Yes, let's close a 250+ studio, because 4 or 5 people were leaving....
Amazing!
Internet memory is short.
Last year Naughty Dog hired a shit ton of talent and every post here was like: "OMG what is going on at ND, they most be working on a new Space MMO God Tier Epic Super Saga".
Now that the new are trained, the old are flowing out, it's just a rotation of people which happens all the time in every industry ever.
We can calm down now.
Last year Naughty Dog hired a shit ton of talent and every post here was like: "OMG what is going on at ND, they most be working on a new Space MMO God Tier Epic Super Saga".
Now that the new are trained, the old are flowing out, it's just a rotation of people which happens all the time in every industry ever.
We can calm down now.
SSM lost Stig who at the time was off of GoW. They culled an entire project and all employees they couldn't reintegrate. Stig seemingly left on his own accords after not no leading role was open.
InFamousSS lead left because he finished what he was hired in to do. Nothing surprising here.
TLG... you talking about Ueda? Because he freelances to complete the project. But most of the his work had been done. It's just his guiding hand, while he pursues other projects.
Did you not read that I said I was ignorant about the situation and how I asked how many employees the studio have? Quit it, you're making yourself look bad.
Cyber Caesar
Member
So much talent leaving. Who farted?
Nightengale
Member
This.
10 years ago, Neil Druckmann was just an intern/programmer. 7 years ago he became a game designer. 5 years ago, a lead designer.
In terms of recognition and industry star power, Neil is leaps and above where he was 5 years ago, even when he was one of the leads responsible for the most critically beloved Uncharted.
I know *why* it looks that way. It's just never struck me as so, well, stickynotey before.
Schweinehund
Member
Artists usually get laid off.
People like Amy Hennig, designers, developers, programmers usually don't.
Lead positions might be the exception for artists.
velociraptor
Junior Member
I've said it before and I'll say it again - SCEWWS is clearly fucked. We have a mass exodus of top talent and there are no PS4 games to show for it. Obviously as a gaming fan and consumer this worries me especially since I have invested in one of Sony's consoles on the promise that it would be gaming machine first and foremost. However, how the hell can this happen when all the top talent and major players have all departed, including Jack Tretton? You would have thought they would have done everything to actually retain someone like Tretton who has done everything right for SCEA.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
They need an old lady Walmart greeter. Then ND's rep will be saved.
Mass? If only you and others had the common sense to see how the turnover rate is at these places.
Kenshin001
Member
Or what happened was Amy Hennig, director/co director on all Uncharteds, left in less than amicable circumstances and a bunch of key people soon followed.
Or what happened was Amy Hennig, director/co director on all Uncharteds, left in less than amicable circumstances and a bunch of key people soon followed.
Yeah, let's go with wild sensationalist speculation instead....
LordBaztion
Member
Is he heading to viceral too?
~Mass exodus~ and ~all the top talent left~? So all the ~2000 people at the SCEWWS left? Tell us more, please!
You better start selling your Sony consoles, because they are ~clearly fucked~
/sarcasm
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Or what happened was Amy Hennig, director/co director on all Uncharteds, left in less than amicable circumstances and a bunch of key people soon followed.
Your logic is flawed. You were equally wrong about Shu.
And to be clear, you have no idea how the industry works if you come with hyperbole like that.
dragonbane
Member
It's not unusual to see Senior staff leaving, especially after big projects, but Leads? And 4 of them in a short while? That's definitely not normal at all.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Lol. We should create a thread for every hire they make as well.
Best wishes to him.
Best wishes to him.
MDSLKTR
Member
Do you write for kotaku?
Or what happened was Amy Hennig, director/co director on all Uncharteds, left in less than amicable circumstances and a bunch of key people soon followed.
This better be a joke post or you need to correct your completely erroneous claims and learn what an investment is.
Hmmmmmm.....
Nightengale
Member
But if Amy Hennig was the trigger that caused these departures, then realistically, the ones departing would had been core members of 'Team Uncharted.'
I have no issue making the assumption that Justin Richmond's departure might had been because of Amy, but Nate and Knowland, who were leads in Druckmann's team, with little to no input/influence on Uncharted at all?
If it was Josh Scherr or Kurt Margenau who left? Then I would be really fucking worried.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I think you should relax, because some of them are really just joking around. The discussion and speculation of the departures have really touched a raw nerve to some of you
Kenshin001
Member
Please explain how the logic is flawed. Just saying you are wrong, you dumb dumb, doesn't exactly cement your point.
TheBioLover
Member
Please tell me this is a joke post.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm drinking coffee in the morning, I have little patience for sarcasms and obvious troll remarks. I agree with you but those kinds of comments temper the conversation off point and are why they are so annoying.
It feels like a playground in here sometimes and until mods start holding people accountable for inflammatory remarks then the thread grows and we have hyperbole filled arm chair remarks which had no ground to stand on other than wanting to be quoted for attention.
Perhaps logic was not the best word but after having seen you in the Shu thread and seeing your post here, you have little to stand on other than sensationalist speculation. If you can get by with that mentality then I will point it out again.
We either have a more grounded analysis of this or we have the deep end remarks which have come up in this thread. Your post included. It gets more annoying to read since no one here really understands what goes on but we can at least relate when it comes to our own work environments and how we all want to advance and ultimately earn more money. That's as plain and simple as I can get. If you want to go and rationalize that in other ways then I'm more than glad to rebut your statement.
Begaria
Member
That is the crux of the matter in regard to what has been happening at Naughty Dog.
boredandlazy
Member
I'll take your pic, and raise you a:
Or what happened was Amy Hennig, director/co director on all Uncharteds, left in less than amicable circumstances and a bunch of key people soon followed.
Could just be coincidental timing of people leaving for new territory (normal), but it does have the strange feel of "bail out".
Of course I think they'll be fine, but my gut tells me perhaps the way Amy was dismissed didn't sit well with some people, or the new power structure isn't as appealing as it used to be.
Conjecture!
Of course I think they'll be fine, but my gut tells me perhaps the way Amy was dismissed didn't sit well with some people, or the new power structure isn't as appealing as it used to be.
Conjecture!
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
And the following question: Can ND continue to be a top developer, now that some "senior" talent has left and they're bringing in fresh blood, or their output will be affected?
But these threads never go anywhere. A bunch of people overreacting, others making up some wild narrative...at least it's entertaining.